I don’t know about great playcaller. But drastically better than the crap Siri was doing. It was flat out dumb. So bad l…fans thought Rosie was forcing him to do this bad playcalling.

That’s the thing. How brilliant an offensive mind do we possess with the coaching? Oline coach is a stud. He’s the run game coach also. Which was great. Our O isn’t so overwhelmingly talented to be a top five O with mediocre coaching. I really can’t figure out why nobody else here questions the coaching ability. Siri was labeled a blue collar hard working coach. He seems pretty good with players. Deals with the press fine. But is he a top 15 O mind in your opinion? I think you need both the coaching and players. Playcalling can clearly make things easier for the players.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

These are NFL defenses. Everybody plays all sorts of teams. Because a team didn’t have their WR or starting QB has very little to do with our offense converting third downs and scoring points. The Cowboys scored the most points at 31 points per game. Your expectations are out of control. You think Hurts sucks….but we should score points than anybody. Ridiculous!

🙄 OH gnats and Wuss just POWERHOUSE defenses,the JETS are just top of the heap LOL. We played CRAP teams. Pity you can't see it

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Your expectations are out of control.

Nope, I just never lowered my bar like you did. You went down faster than a Thai hooker

46 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Winning close games does impress me. Having a huge lead involves no pressure. Having important moments help build a team. Prepares them. Being down two scores and coming back and such. This is the NFL. Not Ohio St versus South West Key West community college.

Winning close games against GOOD teams impresses me,not playing catch up vs the gnats LOL.Once again your bar is set so low ANTS can't get under it

45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We were ready for the postseason because we beat down the Lions last year? This is such faulty logic….I can’t even continue to consider what you’re saying.

LMFAO we totally SLOPPED our way into post season last year,only to be met with the rude awakening everyone on earth knew was coming except YOU. Winning vs 3rd string QB's teams without WR's or RB's out. CB's missing,yeah very impressive(like playing South Florida Keys as you mentioned)

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why stop at only 32 points. We should be putting up basketball scores. 100 points or we are terrible.

This is where you lose people when you poo poo a legit point by taking things to extremes.    You know very well that a huge reason for any success last year was the opponent.  It's been a common theme since October 2019.   

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nope, I just never lowered my bar like you did. You went down faster than Thai hooker

You say we have to score more than anybody or we are terrible. Nothing very rational there. Maybe someday we’ll build that team. I’ll just let you **** and moan until we have an offense that breaks every NFL record. I got no time for this extreme unrealistic crap.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s the thing. How brilliant an offensive mind do we possess with the coaching? Oline coach is a stud. He’s the run game coach also. Which was great. Our O isn’t so overwhelmingly talented to be a top five O with mediocre coaching. I really can’t figure out why nobody else here questions the coaching ability. Siri was labeled a blue collar hard working coach. He seems pretty good with players. Deals with the press fine. But is he a top 15 O mind in your opinion? I think you need both the coaching and players. Playcalling can clearly make things easier for the players.

RUn a 21 trap play. If you have talent and gain 11 yards every time you run it,why does that take a "special" offensive mind?? You need the TALENT. You can run vanilla plays all game as long as the other team can't stop you

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You say we have to score more than anybody or we are terrible. Nothing very rational there. Maybe someday we’ll build that team. I’ll just let you **** and moan until we have an offense that breaks every NFL record. I got no time for this extreme unrealistic crap.

yes such an UNGODLY amount of expectation. Unfortunate;y to win a SB that's what you need to do and I am wasting MY time with YOU because YOUR bar is so low it's pathetic you are happy with bronze. I'm sorry I thought the idea of playing a game was to score more than the other team? Did I miss something?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

This is where you lose people when you poo poo a legit point by taking things to extremes.    You know very well that a huge reason for any success last year was the opponent.  It's been a common theme since October 2019.   

I thought his 32 points was the extreme personally. Being a better offense than anybody was last year or we suck. To me that’s pretty extreme. So why stop there? If we don’t get 100 cut everybody. This is just outrageous expectations for a team that had four wins the season before. I mean let’s talk win/loss. If we lose a single game we obviously suck. It’s just the NFL. Easy as pie to dominate. If we played in a top league versus professionals then it would be acceptable.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I thought his 32 points was the extreme personally. Being a better offense than anybody was last year or we suck. To me that’s pretty extreme. So why stop there? If we don’t get 100 cut everybody. This is just outrageous expectations for a team that had four wins the season before. I mean let’s talk win/loss. If we lose a single game we obviously suck. It’s just the NFL. Easy as pie to dominate. If we played in a top league versus professionals then it would be acceptable.

LMAO who said 100??? Only YOU. 32 is not out of anyones realm of possibility nor is that "extreme" SB teams do it all the time

51 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Winning close games does impress me. Having a huge lead involves no pressure. Having important moments help build a team. Prepares them. Being down two scores and coming back and such. This is the NFL. Not Ohio St versus South West Key West community college.

Ok... so I'm not on the extreme side like GB is.... and I understand the idea of close games being good for pressure moments etc.   Agreed there 100%

However... you keep missing the point.  Was any game vs a 9 win or better team last year even close?  Not talking about final score with the garbage score at the end to make the score look better.  But in any of the losses ( other than the Giants)  was the game ever in question?   Did you really see a chance in winning any of those games down the stretch?

We beat bad teams in  a couple of close games.  Would be nice to beat a good team or even have  close game where it's in doubt down the stretch.   

That didn't happen yet.  It should this year.  Potential is absolutely there.   Let's see what happens.   

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RUn a 21 trap play. If you have talent and gain 11 yards every time you run it,why does that take a "special" offensive mind?? You need the TALENT. You can run vanilla plays all game as long as the other team can't stop you

Yep if the other 31 teams just didn’t have professionals it would be easy. But this is big time football. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep if the other 31 teams just didn’t have professionals it would be easy. But this is big time football. 

You need to take your meds and go to bed,you're delusional

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO who said 100??? Only YOU. 32 is not out of anyones realm of possibility nor is that "extreme" SB teams do it all the time

Nobody did it last year. So why are your expectations we have to be better offense than the whole league or we suck?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... so I'm not on the extreme side like GB is.... and I understand the idea of close games being good for pressure moments etc.   Agreed there 100%

However... you keep missing the point.  Was any game vs a 9 win or better team last year even close?  Not talking about final score with the garbage score at the end to make the score look better.  But in any of the losses ( other than the Giants)  was the game ever in question?   Did you really see a chance in winning any of those games down the stretch?

We beat bad teams in  a couple of close games.  Would be nice to beat a good team or even have  close game where it's in doubt down the stretch.   

That didn't happen yet.  It should this year.  Potential is absolutely there.   Let's see what happens.   

You’ll find a way to disqualify any victories we get.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody did it last year. So why are your expectations we have to be better offense than the whole league or we suck?

Nope just better than the other team every week. We need to average around 32 a game if you want to talk SB.

Niners game was right there. 

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sounds like you are on the Hurts train now then.

I am on the " he has no excuses now " train.    Diapers and training wheels are off.... big boy time.... 3 year veteran now.   

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nope just better than the other team every week. We need to average around 32 a game if you want to talk SB.

Yet the Rams didn’t do that. They must suck too.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... so I'm not on the extreme side like GB is.... and I understand the idea of close games being good for pressure moments etc.   Agreed there 100%

However... you keep missing the point.  Was any game vs a 9 win or better team last year even close?  Not talking about final score with the garbage score at the end to make the score look better.  But in any of the losses ( other than the Giants)  was the game ever in question?   Did you really see a chance in winning any of those games down the stretch?

We beat bad teams in  a couple of close games.  Would be nice to beat a good team or even have  close game where it's in doubt down the stretch.   

That didn't happen yet.  It should this year.  Potential is absolutely there.   Let's see what happens.   

Give up Joe,Hurts is god and we're going to the SB scoring 17 a game-BELIEVE!!!!

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I am on the " he has no excuses now " train.    Diapers and training wheels are off.... big boy time.... 3 year veteran now.   

Yep, everybody has to be at their peak at 24. History shows that’s the case for sure😂

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s the thing. How brilliant an offensive mind do we possess with the coaching? Oline coach is a stud. He’s the run game coach also. Which was great. Our O isn’t so overwhelmingly talented to be a top five O with mediocre coaching. I really can’t figure out why nobody else here questions the coaching ability. Siri was labeled a blue collar hard working coach. He seems pretty good with players. Deals with the press fine. But is he a top 15 O mind in your opinion? I think you need both the coaching and players. Playcalling can clearly make things easier for the players.

See... here is the thing.  Can the QB throw at the 2022 NFL level. No excuses now..... either yes or no.   If no...then he won't get paid.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet the Rams didn’t do that. They must suck too.

VS bad teams 32 is not unreasonable if you have a top flight team. I said AVERAGE. VS good defenses maybe you dont get 32,but vs CRAP teams 42 should be your goal