1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Give up Joe,Hurts is god and we're going to the SB scoring 17 a game-BELIEVE!!!!

Rams scored 27 and won it all. Amazing! How did that just happen? Five points lower than your vaunted you suck if you don’t score this much bar. Geez

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See... here is the thing.  Can the QB throw at the 2022 NFL level. No excuses now..... either yes or no.   If no...then he won't get paid.

We’ll see

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rams scored 27 and won it all. Amazing! How did that just happen? Five points lower than your vaunted you suck if you don’t score this much bar. Geez

We’ll see

LMAO yeah in the SB they STILL scored 27,that's not 27 vs Detroit(that's only 4 points under 32----I will do the math for you)

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep, everybody has to be at their peak at 24. History shows that’s the case for sure😂

Welp at 24 peak or no peak he either cuts the mustard or he's outta here,or do you plan on shelling out 35 million for 4 years waiting for him to "peak"? 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO yeah in the SB they STILL scored 27,that's not 27 vs Detroit

They scored 23 in the SB. But let’s not let facts get on the way of your unreasonable logic. They averaged 27. They didn’t play great teams every week either. Yet still pulled off the miracle with 23.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They scored 23 in the SB. But let’s not let facts get on the way of your unreasonable logic. They averaged 27. They didn’t play great teams every week either. Yet still pulled off the miracle with 23.

Oh just using YOUR numbers. 32 during the season is NOT EXTREME. Post season obviously you play better teams???? If I want to get to the SB I will shoot for 32 per game,you can shoot for 17 and pray you slop your way in once again. Like I said,your bar is SOOOOO low

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You’ll find a way to disqualify any victories we get.

It's the fact dude... stop it already.   Look at the 9 wins.. and where the teams drafted.  Only the Saints with 9 wins...they had 3rd string QB, no Kamara, both OTs out... and we already know they are a bad road team.     

You bring up all the injuries and schedule when it fits your narrative,  why are you blind to it last year?   Were you impressed with Minshew beating the Jets?    Well which win from Hurts is any more impressive? 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp at 24 peak or no peak he either cuts the mustard or he's outta here,or do you plan on shelling out 35 million for 4 years waiting for him to "peak"? 

He’s under contract for four years. I’m not as set on you that he’s out of here or paid after this season. Two years starting at 24 years old….I still see plenty of room for growth. I just need to see he’s on still on the right trajectory. I expect he’ll be better when he’s 25. Plenty of QBs actually seem to peak in their thirties. Thank goodness we don’t judge everybody on whether they deserve massive contracts when they are 24. Plenty of guys get drafted at that age.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh just using YOUR numbers. 32 during the season is NOT EXTREME. Post season obviously you play better teams???? If I want to get to the SB I will shoot for 32 per game,you can shoot for 17 and pray you slop your way in once again. Like I said,your bar is SOOOOO low

Cowboys had the best offense at 31. But sure shoot for 100….I don’t care. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s under contract for four years. I’m not as set on you that he’s out of here or paid after this season. Two years starting at 24 years old….I still see plenty of room for growth. I just need to see he’s on still on the right trajectory. I expect he’ll be better when he’s 25. Plenty of QBs actually seem to peak in their thirties. Thank goodness we don’t judge everybody on whether they deserve massive contracts when they are 24. Plenty of guys get drafted at that age.

OK,but I think Howie wants to see production THIS year,not wait until next year to make a move

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Niners game was right there. 

Why was that?  Because Jimmy G and their offense struggled big time.  Are you trying to give Gannon credit for keeping their score low?   Certainly not Hurts for putting up little points?

So Wentz peaked year one? But now we lowered the bar for Hurts to where we coddle him for 4 years? NO,this is year 3,do or die for him. We went out of our way to give him a very nice offense.There are no excuses

I would love to have the best offense. The best defense. The best ST. Maybe we will some day. I going to stay in reality though. NFL is as tough as it comes. 31 other top teams to compete against. I just want to build a great all around team. I don’t need blowouts every week. Just get the W baby! If we score two TDs on ST and another on D that carries us to victory…I’m totally fine with that. I don’t want them chasing stats or blowout glory. I don’t need us to go for it on fourth down on our own twenty up two scores to make FL happy. Just punt.

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Give up Joe,Hurts is god and we're going to the SB scoring 17 a game-BELIEVE!!!!

See...  your issue though is you are so focused on #s.  I just want to see the offense run smoothly and the QB make passes. I don't need any stats.  If he jumps ahead by 3 TDs and passes the ball well... then we run the ball the rest of the game to win... I'm fine with that. 

Can he make passes vs good teams and win.   Big boy plays....don't worry about stats, that's fantasy football  

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game   32 is unreasonable? Ok maybe it's 1.5 points per game high,but that's what I shoot for

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See...  your issue though is you are so focused on #s.  I just want to see the offense run smoothly and the QB make passes. I don't need any stats.  If he jumps ahead by 3 TDs and passes the ball well... then we run the ball the rest of the game to win... I'm fine with that. 

Can he make passes vs good teams and win.   Big boy plays....don't worry about stats, that's fantasy football  

We almost lost some games going conservative. Why stop what's working? I never could understand that unless the game is out of reach in the 4th. So yeah I want to see a smooth offense like you,but you gotta put up the numbers if you want to go deep into the playoffs

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep, everybody has to be at their peak at 24. History shows that’s the case for sure😂

Again.... you have to go to extreme don't you?   You don't see it's why you lose everyone?   I said no excuses now.... did I say he has to be at his peak?     

So I'll pull a typical Ham response back to you...maybe you get the point ...

" So Ham, you are saying an athlete can only experience success at his peak"  so we should be patient with Hurts for a decade and pay him the huge money while we wait?    Is that what you are saying No Ham, you just want to pay him $45 million a year why we wait for him to peak" 

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why was that?  Because Jimmy G and their offense struggled big time.  Are you trying to give Gannon credit for keeping their score low?   Certainly not Hurts for putting up little points?

It’s a team game. Niners we’re the fifth best defense. In the playoffs…Cowboys scored 17 on them as the top offense in the league. Packers with the MVP QB scored 10. SB winning Rams scored 20. But yeah….week two with a new team we should thrown up 30 on them. Just terrible QB play…if only we had ARod…oh wait….he did no better…never mind.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See...  your issue though is you are so focused on #s.  I just want to see the offense run smoothly and the QB make passes. I don't need any stats.  If he jumps ahead by 3 TDs and passes the ball well... then we run the ball the rest of the game to win... I'm fine with that. 

Can he make passes vs good teams and win.   Big boy plays....don't worry about stats, that's fantasy football  

If we jumjped out 21-0,the I see no reason even if you are coasting that you can't get 32

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rams scored 27 and won it all. Amazing! How did that just happen? Five points lower than your vaunted you suck if you don’t score this much bar. Geez

We’ll see

Your best post of 2022.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again.... you have to go to extreme don't you?   You don't see it's why you lose everyone?   I said no excuses now.... did I say he has to be at his peak?     

So I'll pull a typical Ham response back to you...maybe you get the point ...

" So Ham, you are saying an athlete can only experience success at his peak"  so we should be patient with Hurts for a decade and pay him the huge money while we wait?    Is that what you are saying No Ham, you just want to pay him $45 million a year why we wait for him to peak" 

That's the same thing I said LOL. Or we can pull a Jerruh and get trapped in a never ending high dollar contract for mediocre

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I would love to have the best offense. The best defense. The best ST. Maybe we will some day. I going to stay in reality though. NFL is as tough as it comes. 31 other top teams to compete against. I just want to build a great all around team. I don’t need blowouts every week. Just get the W baby! If we score two TDs on ST and another on D that carries us to victory…I’m totally fine with that. I don’t want them chasing stats or blowout glory. I don’t need us to go for it on fourth down on our own twenty up two scores to make FL happy. Just punt.

I'll take the 2017... you could absolutely make an argument for all of that.

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Wentz peaked year one? But now we lowered the bar for Hurts to where we coddle him for 4 years? NO,this is year 3,do or die for him. We went out of our way to give him a very nice offense.There are no excuses

ARod barely had thrown for over 300 yards after his first three seasons. What was GB thinking. Should have cut that bum!

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s a team game. Niners we’re the fifth best defense. In the playoffs…Cowboys scored 17 on them as the top offense in the league. Packers with the MVP QB scored 10. SB winning Rams scored 20. But yeah….week two with a new team we should thrown up 30 on them. Just terrible QB play…if only we had ARod…oh wait….he did no better…never mind.

LMAO 32 DURING THE SEASON is what I SHOOT for(maybe I dont get there??? It's a GOAL). Why would I want to shoot for 17??? Post season you play better teams,so no you wont score 32 there,but putting up 32 during the season means you are a LEGIT playoff team,17-not so much

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK,but I think Howie wants to see production THIS year,not wait until next year to make a move

You are in the majority with this thinking.  But add Lurie to Howie.  

It's why we are irrelevant. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I'll take the 2017... you could absolutely make an argument for all of that.

Yep…Mills and Darby Island.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

ARod barely had thrown for over 300 yards after his first three seasons. What was GB thinking. Should have cut that bum!

LOL OH he peaked and peaked again and again? Maybe they kept him for that? And 300 yards in a tougher division than us who face CRAP teams?