37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Not all about stats... the idea of helping your QB be put in position to win.    Let's be honest,  other than Ham we all know there hasn't been a win vs  9 win or better team with their starting QB since October 2019.  

The rest of us don't simply view that as a shot at Hurts, because he wasn't the only guy playing since then, but it's more of a shot at the organization. 

Now they have a roster that can and should beat a quality team.   So it's putting Hurts in that position.... not just seeing in a close low scoring game vs the awful Giants.

Except I was the only one complaining in 2019. Your catching up…finally. But now you’ve fallen behind again.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep….you, the media and all other casual fans believe everything is all about the QB.

This year it is...because of the contract situation...and we know that's how the owner thinks.

I think sometimes you confuse what " you or I" would do. ..from what we are saying about our opinions of what Lurie and Howie are going to do.  Those are different.   

The owner is about a franchise QB 

They like to get the contract done prior to free agency.  

They set up a roster to give the QB all the tools to win. 

It's not hard to follow the logic

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Except I was the only one complaining in 2019. Your catching up…finally. But now you’ve fallen behind again.

Dude... you are your biggest fan.  

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Except I was the only one complaining in 2019. Your catching up…finally. But now you’ve fallen behind again.

Yeah.. you were the only one complaining that Greg Ward was our best WR in 2019...and Fulgham was in 2020??? Lol.

Remember this genius take you had on Fulgham " the Eagles messed up with Fulgham's contract because they are going to have to overpay him now"    lol.  

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I can see your point with all this attention to the other side of the ball being all about Hurts….NOT

Yea just added a #1 WR for Hurts already had a top TE and OL along with a top ground game without counting him as a runner….Hell even his #4 WR is vastly upgraded. 
 

Like how much more do you want them to add on the offense. You must just not like the fact if the D plays well you can’t blame them anymore use them as an excuse for Hurts poor play 
 

 

I want you to put your posting on here on the line.   

If Hurts doesn't get a next contract with the Eagles... will you stop posting on here?   

I mean you are so ahead of the rest of us, so much smarter... only you see it.  Just like Ziggy was better than Lane who only did well because he was on illegal substances.   Only you can see the greatness of Hurts. 

40 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So now he has his buddy here,there are no excuses NOT to score 1 more TD per game. Lets recall Sanders scored ZERO TD's and Brown is a definite upgrade over your boy Reagor,so you still say 7 more points a game is impossible? I'm not asking,I am demanding it if I am the Eagles FO. Hurts would really have to try very hard to fail

I hear you demanding we be the number one offense in all the league. I don’t see us as the most talented offense in the league. 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yea just added a #1 WR for Hurts already had a top TE and OL along with a top ground game without counting him as a runner….Hell even his #4 WR is vastly upgraded. 
 

Like how much more do you want them to add on the offense. You must just not like the fact if the D plays well you can’t blame them anymore use them as an excuse for Hurts poor play 
 

 

The rest of us know this.  Yet we are behind.

See Ham thinks Hurts needs to be MVP level to be accented.  Maybe the 2017 bar set from the previous guy really scared him.  But we all know we just need Hurts to show he can beat a good team, and do it passing the ball.  

That's what is needed for 30, 40, 50 mil per year... certainly we all agree 30 mil isn't too much for a starting QB going forward.  I just don't get how Ham is missing step 1 to step 2 here? 

Hurts can't be this developing QB for 10 years..  the contracts don't work that way.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I hear you demanding we be the number one offense in all the league. I don’t see us as the most talented offense in the league. 

I don't either... but that's because our passing game is limited by the QB. 

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The rest of us know this.  Yet we are behind.

See Ham thinks Hurts needs to be MVP level to be accented.  Maybe the 2017 bar set from the previous guy really scared him.  But we all know we just need Hurts to show he can beat a good team, and do it passing the ball.  

That's what is needed for 30, 40, 50 mil per year... certainly we all agree 30 mil isn't too much for a starting QB going forward.  I just don't get how Ham is missing step 1 to step 2 here? 

Hurts can't be this developing QB for 10 years..  the contracts don't work that way.

I clearly stated Hurts hasn’t done enough yet. He’s a legit starter though.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I hear you demanding we be the number one offense in all the league. I don’t see us as the most talented offense in the league. 

Don’t need the #1 O in the league but we do need a consistent passing attack. And yes the biggest part of that is the QB. He has the TE he has the WRs now he has the ground game And OL to take pressure off him.

Really no reason for Hurts not to be able to succeed as a passer this year. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I clearly stated Hurts hasn’t done enough yet. He’s a legit starter though.

If he is a legit starter then he is worth paying starter money…. So he either a legit starter which indicates he is worth paying or he isn’t a legit starter and he isn’t worth paying.

Cant have it both ways 

Take it to such extremes. I was the one pointing out how our D giving up record completion percentages was effecting the offense. Now since we have more invested in the D than any other team you see that as a sign our offense should be the best in the league. Always agenda pushing. Just try watching, observing and let’s make decisions based on that for a change. 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I clearly stated Hurts hasn’t done enough yet. He’s a legit starter though.

And to keep being a starter it's going to be the biggest contract on the team by far.    Again regardless of 30, 40 or 50 mil.  

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Sanders scores 1 TD per game you better draft him top 5 in fantasy.    I think best to not focus on stats.  Trust your eyes.   There was one game that was really in doubt last year... the Giants game because they couldn't put up any points.   The rest were us killing bad teams or decent teams killing us.  

We need to see our team compete and win vs some decent teams and see how the QB plays in these situations.   I don't really care if he puts up 50 points vs the bad teams just to raise the " average" points per game.

This is where people were fooled by that year Vick had for us with the flag football group of Maclin and the Meshawns. 

I don't expect him to score every game,but ZERO TE's for an entire season is pretty sad

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Take it to such extremes. I was the one pointing out how our D giving up record completion percentages was effecting the offense. Now since we have more invested in the D than any other team you see that as a sign our offense should be the best in the league. Always agenda pushing. Just try watching, observing and let’s make decisions based on that for a change. 

Exactly...2022...no excuses. 

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I can see your point with all this attention to the other side of the ball being all about Hurts….NOT

who said it was "all about"? It's helps him,no question about that. The goal of defense it to get the opponents offense off the field so YOURS can be on it. So the more your offense is on the field is not an asset to your QB?

The roster will have some more changes, we really can't make it thru the season w/ 3 RB's

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tartt was one of the first cuts

Sure, imagine we had already contacted  Chauncey? You think the cut came before we even had a word of mouth contract? Please 

Just now, mjkline1958 said:

The roster will have some more changes, we really can't make it thru the season w/ 3 RB's

I was getting ready to bring that up.it is unEagle like. Must have their eye on one that want to add later

56 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was playing with the third string. He just wasn’t making the team(period).

No way to know that.More hindsight. it's your specialty

55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You talking about your 100 Mock Drafts and called it

Sure I post alot,did you bother to look at the last 2 months of them(No you did not). So scroll on back,take 2 days if you have to and you will see I had those 2 for quite awhile. if you fail to believe SCROLL BACK and prove it to yourself

57 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You talking about your 100 Mock Drafts and called it

And you called the S AFTER the fact. Hindsight is your best asset

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Exactly...2022...no excuses. 

2022 season you point towards improved D bring key for the QB. Yet battled against it being important in 2021. Only consistent with you is all blame should go towards Hurts.

50 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You loved Olave but loved Rosie’s trade that allowed the Saints to jump up and snag him?

Davis was my other,we got him didn't we? You're not getting both unless you live on planet Ham(oh and the S also)

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I hear you demanding we be the number one offense in all the league. I don’t see us as the most talented offense in the league. 

If we're not it's because of Hurts,the potential is there

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Only consistent with you is all blame should go towards Hurts.

You mean like your love to blame everything on Wentz lol…. Difference with us is we can see the bad with the QB and the team. Don’t just neglect to see the poor QB play and blame everyone else around him as the excuse 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

who said it was "all about"? It's helps him,no question about that. The goal of defense it to get the opponents offense off the field so YOURS can be on it. So the more your offense is on the field is not an asset to your QB?

Exactly what I was saying last year when we were giving up record completion percentages to opposing QBs. So now you agree with my assessment…cool.

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I hear you demanding we be the number one offense in all the league. I don’t see us as the most talented offense in the league. 

Name the teams with a better O line,then name the same teams that have better WR's than us,then name the same team that has better TE's than us(I'll wait). Name all the teams that are better in all 3 categories combined than we are

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly what I was saying last year when we were giving up record completion percentages to opposing QBs. So now you agree with my assessment…cool.

RIght,Howie fixed that(in theory no???)