1 hour ago, stine said:

Then I think we need to be less critical of Hurts running as much as he does. If the coaching staff encourages it how can we pick on the fact he tucks the ball and runs? The coaching staff needs to design plays to the WR's and less RPO's. Plus it makes our O-Line less effective. Not knowing if they are running or passing has to take the edge off. It may play to Hurts strength, but it will not allow him to improve his passing game.

 

We used RPOs with Foles a lot at that was the primary offense with him. The pass options are there it’s the QBs decision to make the pass, to hand it off or keep it himself. Could also see the difference in the RPOs when we played Minshew last season he used them as well. 

So the passing options are available to Hurts just like it was for both those guys running similar RPOs heavy schemes. 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We used RPOs with Foles a lot at that was the primary offense with him. The pass options are there it’s the QBs decision to make the pass, to hand it off or keep it himself. Could also see the difference in the RPOs when we played Minshew last season he used them as well. 

So the passing options are available to Hurts just like it was for both those guys running similar RPOs heavy schemes. 

Only difference is Foles and Minshew are Primarly Passers, so they mainly pass from the RPO's. Hurts is mainly a runner so will mainly run from those same play options. It is in their nature.

So maybe Call a Play designed to pass or run and see what happens?

1 minute ago, stine said:

So maybe Call a Play designed to pass or run and see what happens?

Eagles at some point will be in spots where they can’t lean on the run and have to pass how will the team do when those situations arise your guess is as good as mine.

9 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Partly yea…. The designed screen plays to brown obviously he is getting the target same with the RPO. AJ is the pass read on the play so if Hurts opts to pass it’s going to AJ
 

The more traditional drop backs for Hurts seemed to spread the ball more evenly.

OK knowing that then I am ok. Siri trying to get AJ more comfy after the trade. Makes sense. I think as Hurts settles into the season and others pick up the pace of doing their jobs we will see more pocket passing from Hurts. At least that is my hope

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I can’t just keep over and over again explaining this to you for any more weeks. We had 3 first round picks. So I’m just going to have to let you continue to not understand and misquote me. None of what you are saying, I said, is accurate. After fifty times of explaining to you and you still don’t comprehend….I have to move on.I tried.

You don't get it or understand what the results of your actions would have done,so I will let you continue to wallow in your mire of patting yourself on the back and having the lowest possible bars set for this team while making excuses for only the players you like. I keep telling you to call Novacare because they certainly need your expertise. You are wasting your talent on this board 

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts carried our team.

I thought you said the defense carried the day??? How often can you continue to be wrong and ignore it?

10 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Just re-watched the game….always different when you know the outcome….you watch different aspects.

* The O Line had some serious miscommunications and failures on blitz recognition.

* I will restate that Hurts played well. Not outstanding, but well.

* Defense allowed WAY too many third down conversions….some were run gashes on 3rd and long! Lions’ O Line is really good. Playcalling on runs up the middle combined with blocking scheme was really, really good.

* DLine was disappointing. I confirmed what I saw live.

 

PS:

boohoo. Suck it cowpies! I detest that team. Watch how fast Zeke QUITS now that Dak is out.

Overreaction Monday…maybe: Carson Wentz is the best QB in the division and COULD be the favorite to win the division.

Vikes are for real. Packers played poorly….thanks to a Vikings mauling!

You can't make all these decisions/calls after 1 game. At least I can't do it I need to see teams through week 5 to get a grasp of what teams are really like

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Really sucks that Hurts brought over his friend that is clearly the best player on the team.

If you bothered to read he was our THIRD choice to go get. I'm glad he is here and if you target him 15 times a game while ignoring everyone else of course he will be our best WR This is shocking to you? Simple math. JJ is a stud while your boy Reagor washes his car

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or a hot dog and fifth round pick

2 hot dogs and we could trade Hurts

4 hours ago, stine said:

We need to relax. We were not the only team that did not play well due to lack of PS snaps. Andy Reid always gets his team in shape and that showed yesterday. They were burning on all cylinders. Green Bay looked bad. So did SF, Tenn, Indy and the Rams all played poorly and mostly due to lack of snaps in the PS. Also, we were dead tired in the 3rd quarter. The whole team was out of shape. You had to notice they played well after that first drive into the third quarter..... One thing Ham was correct on is that the play calling attributed to hurts running. RPO has to go!  We need designed run plays. We have to design plays to get Smith and Goedert more involved. That is not on hurts, but the coaching staff.

   Look, it was week 1. We need to work out some stuff on both sides of the ball. I refuse to make rash judgments based on week one and so should everyone else. I knew this board was going to complain for the most part as soon as I saw a designed run for Hurts on the first play of the game! What does that call do for Hurts Mindset? What is wrong with Siri? Why call that play?

   On the defense, they were just out of gas midway thru the 3rd and it showed. There were some good plays I saw from a few players. Epps, Edwards, White and a couple others made some plays. The tackling was terrible! Play Calling was terrible. But we won in spite of that. This was why I was concerned about this game. It does not matter how good the other team is. You still need to execute. Hutchinson is a solid player! Anyway, I am done now. Go ahead and say what you want, but bottom line is we need to watch the film and make adjustments for Minn. We need to practice tackling. We need to figure out a way to stop Jefferson. We need to figure out a way to apply pressure on Cousins....

   Or I see an old fashioned butt whooping coming...

Agreed alot of the "power teams" played poorly. Even TB looked lousy. new players/coaches and the first few weeks are rude awakenings and seeing your original plan/schemes need adjusted. JJ is a total stud and we're going to have our hands full,but we cannot ignore Cook. I think we can cover Thielen or at least hold him down. I was happy scoring 38(I asked for 32 per game average). I was surprised the D gave up 35,then again they got the pick 6 or we would have lost the game on offense only. So there were good and bad take aways

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Agreed alot of the "power teams" played poorly. Even TB looked lousy

Rarely do the best teams in the league play well early on. You don't want to peak too early. Now I know Kansas and Buffalo looked really good but generally the best teams scrape wins early. 

Now I'm not saying the Eagles are in that same tier yet but we don't know how good this team can be yet. They got the win yesterday and at one point it was moving towards being a blow out. 

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This won’t happen not with Hurts at QB at least… Siri and Steichen specifically added and learned about RPOs to help Hurts play to his strengths. 

IDK IMO that is wrong. We saw the RPO college offense last year and we didn't do much until Siri STOPPED it. Now yesterday the first series was back to the college offense(from what I am hearing) and ONCE AGAIN that failed. Both Siri and Hurts need to graduate to the NFL and stop trying to interject college offenses into pro teams. You can use it at times as a change of pace play but we all know the RPO college offense should remain in college

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We have a running QB of course they are going to design runs for him(though it was a read option Hurts opted to keep the ball he could have handed it to the RB) not all that shocking. But you do have to have that concern about the sheer amounts of hits he is taking.

I mean Hurts probably got hit what 30+ times vs Detroit that a lot for any player in one game. 

Maybe Howie wants him out so he has an excuse to go for a QB next year lol

2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Believe they wanted Davis to get eased into the pro game. Only 22 snaps but he was more effective than some who played more.

The entire D needs to work on tackling!

Davis stuffed that 3rd down run. That is when I made the sarcastic post you misread lol. They ended up scoring on 4th down,but Davis totally destroyed that 3rd down play ALONE

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Eagles at some point will be in spots where they can’t lean on the run and have to pass how will the team do when those situations arise your guess is as good as mine.

AJ got his yards,I would just like to see more targets for others. I'm sure that will happen because it MUST happen next week

18 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Rarely do the best teams in the league play well early on. You don't want to peak too early. Now I know Kansas and Buffalo looked really good but generally the best teams scrape wins early. 

Now I'm not saying the Eagles are in that same tier yet but we don't know how good this team can be yet. They got the win yesterday and at one point it was moving towards being a blow out. 

Like some have said the D looked gassed in the third.Most offenses have more O players they can rotate in to keep them fresh which gasses the D late. I was surprised Swift pretty much ran amok on us and apparently the pass rush wasn't there again??? if we had trouble with Swift,Cook is going to get 250 yards on us. I don't get the games so there is no "eye" tests for me. So I rely on other who watched the actual game to fill me in. Working Davis in slowly will or should pay dividends later. Quez got ZERO targets(as in NONE) and we know he can light it up if Hurts can hit him. Smith 4 targets,1 was a drop what were the other 3? Smith got 900+ yards as a rookie last year with a worse team and he needs to contribute. like i said this cant be the Hurts run hog show with a 1 read WR target in AJ. That is not going to work and believe me if we do that next week we will take a big L

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts carried our team.

yes that 53% completion rate should scare every secondary on the planet

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

yes that 53% completion rate should scare every secondary on the planet

It sure scares Eagles fans

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback   So say Hurts sticks. Where does he fall on this payout list? And also scout the guys that would be FA's in 2023/24 and would you pay Hurts alot or replace him with a FA QB(as well as drafting another)

Barnett out for the yr - ACL

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-news-roundup-latest-league-updates-from-monday-sept-12

55 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Barnett out for the yr - ACL

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-news-roundup-latest-league-updates-from-monday-sept-12

At least it was early in the season

 

Steve Young on  Monday Night Football talking about how many teams came out out of sync looking rusty because they don’t play in the PS. He explained playing this team game is like a dance steps….the more you do it…then more in sync it gets. Steve Young and myself differ from this board on that clearly.

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

At least it was early in the season

 

Alot players getting hurt week 1(because they have bubble wrap practices and aren't ready to be hit)

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Steve Young on  Monday Night Football talking about how many teams came out out of sync looking rusty because they don’t play in the PS. He explained playing this team game is like a dance steps….the more you do it…then more in sync it gets. Steve Young and myself differ from this board on that clearly.

How do you differ?? 

7 hours ago, stine said:

Only difference is Foles and Minshew are Primarly Passers, so they mainly pass from the RPO's. Hurts is mainly a runner so will mainly run from those same play options. It is in their nature.

So maybe Call a Play designed to pass or run and see what happens?

There were designed QB runs also….not all RPOs.