18 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Plus I don't think you sign the old guys ...well because they are old. Time to move on. Priority should be addressing the lines.  That is their calling card.  

I think they have plenty of money to do whatever they want.  Cap space looks great in 2024... next year they will sign guys using the bonus/ backload that ALL 32 teams use.... and if the QB gets extended, the real cap hit will start in 2025.  

They will sign who they want.  They didn't balk at " A safety for whatever price "  they balked at that particular safety.  

They show interest in plenty of players.... showing interest and really wanting a guy are 2 different things. 

They will have lots of decisions next offseason for sure.

I don’t disagree too much here. But don’t think we do have the money really. It’s a big road block to retaining good players currently on our team. But ‘showing interest’ in plenty of players is what you do. Love to have and keep any great or good players. So it comes down to potential options if availability. Postion-aly. Our contract guys, versus suspected available FA that would consider coming here, versus draft class expectations….consider all levels of good players balanced by money…or more specifically contract details. Can’t pay every guy worth top money. Definitely can’t absorb tons of guaranteed cap money immediately. Need to bank on the guys worth getting long term signings towards. Then Rosie can stretch 2022-2025 play to pay cap wise in 2027. It’s all factors. That’s the puzzle of roster building. We are at least in a favorable position to really appear to have quality options. We shouldn’t have to overpay a Kirk type FA. We hopefully aren’t facing the situation of good players not desiring to come here. 

I’m fine with benefitting with a Pats type favorable schedule really. Easiest path to gain home field and a high seed works for me. Assuming the toughest matchups likely the highest seeds. Not always the case. A top seeded team may suffer a major blow late. Like ARod going down or something. But you assume highest seed being the best. Earn home field as much as possible. Easier opponents also can ease pressure on the team some. Maybe can rest….it maybe not have to push certain guys as hard. You know….the difference in resting that hamstring to your key player versus having to risk it because you need the win so bad. That stuff really helps. Pro football. No excuses. Schedule is what it is. Every team is tough…really. Even the top pick Jags knocked off the Colts at the end last year. So the worst can beat a playoff team. Why I love the NFL. Parity is pretty good. Good balance. Brady dominated for so long. But really felt like many teams could do it over the last decades. Think there has been a handful of bums. Jets and Lions have sucked for a long time. But even Houston was a strong playoff team just three seasons ago.

17 games now. Extra playoff games and teams. So now, more than ever, just ending the season hot is all that matters.

Dominate all year but lose key guys that can’t suit up at the end you aren’t the same. All comes down to who you got and how you playing come postseason. Matchups. Think things could work out a bunch of different ways. The best if the best….Bills right now…probably matchup with the most opponents favorably. But every team has easier matchups than others. So see how it all falls.

I’d say we don’t want to deal with Tampa Bay really. Their experienced team and coaching staff is clearly a tough challenge for us. Vita Vea is a bad match for our interior Oline. We don’t have the advantage there. Think their corners…especially Davis is a tough matchup for us. He locked Smitty up really well last season. Not saying we can’t revenge beat them now. Just saying Vikings could be better for us matchup wise. Like when we won the SB. Saints felt they matched up well with us. I admit it would have been the most difficult opponent. Think we still beat them. Think they just cry babies. But they were the only ones stopping us in the NFC. But think we beat them 7 out of 10 times still. Tampa is problematic. But I’d say today…Niners are the team we’d hope to avoid until the NFC championship game. Still a long season. Everything will change way before we get there. That’s the one thing we know for sure….everything won’t remain the same as week 7.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We got Avonte Maddox at 7.5 mil a year as a Slot CB. Ceedy Deuce demanded a trade because Zona was prioritizing others and capping him as a Slot CB. So we could assume Cards wanted to pay Gardner-Johnson like we paid Maddox. But he decided he wants S money. Now that market has blown up to 20 mil. We balked at the top FA paying 14 mil. So quite a big gap between 7.5 mil and 20 mil. He was looking for more than we’ll assume near 7.5 already. How far is he playing his way towards the twenty mil? So if you want to retain his services seeing how he started day one with no TC. Never been in this system. Showed quickly he fit. You’d have to assume with his tangible athleticism and time in this D he’d easily get better and improve  through the season. Easily you’d have to think the best plan toward the future is investing more in youth than twilight players. All the guys I’m listing for that bill. Kelce, BG, Cox and Hargrave you can’t be banking on. Maybe one of those can be kept if he gives a hometown discount and finishing the year strong. Bradbury….I’d think being a very good player but possibly last on the prioritize list of the few I’ve been mentioning. 

 Kelce, Cox and Graham are all probably gone next season, so we should have that Money to use for other salaries. I doubt we keep Sanders and he walks. So we need to replace DT, DE and RB in next year's draft to help keep our CAP manageable to sign the QB.... Allot to consider IMO.....

Although I wouldn't mind Graham back.

Also would toss in Lane and the need for someone to challenge for the starting RT. Lane concussed at least 3x in 5 yrs and could call it a career.

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m saying he’s weighing all possible options. Gauging current young talented guys already here with what their compensation expectations are should help evaluate. But can’t see how you watch this team and don’t want to keep the guys I’m listing. Good players. Probably can’t keep all. My reasoning of not being able to retain all the goid in-house talent is the stuff you guys don’t want to hear….all about how we didn’t clear our salary cap first to enable a cleaner better championship window. We are capped out really. So Rosie has, time and time again, shown he prefers the guy signing he can work to deal with the cap hit four years from now and after with even dead money.

  But clearly have to look at these guys playing massive percentage of snaps as keepers. Bradbury, Gardner-Johnson, Epps and White are always out there. They are each thriving. So I don’t see a version of not wanting to keep any of them. So it just comes down to money.

  Luxury guys to keep that are FA are Fletch, Hargrave, BG and Kelce. Be great to keep everybody. But these guys earn big bucks and are in the twilight of their careers. I just don’t see the cap money available to hardly even consider keeping these grizzled studs going forward. Think we are looking more to rework a few of the guys we have signed longer term to even try to keep most of the younger players I’m suggesting. Bradbury maybe fits more in this twilight group than the young group. Clearly teams targeting that side instead of Slay. He’s been fairly up to the challenge I’d judge. So that’s worth some serious thought and consideration.

So, he's doing his job

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No way you aren’t considering all these factors. Especially being at the trade deadline. The trade I’m front running and contemplating is a very big one. A young Pro Bowl pass rusher. Take number 32 in 2023 plus 32 in 2024. But maybe there are better deals to work. Can’t know all. But I’m balancing  all these contract players on our team, draft picks, cap room. So I think the plan of going great comp picks this offseason towards 2024 draft is a factor. We have two second rounders in 2024. Maybe we just give up one of those fir an unnamed trade possibility player. Don’t know. But can’t possibly not consider everything before you can make a deadline deal this year. Especially a big move. Or what I’d say is a considerable trade. Availability, cost versus position. Don’t think we should be buying hard on a very short term option like the Bills did with Von Miller. Guy just dominated and dictated the game for the Rams last year. Doing it again this year. Arguably biggest factor in yesterdays titan matchup versus Mahomes. Love those results. But Bills really paying for it. But don’t think that should be our path. I want to be entering and maintaining a championship window potentially. So my thoughts are to strengthen this year’s squad and push chips in and be serious about trying to go for it. But gotta do it in a manner that is somewhat sustainable for next few years. I won’t it all!

I don't see Howie working this way. He loves his linemen and normally gets them through the draft. He still doesn't seem real good at drafting DB's(or we can't develop them or both),so FA is where he goes to find the experienced ones. Probably why your S was avoided in that draft also. I just don't buy that Howie would want a 5 year contract on a DB. Seems to me most linemen retire as Eagles. LB's-same as DB's. We got Dean because he was a flat out steal even Howie couldn't resist. White was an FA pick-up. Will be more interesting this year since he also loves WR's, but we are solid there now,so no need to hunt out a good round 1 guy. A couple of possible RB's we could draft and let Sanders walk unless he wants to work cheap. Also interesting is that there are alot of nice CB's and S's next draft,but IDK if Howie takes one. Slay and Bradberry both FA pick-ups and we had many chances to draft some, but didn't. He will take a shot on later ones like Zech or what have you if nobody interests him. We got Davis,but could easily see him taking another D line. Howie has always relied on a pass rush which means the DB's don't need to be studs. Another guy I would look at at the trade deadline is the TE from Denver(starts with an O and I cant pronounce it. he is solid but underutilized IMO ) Stoll is ok and we have Calc up and coming,but adding him would give us a 1/2 TE punch the rest of the season since Calc still seems hampered a bit

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say we don’t want to deal with Tampa Bay really. Their experienced team and coaching staff is clearly a tough challenge for us. Vita Vea is a bad match for our interior Oline. We don’t have the advantage there. Think their corners…especially Davis is a tough matchup for us. He locked Smitty up really well last season. Not saying we can’t revenge beat them now. Just saying Vikings could be better for us matchup wise. Like when we won the SB. Saints felt they matched up well with us. I admit it would have been the most difficult opponent. Think we still beat them. Think they just cry babies. But they were the only ones stopping us in the NFC. But think we beat them 7 out of 10 times still. Tampa is problematic. But I’d say today…Niners are the team we’d hope to avoid until the NFC championship game. Still a long season. Everything will change way before we get there. That’s the one thing we know for sure….everything won’t remain the same as week 7.

Why would I want to avoid anyone? To be the best you beat the best. it's always worked that way. You don't control who you avoid anyway. Sometimes beating that team that got your goat before is a HUGE morale booster at years end

2 hours ago, stine said:

 Kelce, Cox and Graham are all probably gone next season, so we should have that Money to use for other salaries. I doubt we keep Sanders and he walks. So we need to replace DT, DE and RB in next year's draft to help keep our CAP manageable to sign the QB.... Allot to consider IMO.....

I agree, those are the positions I have been looking at also. Also would like to find another RT because we really pay when Lane goes down and he is "shaky" or was before about quitting whenever he feels like it. Really like the Texas RB- no weaknesses in his game, areas can be improved, but really he has it all. Now that he is concussed Lane may decide now is the time to hang them up 

31 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Although I wouldn't mind Graham back.

Also would toss in Lane and the need for someone to challenge for the starting RT. Lane concussed at least 3x in 5 yrs and could call it a career.

I posted before I saw this,we though exactly the same thing

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/nfl-draft-targets-2023?team=PHI   

I can vouch for Porter Jr, dude can play

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/nfl-draft-targets-2023?team=PHI   

They have us picking 31 meaning we lose the SB. Wishful thinking IMo. We are good, but not sure we make it that far this year. I do believe we can make to the NFC Championship game though....

17 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

I can vouch for Porter Jr, dude can play

Yeah but would Howie take a CB with his first pick?

3 minutes ago, stine said:

They have us picking 31 meaning we lose the SB. Wishful thinking IMo. We are good, but not sure we make it that far this year. I do believe we can make to the NFC Championship game though....

Another place has us beating Buffalo in the SB picking 32nd lol

So that's the question you need to ask WWHD?

WWHD?

17 minutes ago, stine said:

They have us picking 31 meaning we lose the SB. Wishful thinking IMo. We are good, but not sure we make it that far this year. I do believe we can make to the NFC Championship game though....

Lots of teams will be battling to be in position to take a QB,so would not shock me that we trade the 6 back(or whatever pick it ends up being)for possibly 3 round 1's,then pull a Howie and get a player plus another 1 the following year(may as well keep that going LOL). I like Porter myself,he is a homer but would Howie make that move? IDK historically I would say NO

8 minutes ago, stine said:

WWHD?

What Would Howie Do

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lots of teams will be battling to be in position to take a QB,so would not shock me that we trade the 6 back(or whatever picks it ends up being)for possibly 3 round 1's,
 

  I highly doubt we would get 3  No. 1's for the 6th pick. It depends on how many are asking and what they have to offer. I can imagine a later #1 this year and a #1 plus a #2 next or a #3 plus a #1 next...

 

 

52 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/nfl-draft-targets-2023?team=PHI   

Anyway looking over these possible targets they are totally ignoring the fact Lane could call it quits. of course these places don't know the team like we do

7 minutes ago, stine said:

  I highly doubt we would get 3  No. 1's for the 6th pick. It depends on how many are asking and what they have to offer. I can imagine a later #1 this year and a #1 plus a #2 next or a #3 plus a #1 next...

 

 

Trade 6 back to 9 or 10 you can add a later 1 probably in the teens so say 10,16,30? (3 round 1's) I'm thinking despite 2 good drafts in a row,this one would be the one where we cover the old guys replacements,so maybe use all 3 this year IDK. Howie is better than anyone on this board at finagling

Disappointed in Carr this year,with Adams he should be taking off,so will LV look at a QB in the draft? Carolina not thrilled with Mayfield, Colts, can't rule out the Wuss sending Wentz on his way either. Seattle, TB,NO all could be looking for a new QB,so should be tons of leverage there. So there are 6 QB possibles. Houston,so that's 7 

Robbie Anderson traded to AZ

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-turnover-margin-huge-reason-theyre-6-0