Or score in the 4th Qtr.... :)

 

Fans have been focusing on the returners, but they've really needed better help from their blockers.

Not an exciting weekend. PSU will get clobbered by OSU. Think the gnats have been a little lucky in some of their wins and could fall to the hawks. Most interested to see what changes Siri makes this wk. 4 man fronts? Quinn may come in rotation for a few wks. Most likely the only game I'll watch. 

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie doesn't draft CB's that high and we really suffered when Lane was out

 

9 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

Kind of agree, but see the need for a young CB talent as more immediate than RT. I'll be content with 4 good talented selections and a few good 7th Rd/UDFA prospects.

CB and OT will be competing priorities, no doubt. Aside from Maddox, what DB of note has Howie drafted? Maybe we can uncover a rugby player that can be molded into one next year?

1 hour ago, Crazy Legs said:

 

CB and OT will be competing priorities, no doubt. Aside from Maddox, what DB of note has Howie drafted? Maybe we can uncover a rugby player that can be molded into one next year?

Jones(injured) in round 2 that year. Zech was a 4th rounder I believe. So despite what we "need" I try to "think like Howie" . He may go for a DB in the 3rd,but he has shown time and again he is not comfortable picking high DB's or LB's. He loves good lines on both sides of the ball and will go after those guys whatever it takes. At least he went out and addressed the secondary/LB problem this time because we never gave Schwartz anywhere near the help we have given Gannon and the best thing is Howie has nailed 2 drafts in a row,one more "perfect" draft will make this team good for a long while. BTW welcome to the bored lol

2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Quinn had 1 this yr. Since da bears traded Khalil Mack, Quinn has been amongst the highest double teamed DE's in the NFL. Good luck doing that in our system, pick your poison they can't double everyone. Moving Graham inside and playing Quinn outside. Great move by HR

That makes sense. Also let's not forget DaBears are really not a contender to the point you give that little extra. He will be more motivated for a ring in Philly

14 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Released Tarron Jackson

https://sports.yahoo.com/eagles-release-tarron-jackson-trading-223452738.html

Wonder if we resign him to PS

Jackson has played 27 total snaps this season, is among the lowest-graded pass rushers on the roster, and will now be subject to waivers.

IDK we can probably find someone better to add to the PS(do we have room?)

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/eli-ricks-cb-alabama-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/   Possible late round 2 choice if his meds check out,but a kid to keep an eye on as bama plays tougher opponents

5 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

 

CB and OT will be competing priorities, no doubt. Aside from Maddox, what DB of note has Howie drafted? Maybe we can uncover a rugby player that can be molded into one next year?

DL obviously #1 priority.

6 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

We need to tackle better on D, block better on ST's to really take us to the next level.

What's the next level from 6-0 and clearly the best team in the conference?

7 hours ago, stine said:

Hoping you are right MJK. He has had an awesome career. Hopefully he can boost our pass rush. That has been our weakest arear on the D.....

Ask Washington about that

22 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ask Washington about that

Yes, over half our sacks came in that one game against Wentz.... Averaging just 1.6 per game otherwise.

Of course the run D is not great either....

14 minutes ago, stine said:

Yes, over half our sacks came in that one game against Wentz.... Averaging just 1.6 per game otherwise.

Of course the run D is not great either....

Idk... I think our D is playing well.  Forget all the fluff stats....they aren't giving up points.  Week 1 the exception.   A pick 6 and a blocked FG in there and still not giving up much. 

I think the addition of another pass rusher in the rotation helps tremendously.  Keeping guys fresh.  I'm not concerned with Quinn's sack #s.  We traded Mack Hollins, the DL from Penn State who never made the team...those type of players with round 4... we get near what Chris Long brought off the bench...that's huge.  Makes everyone else's job easier along the DL with more depth. 

I'm watching the games... I'm not saying to myself... " wow look how much time the opposing QB has to look for an open WR"    to me, it's 3rd and 7, im good with an incomplete pass forced by a rush...don't need a sack.   Either way they punt. I'm good with that 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tyrion-Davis-Price-RB-LSU   Would be fine (later in a RBBC) SF may turn him loose anyway after getting CMC. Stash on the PS maybe for now. He's a bigger back at 232. OR I would offer a round 6 or 7 for him, they won't be using him even if they keep him. He would be RB 5 no doubt. Maybe he is better than our PS RB we have now. if we trade he would have to go on the 53. I would try to avoid that if possible. If we draft a RB higher next draft we can cut him loose if we need to,but all hands on deck for the run we're going to make

Davis-Price would be direct competition for Sermon, then again they are different type backs which I feel we could use a little diversity rather than all the clones we have now. He is definitely better than Brooks(PS) but not sure he would warrant a roster spot unless he can beat out Sermon. Still if we are going to make a run and we are going to continue to employ the "burn the clock" strategy, this is a nice 232 pound road grader that can do just that. Maybe we don't need another RB, but he is still an upgrade in the room over Brooks, if we lose 2 making a post season run. We all know how we suffer losing 2 players at any 1 position, so more insurance. Maybe he will be cut loose by SF IDK. We have(I think) 4 WR's on the PS. We don't need than many,cut one and stash Price there. See if he can work his way onto a roster spot 

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Jones(injured) in round 2 that year. Zech was a 4th rounder I believe. So despite what we "need" I try to "think like Howie" . He may go for a DB in the 3rd,but he has shown time and again he is not comfortable picking high DB's or LB's. He loves good lines on both sides of the ball and will go after those guys whatever it takes. At least he went out and addressed the secondary/LB problem this time because we never gave Schwartz anywhere near the help we have given Gannon and the best thing is Howie has nailed 2 drafts in a row,one more "perfect" draft will make this team good for a long while. BTW welcome to the bored lol

I confirm the pattern that the Eagles have exhibited over the last 20 years, with the lone 2nd round gamble taken on a highly rated prospect. However, I also recall that the Eagles had 2 Pro Bowl veteran cornerbacks when they drafted 3 defensive backs in the first 2 rounds in 2002. Two years later, they started in the Super Bowl. It's not written in stone that they won't draft DB early, if the need is apparent. Prior to this year, we've been applying band-aids until we lucked upon Bradberry.  Oh yes, almost forgot Malcom Jenkins also. He solidified our backfield in another Super Bowl.

BTW, I go back at least 15 years...when Tom Lawler used to entertain us with his outstanding knowledge of the college draft prospects.

1 hour ago, stine said:

Yes, over half our sacks came in that one game against Wentz.... Averaging just 1.6 per game otherwise.

Of course the run D is not great either....

Our D isn't "weak" per se. I agree though that the DL would be the weakest. 

As far as the Washington game…Wentz holds the ball too long looking for that blockbuster play every snap. That extra 1-2 seconds that he holds on to the ball makes a HUGE difference in allowing the pass rush to get home. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

DL obviously #1 priority.

YES!!! And I am praying that Myles Murphy won't be swallowed-up before we get a shot at him. He appears to be your all-around prototype Pro Bowl defensive end.

On 10/26/2022 at 3:25 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW AJ was our 3rd choice,so Howie was busy looking for a FA WR's long before this trade even went down. I assume at that point the decision was made that DAVIS was our guy and that OLAVE would have to be bypassed as our first pick.(both were my round 1 choices for us),so it's not too hard to see we were all in on Davis and that we would need to seek a bookend with Smith. I guess 3rd choice are not the right words,but let's just say there were other FA WR's being considered. When someone said "Hurts brought AJ here",that is also fallacy as Howie was looking at all possibilities and in fact HOWIE brought AJ here. It was "nice" Hurts had worked out with him and probably helped the situation, but I know we were looking at others. This is a business not who Hurts' buddies are

I think you made the case for saying how Hurts bailed us out by actually bringing his guy here. Rosie was looking at all the WR options. But FA wasn’t good. The draft WR we had to trade up for to get because they were out of reach. So Hurts recruited him to come here. You’d think helped convince Rosie to get him and pay him.

What I heard you saying FL was that Rosie was searching real hard at every WR option and was striking out.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... I think our D is playing well.  Forget all the fluff stats....they aren't giving up points.  Week 1 the exception.   A pick 6 and a blocked FG in there and still not giving up much. 

I think the addition of another pass rusher in the rotation helps tremendously.  Keeping guys fresh.  I'm not concerned with Quinn's sack #s.  We traded Mack Hollins, the DL from Penn State who never made the team...those type of players with round 4... we get near what Chris Long brought off the bench...that's huge.  Makes everyone else's job easier along the DL with more depth. 

Huh? You mean Shareef Miller? Mack Collins is alive and well in LV. He was a WR that excels on special teams.

On 10/26/2022 at 3:36 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

yeah I said that too. it seems Howie is not comfortable drafting those or CB's or LB's. Still need some younger linemen,but I think Howie needs to back fill at those 3 spots(or re-sign guys we have) because it seems we are going to start paying Hurts,so we need to get as many young players and draft picks as possible to avoid paying them also. IDK which young CB's or S' will be FA's next year.but thats where I would go if I was Howie. WR is locked in for 3 more years after this. We paid AJ and Smith is still on his rook. IDK if we pay Quez or replace him. Sanders could be expendable also. We should be fine if we can clear off some dead money

Would Quez want to stay? I’d think we’d like to keep him. But he seems an after thought right now. Of coarse and injury happens and he’s right back in the thick of things. I’d think he believes he is being underutilized here. I would think he pictures himself as at least a number two.

7 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

 

CB and OT will be competing priorities, no doubt. Aside from Maddox, what DB of note has Howie drafted? Maybe we can uncover a rugby player that can be molded into one next year?

Epps

7 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

 

CB and OT will be competing priorities, no doubt. Aside from Maddox, what DB of note has Howie drafted? Maybe we can uncover a rugby player that can be molded into one next year?

There are a couple that turned out well…after they went elsewhere

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

I'm watching the games... I'm not saying to myself... " wow look how much time the opposing QB has to look for an open WR"    to me, it's 3rd and 7, im good with an incomplete pass forced by a rush...don't need a sack.   Either way they punt. I'm good with that 

Sometimes the sacks come because the coverage is so tight.