6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Jackson has played 27 total snaps this season, is among the lowest-graded pass rushers on the roster, and will now be subject to waivers.

IDK we can probably find someone better to add to the PS(do we have room?)

Dumb move. Proved right from the start he belongs in this league….even though from a smaller school. Had to work it out with him to take a PS spot. 

I’m thinking Tarron is starter material. But was a quality rotation guy. Showed sone pass rush prowess I thought. Not as stout as Barnett….but I thought actually brought more to the table. Disappointing move here. But I’ll just assume they have it worked out where he isn’t going anywhere.

7 hours ago, Crazy Legs said:

 

CB and OT will be competing priorities, no doubt. Aside from Maddox, what DB of note has Howie drafted? Maybe we can uncover a rugby player that can be molded into one next year?

Rasul Douglas

1 hour ago, stine said:

Yes, over half our sacks came in that one game against Wentz.... Averaging just 1.6 per game otherwise.

Of course the run D is not great either....

Just so happy we aren’t on the other side of that anymore. Can’t believe how many wanted to keep him so bad…and blamed everything on anybody else.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... I think our D is playing well.  Forget all the fluff stats....they aren't giving up points.  Week 1 the exception.   A pick 6 and a blocked FG in there and still not giving up much. 

I think the addition of another pass rusher in the rotation helps tremendously.  Keeping guys fresh.  I'm not concerned with Quinn's sack #s.  We traded Mack Hollins, the DL from Penn State who never made the team...those type of players with round 4... we get near what Chris Long brought off the bench...that's huge.  Makes everyone else's job easier along the DL with more depth. 

Think we can clearly say the decision two different times to pay for Barnett the last two seasons was unwise

41 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

I confirm the pattern that the Eagles have exhibited over the last 20 years, with the lone 2nd round gamble taken on a highly rated prospect. However, I also recall that the Eagles had 2 Pro Bowl veteran cornerbacks when they drafted 3 defensive backs in the first 2 rounds in 2002. Two years later, they started in the Super Bowl. It's not written in stone that they won't draft DB early, if the need is apparent. Prior to this year, we've been applying band-aids until we lucked upon Bradberry.  Oh yes, almost forgot Malcom Jenkins also. He solidified our backfield in another Super Bowl.

BTW, I go back at least 15 years...when Tom Lawler used to entertain us with his outstanding knowledge of the college draft prospects.

They always have a plan and philosophy. But it changes with the times. Safety were cheap….undervalued in the market. They also were seemingly available to attain in the market. So they moved accordingly. The S market blew up now. 20 mil a season. So you gotta adjust accordingly. 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

DL obviously #1 priority.

Our identity…the trenches aren’t the sexy picks. Don’t see advertising and huge banners to sell tickets with the trench guys as much.

41 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Our D isn't "weak" per se. I agree though that the DL would be the weakest. 

As far as the Washington game…Wentz holds the ball too long looking for that blockbuster play every snap. That extra 1-2 seconds that he holds on to the ball makes a HUGE difference in allowing the pass rush to get home. 

I believe he just thinks too much instead of letting it rip. Seemed like here he was considering which guy he was looking at in the progression before throwing. Injuries. Turn overs. Think it all adds up to a delay. Gunshy. Let’s let it rip more. But he just never throws a ball away and lives for another down. He sack fumbles.

Not sure I would have appreciated Hurts throwing the ball away as much….if it wasn’t  right after Wentz. Hurts really escapes well….but he’s smart and makes sure he’s outside the pocket so it can be grounding.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Epps

There are a couple that turned out well…after they went elsewhere

Epps was released by another team. Poyer perhaps.

Were you thinking of Jaiquan Jarrett, Curtis Marsh, Brandon Boykin, Earl Wolff, Jaylen Watkins,  Ed Reynolds, Eric Rowe, JaCory Shepherd, Randall Evans, Blake Countess or wait a minute, did you mean Jalen Mills? 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... I think our D is playing well.  Forget all the fluff stats....they aren't giving up points.  Week 1 the exception.   A pick 6 and a blocked FG in there and still not giving up much. 

I think the addition of another pass rusher in the rotation helps tremendously.  Keeping guys fresh.  I'm not concerned with Quinn's sack #s.  We traded Mack Hollins, the DL from Penn State who never made the team...those type of players with round 4... we get near what Chris Long brought off the bench...that's huge.  Makes everyone else's job easier along the DL with more depth. 

Tarron was playing …but we dropped him now. Just being accurrate about how we were rotating. Gannon likes to be super specialized against whatever the O brings out it seems to me. So really was different each week.

Just now, Crazy Legs said:

Epps was released by another team. Poyer perhaps.

Were you thinking of Jaiquan Jarrett, Curtis Marsh, Brandon Boykin, Earl Wolff, Jaylen Watkins,  Ed Reynolds, Eric Rowe, JaCory Shepherd, Randall Evans, Blake Countess or wait a minute, did you mean Jalen Mills? 

Whelp….you got me there. Got a give it to you…when you’re right…you’re right.

45 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

YES!!! And I am praying that Myles Murphy won't be swallowed-up before we get a shot at him. He appears to be your all-around prototype Pro Bowl defensive end.

Over Anderson?

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Over Anderson?

IMHO, I consider him as more an OLB in a classic 3/4 defense.

1 hour ago, Crazy Legs said:

I confirm the pattern that the Eagles have exhibited over the last 20 years, with the lone 2nd round gamble taken on a highly rated prospect. However, I also recall that the Eagles had 2 Pro Bowl veteran cornerbacks when they drafted 3 defensive backs in the first 2 rounds in 2002. Two years later, they started in the Super Bowl. It's not written in stone that they won't draft DB early, if the need is apparent. Prior to this year, we've been applying band-aids until we lucked upon Bradberry.  Oh yes, almost forgot Malcom Jenkins also. He solidified our backfield in another Super Bowl.

BTW, I go back at least 15 years...when Tom Lawler used to entertain us with his outstanding knowledge of the college draft prospects.

Slay also,which once again proves Howie would rather go get experienced vets than draft them. What happened 15 years ago is irrelevant. new team owner,different coaches/staff etc. If you aren't having faith in your developmental staff you don't draft them because that is a wasted pick. So I guess 20 years of precedent isn't enough? Howie isn't going to draft a CB in round 1 or 2

1 hour ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Our D isn't "weak" per se. I agree though that the DL would be the weakest. 

As far as the Washington game…Wentz holds the ball too long looking for that blockbuster play every snap. That extra 1-2 seconds that he holds on to the ball makes a HUGE difference in allowing the pass rush to get home. 

Wasn't really extra 1-2 seconds in Washington game... Minnesota game either.   Our D line depth makes everything else happen.    What game have you watched thinking we are taking 10 years to get to the QB?

1 hour ago, Crazy Legs said:

YES!!! And I am praying that Myles Murphy won't be swallowed-up before we get a shot at him. He appears to be your all-around prototype Pro Bowl defensive end.

LOL that was the pick I made????

53 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What I heard you saying FL was that Rosie was searching real hard at every WR option and was striking out.

For #1 WRs... the meeting they had in the offseason where Siri basically says...  " I'm sold" in 2 seconds when AJ Brown came up.  

I like the fact they went with a vet , proven #1 WR over any rookie.    But I'm not a college football fan, so I always doubt the rookies until they show something.   

56 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

Huh? You mean Shareef Miller? Mack Collins is alive and well in LV. He was a WR that excels on special teams.

Hollins????

55 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

Huh? You mean Shareef Miller? Mack Collins is alive and well in LV. He was a WR that excels on special teams.

Yeah... go on with all the studs we drafted round 4.... I'll take the proven vet to help the DL all day over any of those guys.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Slay also,which once again proves Howie would rather go get experienced vets than draft them. What happened 15 years ago is irrelevant. new team owner,different coaches/staff etc. If you aren't having faith in your developmental staff you don't draft them because that is a wasted pick. So I guess 20 years of precedent isn't enough? Howie isn't going to draft a CB in round 1 or 2

Development staff is all new too. Siri supposedly the WR whisperer….as his forte.

But he’s been drafting plenty of WR

Kirk was in my mind going to be a great option as a FA. But Jags threw everything at him. Probably double want I was going we’d pay.

Couple other vet options didn’t work either. Robert Woods comes to mind

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Wasn't really extra 1-2 seconds in Washington game... Minnesota game either.   Our D line depth makes everything else happen.    What game have you watched thinking we are taking 10 years to get to the QB?

LOL where did I say 10 yrs? The DL is good and adding another rotator in Quinn should be a great benefit in depth and keeping fresh legs. But you should know as well as I do that Wentz holds the ball too long. That was the main factor for the 9 sack day is what I was pointing out. 

But I believe he was clearly looking at the draft also. Think he read it like many…that Burks was a dropoff from the top options. They weren’t going to fall.

Really think he believed he was being smart trading with the Saints. We still had 15. So we got our guy ahead of them. But they made another move

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

For #1 WRs... the meeting they had in the offseason where Siri basically says...  " I'm sold" in 2 seconds when AJ Brown came up.  

I like the fact they went with a vet , proven #1 WR over any rookie.    But I'm not a college football fan, so I always doubt the rookies until they show something.   

AJ Brown agreed to Howie's terms(and had worked out all summer with Hurts). Still, we tried to get 2 others, but Howie stuck to his limits and wasn't going to budge. All rookies have something to prove,but you still draft them. Guys coming out of college are much more NFL ready than even 5 years ago

So whatever brilliance you believed by putting them at 16 while keeping 15….went out the window. We had 18 also. So would think Rosie purposeful likes having the Saints at 16. Knew what they were up to. So you could take a guy at 15….that would have been gone. And still get your guy at 18. Possibly taking the 18 guy being higher on your actual board. But wisely gambling on who comes off the board those two picks.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

AJ Brown agreed to Howie's terms(and had worked out all summer with Hurts). Still, we tried to get 2 others, but Howie stuck to his limits and wasn't going to budge. All rookies have something to prove,but you still draft them

To me it looked like we were stuck. Couldn’t get a FA. Couldn’t get the top tier WR in draft. So Hurts bailed us out. Have considered that Hurts maybe put the idea in AJ mind to force a trade because he had his payday lined up. So maybe AJ even got a bit nasty with top guys in Tennessee to accomplish it.

So yeah, Hurts was recruiting him