8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts worked with Brown over the summer-co-incidence? I'm wondering if Howie told Hurts "go work with Brown" I know they were friends,but seems odd he would just pick him to work with without knowing Tennessee was making him unhappy. perhaps Hurts found that out working out with him,replayed that to Howie. I'm sure there is SO much going on we don't know about

Btw... what is this " summer" you are talking about?    Being the draft is in April, are you referring to summer 2021?   Like during camp? Prior to last season where Tennessee couldn't offer any new contract to Brown yet? 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think you have it backwards some here. Don’t think Rosie told Hurts to workout with his best friend this summer. I think Hurts had the inside track of all AJ was thinking because he’s friends with him. Hurts relayed the info to Rosie. Then perhaps Rosie instructed AJ how he could get his payday now from the Eagles since Titans were balking.

I think you all have it confused.   The deal was made in April...this Summer Brown was already an Eagle.  Last Summer Brown couldn't have received a new contract yet.  

I think it's clear the Eagles knew they needed to improve the position and Brown fits perfectly with Smith and in the offense.   I think it's clear there were guys who were coming on last year of rookie deal .. other teams have to make a decision on paying or still getting good compensation.  Eagles had the 3 picks, they were in position to pay more for a vet WR.  

It makes sense to take the proven guy over a college " prospect" 

I mean, in theory Buffalo could have Justin Jefferson, buy they traded the pick used for him for Diggs.   Diggs was the known.  

You got 3 draft picks...you can trade one for a known. Especially a 24 year old.  I  don't think it's rocket science.  Just great job executing both the trade and the contract in that time. 

Chase Claypool would be a huge move the Cowboys could possibly make. I believe Odell Beckham is very much eyeing going there. No idea how close he actually is in returning from his injury however.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I think you all have it confused.   The deal was made in April...this Summer Brown was already an Eagle.  Last Summer Brown couldn't have received a new contract yet.  

I think it's clear the Eagles knew they needed to improve the position and Brown fits perfectly with Smith and in the offense.   I think it's clear there were guys who were coming on last year of rookie deal .. other teams have to make a decision on paying or still getting good compensation.  Eagles had the 3 picks, they were in position to pay more for a vet WR.  

It makes sense to take the proven guy over a college " prospect" 

I mean, in theory Buffalo could have Justin Jefferson, buy they traded the pick used for him for Diggs.   Diggs was the known.  

You got 3 draft picks...you can trade one for a known. Especially a 24 year old.  I  don't think it's rocket science.  Just great job executing both the trade and the contract in that time. 

This makes half sense. By your theory you wouldn’t make draft picks however. Just pay every proven vet. Salary cap makes this impossible. There’s a balance in there. Not sure how to explain where the concrete line would be between draft pick and vet.

Seems everybody believed we tried to trade for Ridley. Made our play for some FA WR. Top guy I believe was Kirk, who got drastically overpaid. 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So if no WR was taken in the draft before pick 18…..do we trade for AJ still?

Yes...yes... yes...yes....yes...and yes.

Because according to EVERY report the trade was being worked on all day. Just the contact getting officially done takes a little time.  It's not like a free agent signing where they can just agree on terms and have the contract written up over the next couple of days.  Both sides needed that locked in prior to the trade being official.   

I just don’t see how anyone sees a rookie unknown being a better selection than Brown... a proven #1, pro bowl guy?   Who would you prefer over Brown from this rookie class?   Especially if you want to see if it's worth paying your QB? 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Now we are about to see terrible officiating against us…just watch. I’m obsessed with the Eagles. Love some football. The league getting completely shady by deliberately and falsely taking us down….that would be the only thing to force me to give it up. I’ve clearly noticed the BS calls Tom Brady always generates from them. He’s been the most obvious example of their meddling.

Dude..  relax!  

Pretty sure we very much were considering top draft WR options. Burk was a dropoff from the top tier. Assumptions were the others would be off the board before our pick. So then you are comparing trading up for one of them to the now materializing AJ trade. Also considering trading up for Davis. That’s what makes the AJ move seem like the obvious move to me. All these factors played in.

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Not to be negative but we've really only faced 2 good teams - boyz and Vikings, the latter as they beat Miami, but we played them wk 2 before most teams get their acts together. Looking ahead the gnats have been very lucky in their wins, so. Tenn hasn't beaten a quality team. Keeping an eye on the 2 WR hungry teams left on our schedule - GB and dullass.

Right.  But we play who is on the schedule.    Right now there is no reason we don't get the #1 seed.  It comes down to playoffs.   It's why I want to see the whole season before making future decisions.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Right.  But we play who is on the schedule.    Right now there is no reason we don't get the #1 seed.  It comes down to playoffs.   It's why I want to see the whole season before making future decisions.

Let’s try and win the division first. We don’t even have some major lead in the East. We might be a wild card team.

An ACL in Feb makes it pretty doubtful for an OBJ comeback this yr. Jones thinks himself a magician, talking shiny things while doing something else - or nothing at all - as long as peeps keep talking about dem boyz. Whatever if they were to make a move now would be the time in their off week. The usual names are all out their, also FA's -  Will Fuller, John Ross, Antonio Brown, Laquon Treadwell. Personally I'd like to see them get Brown as he'd disrupt them from within.

Cowboys are 6-2. I’m fairly confident they are about to make a blockbuster trade. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-aj-brown-and-jalen-hurts-have-been-friends-alabama-recruiting-trip  See? It began as a joke. Hurts mentioned it to Howie,who made it happen,which debunks the "Hurts got him here" false theory. Howie wanted to help Hurts however he could, so he checked out if there was truth to the "joke" and got him the guy he would be comfortable with. Hurts didn't recruit him,Howie did,so let's stop the debunked claim

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This makes half sense. By your theory you wouldn’t make draft picks however. Just pay every proven vet. Salary cap makes this impossible. There’s a balance in there. Not sure how to explain where the concrete line would be between draft pick and vet.

Really... by my theory when you have 3.. you can trade one for a known.  Especially a 24 year old at a key position....which I believe #1 WR is a key position.    I don't believe college players will be a guarantee like it seems a lot of you on here do.   I'll ask...you can trade AJ for any rookie WR, are you doing it?  I wouldn't.  

You build your team, draft is the key element IMO.  You need to hit on picks.  If you can swap a pick for a young proven vet...why not?  Especially when you have 3.   

3 assets I think used perfectly.   1.move up to get your target.  2.  Trade for a proven guy at a key position.   3. Get more assets in the future.    

There is no theory ... a random drug test happens in the league.   Not everything needs a read between the lines conspiracy , Hollywood movie idea behind it.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s try and win the division first. We don’t even have some major lead in the East. We might be a wild card team.

We have a 2 game lead... which is basically 3... with a cake schedule.  Why are you setting the bar so low for this team?   Relax and enjoy, your boy isn't going to mess it up ...at least not regular season.  Let's say we lose 3 games...highly unlikely.... but you see Dallas or NY only losing one more?   Come on now.   

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Btw... what is this " summer" you are talking about?    Being the draft is in April, are you referring to summer 2021?   Like during camp? Prior to last season where Tennessee couldn't offer any new contract to Brown yet? 

They were friends for 5 years before he came here

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pretty sure we very much were considering top draft WR options. Burk was a dropoff from the top tier. Assumptions were the others would be off the board before our pick. So then you are comparing trading up for one of them to the now materializing AJ trade. Also considering trading up for Davis. That’s what makes the AJ move seem like the obvious move to me. All these factors played in.

Again...pretty sure the Brown trade didn't happen in the short time after a WR was drafted..

Idk..I think Hurts was watching the draft and called Howie and Brown on a 3 way call.  Put the deal together and brought in Tennessee on the conference call... typed up the contract himself too. 

Why is it hard to understand Brown was the target prior to the draft?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They were friends for 5 years before he came here

Sure... but which summer?  Players are friends all over the league... last summer were you sure Hurts was the long term guy after 4 starts and sure AJ wouldn't get a contract offer from Tennessee after the season?

Dullaz put up 49 points,so IDK that they need a "blockbuster trade"? Seems like 49 is enough. Pollard ran amok. They didn't have their top TE playing either

boyz could go the rest of the way w/o a loss. Win the div 1st - yeah. Surely our FO is looking at who we may face in the playoffs, their strengths / weaknesses and how we can improve this team.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sure... but which summer?  Players are friends all over the league... last summer were you sure Hurts was the long term guy after 4 starts and sure AJ wouldn't get a contract offer from Tennessee after the season?

Not saying that. I'm saying as friends I'm sure they tossed a football around at each others houses for 5 years. They didn't "technically "work together" they were just having fun between friends. They joked about playing together someday and maybe somewhere along the way AJ mentioned he would play with him if a deal could be worked. When Tennessee dithered around, Howie jumped in and made it happen because Hurts mentioned him

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sure... but which summer?  Players are friends all over the league... last summer were you sure Hurts was the long term guy after 4 starts and sure AJ wouldn't get a contract offer from Tennessee after the season?

Howie got Hurts who he wanted in hopes that would give us what we needed to help Hurts become our future starter. Even if Hurts was not the guy,we still needed to replace Reagor regardless of if we kept Hurts or got someone else and Howie saw his chance to get a top WR whether Hurts was the QB or someone else. Hurts was given a crew even I could look good with

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not saying that. I'm saying as friends I'm sure they tossed a football around at each others houses for 5 years. They didn't "technically "work together" they were just having fun between friends. They joked about playing together someday and maybe somewhere along the way AJ mentioned he would play with him if a deal could be worked. When Tennessee dithered around, Howie jumped in and made it happen because Hurts mentioned him

So when they brought in Siri during the offseason to discuss free agent and possible trade targets on the last year of their deals... it was because Hurts was throwing a football with Brown?   

How about all the other WRs they met to discuss as options?   

Like am I to understand that Howie would have skipped over Brown without Hurts interjection?  But yet every other guy on the last year of a deal and possible trade target they didn't need Hurts to tell Howie?   Brown was the only guy Howie didn't know was coming up on the last year of his deal?   Howie needed Hurts to tell him that?

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie got Hurts who he wanted in hopes that would give us what we needed to help Hurts become our future starter. Even if Hurts was not the guy,we still needed to replace Reagor regardless of if we kept Hurts or got someone else and Howie saw his chance to get a top WR whether Hurts was the QB or someone else

I think Howie got what the coach wanted, and pretty much every one who wants to see the Eagles succeed.  A #1 WR.  Not a college " prospect "  

Dullaz/Gnats game will be interesting. Barkley playing well now that he is finally 100%,but I think the Dullaz pass rush will get to them