5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We have a game still against the Cowboys. If they beat us in that matchup….which is a real possibility….nothing cushy about our lead in the division. Great start….but our division is much more difficult this year. 

If it was 4 years ago ... and New England had this lead... you guys would all be saying they have an easy schedule and would easily win the division.   Now it's all being afraid the Eagles will lose the lead vs this schedule?    Lol.    

Come on now.  Especially for those thinking so highly of the QBs ability and leadership.   A collapse now doesn't make sense to his stans.

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So they would have put all that work in with the trade , doing the contract...  but if a WR would have fallen in the draft...they wouldn't have pulled the trigger,they would have went with the rookie?

I’m not really saying that is true. Just wondering and contemplating if they waited until all options they considered better were gone. Both of us believe they already had the trade compensation worked out before the draft. So why wait? The story is that the new contract was being negotiated up until the pick. I can believe something like that. Gave Rosie some leverage of deal or no deal before we pull the trigger. So he could force AJ agent to not screw around. But not sone unbelievable theory that they liked some draft picks enough that was why they waited.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just unbelievably naive for you not to consider the most obvious inside track Hurts provided here. That extra back channel. It’s so hard for you(or any others) to consider the obvious….that AJ and Hurts discussed AJ’s contract negotiations with Tennessee? Or that knowing the details of the Titans negotiations have Rosie the knowledge to counter this? And that AJ having the confidence knowing we were very ready to pay him gave him the power to walk over whatever Titans were offering? This all just seems so very super convenient. I guess you are just striking it up to coincidence. All this just went down without Hurts knowing anything or playing any role. Instead of him being completely pivotal in getting us/him a WR after all other great options were gone.

Ham...incredibly naive for you to think Howie would not have called Tennessee and inquired about Brown ... you think this would have been the one time he didn't call?   Yet you want him to sign every other guy and complain when a player signs with another team ... yet you always hear the Eagles in the mix.  

But but ....this one time Joe, how can you be so naive not to see Howie would NOT have made the call to Tennessee?

Who is being naive?  You see something happen over and over again, yet still don't see it happening this time?    

Same people who expect a LB to be drafted round 1?    Clueless

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

If it was 4 years ago ... and New England had this lead... you guys would all be saying they have an easy schedule and would easily win the division.   Now it's all being afraid the Eagles will lose the lead vs this schedule?    Lol.    

Come on now.  Especially for those thinking so highly of the QBs ability and leadership.   A collapse now doesn't make sense to his stans.

Two game lead on a team will still play….that’s far from any lock. I enjoy the optimism and letting my fantasy run of us going on a dynasty run. But reality…Long season still ahead. So much will change before we get to the end. We’ll see how it goes down. Looks great right now….but haven’t even gotten halfway yet.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So what other teams were bidding against us for AJ? Nobody else league wide would give up a first and third for him?

Ohhhhh.... so we were the only team to ask... all due to Hurts?  Not Howie?   Do you think teams would have given up those assets without having the other draft capital...and then pay Brown?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Two game lead on a team will still play….that’s far from any lock. I enjoy the optimism and letting my fantasy run of us going on a dynasty run. But reality…Long season still ahead. So much will change before we get to the end. We’ll see how it goes down. Looks great right now….but haven’t even gotten halfway yet.

Ok...we lose to Dallas...now what.  They undefeated and we lose 2 more games? 

dullass could also be a wildcard team

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ham...incredibly naive for you to think Howie would not have called Tennessee and inquired about Brown ... you think this would have been the one time he didn't call?   Yet you want him to sign every other guy and complain when a player signs with another team ... yet you always hear the Eagles in the mix.  

But but ....this one time Joe, how can you be so naive not to see Howie would NOT have made the call to Tennessee?

Who is being naive?  You see something happen over and over again, yet still don't see it happening this time?    

Same people who expect a LB to be drafted round 1?    Clueless

Crazy for me to think Hurts had any conversation or inside knowledge about his friend. I’m sure Rosie never even spoke to Hurts about the trade. All secretly Rosie all by himself. Who else was bidding against us? I heard nothing. A player of AJ caliber and not massive bidding war….nobody could believe Titans would trade such a great player. Just stupid of me to consider we had insider information. Rosie would never pry open every angle to make decisions.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not really saying that is true. Just wondering and contemplating if they waited until all options they considered better were gone. Both of us believe they already had the trade compensation worked out before the draft. So why wait? The story is that the new contract was being negotiated up until the pick. I can believe something like that. Gave Rosie some leverage of deal or no deal before we pull the trigger. So he could force AJ agent to not screw around. But not sone unbelievable theory that they liked some draft picks enough that was why they waited.

I think you imply " other options were better "   I don't think other options were better than Brown.   I especially don't think this particular Eagles front office in 2022 wanted to draft another WR in round 1.   The possibility of Reagor, Agholor... vs Brown is easy to see why they wanted the guaranteed star NFL player vs the college star/ unknown NFL WR.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ohhhhh.... so we were the only team to ask... all due to Hurts?  Not Howie?   Do you think teams would have given up those assets without having the other draft capital...and then pay Brown?

Ok...we lose to Dallas...now what.  They undefeated and we lose 2 more games? 

You are saying no other team would give up a first and third and pay AJ? When I heard the trade go through….I thought…what a deal.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Crazy for me to think Hurts had any conversation or inside knowledge about his friend. I’m sure Rosie never even spoke to Hurts about the trade. All secretly Rosie all by himself. Who else was bidding against us? I heard nothing. A player of AJ caliber and not massive bidding war….nobody could believe Titans would trade such a great player. Just stupid of me to consider we had insider information. Rosie would never pry open every angle to make decisions.

Not crazy at all to think anything about Hurts... just crazy to think Howie would have missed it...this one time.  I think calls would have been made regardless of Hurts.   That's what Howie does for a living.   

 

Just now, joemas6 said:

I think you imply " other options were better "   I don't think other options were better than Brown.   I especially don't think this particular Eagles front office in 2022 wanted to draft another WR in round 1.   The possibility of Reagor, Agholor... vs Brown is easy to see why they wanted the guaranteed star NFL player vs the college star/ unknown NFL WR.

I didn’t say I thought other options were better. But I did ponder the possibility of what the FO was thinking. I do think AJ was the call. But sorry to just ponder…with the known facts….what was the truth? Facts are we didn’t announce the trade before the draft. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are saying no other team would give up a first and third and pay AJ? When I heard the trade go through….I thought…what a deal.

I thought great deal for us... who else in April you see making the deal?   

You see the Saints doing it?  Cap wise they want to put that much into WR position?   Which other team you see doing it?  KC after trading Hill?  Or Miami after getting Hill?

Just name a team you think would have traded those picks at that time?  

Maybe Dallas after taking the cap hit on Cooper and paying Gallup with Lamb coming up soon?

Maybe Chargers,  they need WR?  Who else are we missing?

Name some teams?

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Not crazy at all to think anything about Hurts... just crazy to think Howie would have missed it...this one time.  I think calls would have been made regardless of Hurts.   That's what Howie does for a living.   

 

So you don’t see anyway that through Hurts Rosie manipulated the Titans contract negotiations with him?

Just now, joemas6 said:

I thought great deal for us... who else in April you see making the deal?   

You see the Saints doing it?  Cap wise they want to put that much into WR position?   Which other team you see doing it?  KC after trading Hill?  Or Miami after getting Hill?

Just name a team you think would have traded those picks at that time?  

Maybe Dallas after taking the cap hit on Cooper and paying Gallup with Lamb coming up soon?

Maybe Chargers,  they need WR?  Who else are we missing?

Name some teams?

Too much for me to back research every teams exact situation. Both of us thought great deal. That alone should tell you others would have done it…if not even more.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I didn’t say I thought other options were better. But I did ponder the possibility of what the FO was thinking. I do think AJ was the call. But sorry to just ponder…with the known facts….what was the truth? Facts are we didn’t announce the trade before the draft. 

So let me ask...  announcing the trade before the draft would have benefitted which team...Tennessee or the Eagles?   

You can see why nothing was said right?  One would be naive to not see why both teams wouldn't want to show their cards before the draft.

Bills only have 707 yds rushing with Allen accounting for 257 of that. Wonder if they'll compete to ads a RB?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you don’t see anyway that through Hurts Rosie manipulated the Titans contract negotiations with him?

How did Howie manipulate contract negotiations between Tennessee and Brown?   He hypnotized the GM into not wanting to pay him.

This is awesome.... Hurts for no other reason can just be used to go tell Howie which organizations he doesn't want to pay players.   This is awesome... I need Hurts to come and use these tricks on my wife with Amazon.

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think the idea that Brown was not a target...but all the other guys with contracts coming up were...and then ignoring the sit down meeting they all talked about where Siri said move on to the next guy I'm already sold on AJ. ... I think is hilarious from fans who always say " Howie is always looking and talking with other teams etc"   

But Hurts was the guy who had to mention Brown...the one time Howie would have not called another team to ask about a guy who was in contract negotiations?  Howie would have missed that one if it wasn't for Hurts? 

IDK in that time frame would that be "meddling" I mean before the deal was made

2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Bills only have 707 yds rushing with Allen accounting for 257 of that. Wonder if they'll compete to ads a RB?

I think it's the blocking more so than the RBs.   Play calling too.   

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK in that time frame would that be "meddling" I mean before the deal was made

No, not if it's through hypnosis.   That's the method Hurts was able to teach Howie to use.   

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Crazy for me to think Hurts had any conversation or inside knowledge about his friend. I’m sure Rosie never even spoke to Hurts about the trade. All secretly Rosie all by himself. Who else was bidding against us? I heard nothing. A player of AJ caliber and not massive bidding war….nobody could believe Titans would trade such a great player. Just stupid of me to consider we had insider information. Rosie would never pry open every angle to make decisions.

Did you bother to read the article where it started as a JOKE? Or did you fail to do that? AJ was our 3rd try at getting a WR or do you ignore that as well???

Just saying because of the rumors of us looking at adding a RB. Having a triple threat QB has its' risks. He has to run in order to keep up with the threat of running. But how much is enough and is that other RB already on the team? We're also in contract yrs

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Two game lead on a team will still play….that’s far from any lock. I enjoy the optimism and letting my fantasy run of us going on a dynasty run. But reality…Long season still ahead. So much will change before we get to the end. We’ll see how it goes down. Looks great right now….but haven’t even gotten halfway yet.

And whom are all these powerhouse teams we will lose to???

1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

Just saying because of the rumors of us looking at adding a RB. Having a triple threat QB has its' risks. He has to run in order to keep up with the threat of running. But how much is enough and is that other RB already on the team? We're also in contract yrs

So who is RB #3? Can Scott be a 3 down back? Can Sanders? Gainwell showed a few flashes, but if he was reliable wouldn't we use him? If either Sanders or Scott goes down who do we have? Sermon is untested also. If we're going to make a SB run,we need that depth IMO

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Too much for me to back research every teams exact situation. Both of us thought great deal. That alone should tell you others would have done it…if not even more.

Not really ...you watch college ball and film on guys for hours... a few minutes to glance at cap situation and go back to look at the 2022 draft picks ....assuming you know the NFL enough to know good WRs on each team.  

It's not hard to see where the Eagles were the perfect team for Tennessee to work with.   

I mean in general you would think they would prefer to trade him to an NFC team.   In general you would think teams at the top of the draft wouldn't want to give up 2 good picks while understanding they have so much more to get.   In general you would understand not every team is in position to pay Brown.  

And the Saints trade.... allowed the extra 3rd for the Eagles.   They had extra picks in both of the rounds they traded to Tennessee...and both of those picks were earlier in each round. 

Yeah...it's not really rocket science to see there are things that eliminate teams from making trades.   Things from all sides...cap, picks and Tennessee preference.  All had to be there.

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I didn’t say I thought other options were better. But I did ponder the possibility of what the FO was thinking. I do think AJ was the call. But sorry to just ponder…with the known facts….what was the truth? Facts are we didn’t announce the trade before the draft. 

LMAO why would we announce if before the draft? That would be stupid AF.