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3 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Don't like losing Cain, guess it's because of Scotts' injury. Bodes well for Allen I guess.

Covey I saw took a few snaps at the end of the game….at WR.

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Titans GM Jon Robinson: "We got to a spot where it was going to be hard to get a deal done"

Some posts should come "Ancient History" warnings

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This is all I found from their GM about it. I’ll go ahead and assume you hear it as proving your point. I see it fitting what I’m saying exactly. My point was it is very possible we sabotaged and undercut their GM and got AJ to have easy reason to walk away and play extreme hardball. 

The Giants are projected to be around $52 million under the 2023 salary cap

Giants may consider themselves buyers right now although imo they don't have a shot at making the post season

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4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

The Giants are projected to be around $52 million under the 2023 salary cap

Giants may consider themselves buyers right now although imo they don't have a shot at making the post season

I’m not sold on the personnel yet. They grabbed a good coach unfortunately for us. If they make good decisions forward they’ll close the gap quickly. Gotta feel pretty good for their fans and team to be doing well and having such bright possibilities of their future. Really we could be the same for us cap wise with our current personnel. Imagine doing things my way and clearing the cap and then having a team like this. Being able to keep our good players….maybe even adding a piece or two next season. Not being so backloaded on contracts that with a contending team not only could we have cap to keep guys, sign guys….but then begin to backload contracts for more talent. That’s my vision. Having this type of level team to build from starting our dynasty. Think back to cowboys and Niners adding Neon Deion to their contending teams. The only teams that can even possibly consider this type plan are ones that have long term GMs. Can’t afford to wait if you don’t have any job security.

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This team has 61 mil in dead cap. Can you imagine if we weren’t saddled with that and the future dead money. I mean seriously….

Was just looking at that. 13 of that is Cox and teams are always going to carry some dead cap, but this is ridiculous. A lot of that will come off next yr, but when backloading contracts leave ouselves an out.

Bills had to activate their CB Tre'Davious White a few wks early as his 21 days were expiring. Haven't heard how they made room on their 53. They have that halfback style RB Zack Moss I mentioned earlier.

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2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Was just looking at that. 13 of that is Cox and teams are always going to carry some dead cap, but this is ridiculous. A lot of that will come off next yr, but when backloading contracts leave ouselves an out.

Rosie business as usual is spending years from now money for this year play. So we don’t have money the next couple seasons. Will force us to rework likely two of our biggest contracts. We have tons of contract players on this team. Then considering QB1’s payday. Rosie going to need to work some magic. But it really effects our options. Because he’ll be relying on contracts he can backload to 2025 and on. Which is doable…but you can’t sign just anybody. Very specific players and contracts you gotta fit in.

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Also believe this plays into the draft. Need to rely on draft picks for cap reasons. 

At least Hurts' money - whatever the contract turns out to be -  won't have to begin until the following yr

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4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Bills had to activate their CB Tre'Davious White a few wks early as his 21 days were expiring. Haven't heard how they made room on their 53. They have that halfback style RB Zack Moss I mentioned earlier.

Although we are undefeated….Bills have the best team. They are extremely focused on winning it all too. They should have already held that trophy. We won’t to do well in the postseason. Bills are SB or bust kind of hungry. Hoping we can find their sense of purpose. The pressure in Buffalo is enormous though. Goes to show being the best team isn’t enough. 

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2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

At least Hurts' money - whatever the contract turns out to be -  won't have to begin until the following yr

We all know it won’t be much then either ….cap wise that is. For one can’t even because their isn’t the cap room. But Rosie will probably set a whole new standard on backloaded contracts with him. Can’t even imagine what the cap hit in 2027 will be on Hurts. It will be way beyond any cap hits any single player remotely has taken up. It hasn’t even happened yet….but some things I feel very comfortable educated guess assuming.

Bills are still pretty vulnerable to the run. We just need to take away Diggs

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3 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Bills are still pretty vulnerable to the run. We just need to take away Diggs

I’m not sure taking away Diggs would be my plan. I think I’d just matchup and let it fly. All our DBs are capable of playing him solid. Bradberry or Slay…both are capable of breaking up his route or the pass…maybe even making a big play. So I’d actually consider giving him his plays but shutting everything else down. He’s absolutely incredible. Hard to imagine the Vikes let him walk. What were they thinking? I guess they believe they are great at drafting WR. That I can’t argue against. But if Diggs is all they have against us and we have one of those corners on him that’s nothing easy for them. Any WR do you really want to rely on throwing on Slay the whole game? You know how they have the All 22 camera view…I’d love to just watch the Slay Diggs matchup all game. Diggs would make plays…but I can’t imagine Slay doesn’t make his also.

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11 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Bills are still pretty vulnerable to the run. We just need to take away Diggs

I was just pointing out their experience advantage. We made the playoffs and got rocked on the road. They’ve tasted bitter defeat last couple years in the postseason. That’s why I was all about making the postseason last year. We got spanked….but I feel much better this year because of that experience. Still my biggest question about our team is on the coaches. Learned so much for so many years of AR. He’s so many steps ahead of our coaches in setting everything up. We really have nothing to say most any of our coaches are capable of championship caliber job. Steichen in San Diego was disappointing in big games. Gannon and Siri in Indy didn’t get it done either. Go right down the line of coaches under them. Every one has to prove he can. Seems like I’m the only one focused on this concern. Is everybody else that confident our coaches can win the big game? Nobody else here seems to mention coaching almost at all here.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Like I said contracts are tricky. If your base salary is 16 mil. You get a roster bonus of 2 mil. Workout bonus of 2 mil. Incentives of Pro Bowl 2 mil. Over 1,000 yards 2 mil. Over 8 TDs 2 mil. I’m skipping the signing bonus as that just makes things much more complicated(just for addition purposes). 
  Is the player getting 16 mil? 20 mil? 26 mil? Much easier in other sports. Would you choose this contract over a straight 20 mil guaranteed? So being educated enough about NFL contracts like we all are here….you can’t even accurately say AJ was offered 16 mil per year. It was likely a complicated contract of four years and whatever million dollars. So much in signing. So much guaranteed. So much in incentives. Then even the incentives you need to balance on how easily they are achievable.

Yes...and agents, players,  owners, GMs know the contracts..  they know when one team will pay and another wont.  Jalen Hurts has nothing to do with Tennessee not paying Brown.   

Some things in life are simple, without a conspiracy.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What? A GM illegally talking to a player. Who could believe that ever happens? Maybe anyone but FL and No Mas.

Prior to free agency... days.   Not one year...lol. Regardless.. would not effect Tennessee not offering market value. 

I wouldn't definitively say 16 million

.. that's what AJ said.  I'll take his word 

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1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Yes...and agents, players,  owners, GMs know the contracts..  they know when one team will pay and another wont.  Jalen Hurts has nothing to do with Tennessee not paying Brown.   

Some things in life are simple, without a conspiracy.

Some things are very simple. Sometimes when you see all these obvious things line up that could be what happened also. When we saw Russia line up all these tanks and weapons on the border of a Ukraine you could believe Russia that they weren’t up to anything…or you could assume the obvious.

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1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Prior to free agency... days.   Not one year...lol. Regardless.. would not effect Tennessee not offering market value. 

I wouldn't definitively say 16 million

.. that's what AJ said.  I'll take his word 

So you assume we’ll offer Hurts 55 mil per right off the bat? Couldn’t possibly be a long negotiation. Sometimes guys all the way through and even get tagged. Then get signed. Huge contracts especially. Tons of details. Not easy stuff. AJ was clearly one of their best players. Could put him behind Henry. But really he would be ahead because he’s the future.  Both of us immediately said great deal. Why is it we got a great deal? Tennessee is dumb? Every other team is dumb? 

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Burns at the trade deadline…not even before the season was two first round picks. But nobody would offer more than a first and third for AJ.

6 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

The nice thing about tonights' NFL game is the Phils are on

I see the game on TV listed,but there is no game?

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