1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Much more than that. But yes…I absolutely believe Hurts said get him. I assume he broke down the exact number situation. Got Rosie to agree. Hurts could tell AJ we will pay so play extreme hard ball from here on out with negotiating. They pay up big or you will become a nightmare until they trade you.

Stop with this BS.You are WRONG,you just won't ADMIT YOU'RE wrong

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

??? Delusional... the Colts made zero moves in 2 years except flip QBs.  Retired LT.. injured guys etc...clueless 

Yeah I quit too,Ham just lies and tries to make pointless "called" it points with no facts. Puts words in people mouths then lies about that too. Sad 

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Don't know what they got for Hines, would've been great for us

SO we made no moves eh? Kind of surprising really. I'm fine with what we have,but believe we will be combing the "cut" bin

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

??? Delusional... the Colts made zero moves in 2 years except flip QBs.  Retired LT.. injured guys etc...clueless 

Yeah and forget that Hilton was hurt most of the time and we took Pascal from them who is at least reliable. All immaterial. The QB(s) should have won all the games by themselves. No need for support of any kind

Think I heard GB's only made 1 trade in a decade - gotta get out of their mindset to build a team.

51 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie contracts you’d be a fool to take and say 25 per. We have a potential out written in. Some crazy last year base salary. Only 40 mil guaranteed. Wonder if Titans wouldn’t have offered 40 mil guaranteed? Hate to let actual facts get in the way of your spin here. But already sounded like Titans were getting close.

Ham... I'm not spinning anything.   There are no theories.  Listen to the conversation between Deebo and AJ...that was made public, then the article from Tennessee more than a week before the draft... basically saying everything I've said.  

Hurts can talk to AJ

Hurts can talk to Howie

None of the 3 can make Tennessee offer 80% of market value. 

You work in your job, contract coming up.  Your value should be $100k / year.  Your best friend says,come work for my company.  Your best friend tells his boss that he wants you.

Your company offers 80k year.  

Did your friend or his boss prevent your current boss from offering 100k?    Nope. 

This was the genesis.   What Deebo and AJ and the Tennessee writer were talking about.   You were all about Deebo,and missed the AJ part. 

" Howie needs to go offer SF picks for Deebo" remember what you were saying " what picks would you guys give up..etc"   

Don't you think Howie inquired about Deebo, AJ and McClaurin...all 3 were in the same situation. 

Difference...Tennessee bit and sold AJ, the others paid their guys instead.  

Not hard to see... would your friend have to convince you not to take 80% of your value... not after 1st offer...that was final no budging offer at the time.   That's the reason for the Tennessee writer questioning the Titans organization, knowing the offer was too low.

34 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Think I heard GB's only made 1 trade in a decade - gotta get out of their mindset to build a team.

Man trading Adams was a big mistake. That was an iconic tandem in the making on the order of Manning/ Harrison. They FINALLY got some RB help in,got a decent TE they didn't/don't use enough, got some promising WR's in, but instead of bringing them along,they lost Adams and tossed them into the fire expecting the same results. Very shortsighted by them IMO,yet they bothered to draft another QB for what was no apparent reason unless they wanted to lose AROD. Then they found out their star drafted QB sucked donkey balls. FIxed things up with Arod,then proceeded to undercut him(again) by losing Adams. Just pitiful planning IMO

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You only accept the number one offense from us or we stink

That would be my GOAL yes. Isn't that the goal of every coach and OC in the league??????? I guess you'd be thrilled with .500 again?????? DO you understand what a GOAL is???? Something you TRY to reach???? Do you always make it? No,but should that stop you from shooting for your GOAL? Why should I lower my GOAL to fit the numbers? I want the numbers to fit the GOAL

Bills are now the team favored to take it all.

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Hines another good weapon for Bills

IDK who is that RB they have they don't use? 

3 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Bills are now the team favored to take it all.

Them or KC from the AFC I would think. Miami is scrappy also,they can pull an upset on any given day

Colts lost Hines but got Moss also in that deal. Actually good for him since he was never used in Buffalo. He should get some playing time

22 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Bills are now the team favored to take it all.

Sometimes I wish we had a harder schedule

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sometimes I wish we had a harder schedule

Agreed but I think there are enough tricky games to navigate and hopefully we can use this schedule to give players some rest.

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Think I heard GB's only made 1 trade in a decade - gotta get out of their mindset to build a team.

When has GB not been good? Seems like their methods are as good as anybodies. Think their main screw up was using their top pick on a QB. Being that close to going to the SB and wasting your top pick on a backup QB instead of a player toget you over the top was a huge blunder.

I don’t even know what to say on the denial of what has been said. To act like you weren’t championing starting Shew over Hurts…..just nothing here to even say if you can’t even admit what’s been said here. Whatever. 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

More than a few games vs crap teams last year? Not that the teams we play now are that tough either. Which powerhouse teams do we play from here on out? Which powerthouse teams have we played already? Any SB contenders in here?(maybe the VIkes who we will face again). Which games were won by the defense??? 

Yep most of the NFL are push overs to you. We never played anybody for years. 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stop with this BS.You are WRONG,you just won't ADMIT YOU'RE wrong

I admit nobody knows the actual truth. I don’t know a friend of a friend of either guy. Just pointing towards some obvious conclusions to draw. Either side could be right. At least I acknowledge that.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To act like you weren’t championing starting Shew over Hurts

Championing?. Once again you don't understand my post? That when I said AT THE TIME SHEW was the better PASSER? Somehow this escapes your understanding? Like before the season began? You cannot comprehend this??

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yep most of the NFL are push overs to you. We never played anybody for years. 

Correct. Crap last year,almost crap this year. Now you're getting it. How would we be doing if say we were in the west with SF and that group? You think we'd be 7-0?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Man trading Adams was a big mistake. That was an iconic tandem in the making on the order of Manning/ Harrison. They FINALLY got some RB help in,got a decent TE they didn't/don't use enough, got some promising WR's in, but instead of bringing them along,they lost Adams and tossed them into the fire expecting the same results. Very shortsighted by them IMO,yet they bothered to draft another QB for what was no apparent reason unless they wanted to lose AROD. Then they found out their star drafted QB sucked donkey balls. FIxed things up with Arod,then proceeded to undercut him(again) by losing Adams. Just pitiful planning IMO

Adams seemed real determined to go play with his buddy Carr. He was figuring more of a future there. ARod been talking retirement for years. GB had to pay ARod also. Adams contract was huge. Of coarse that’s just the way I heard and read things. Sure you don’t agree with my understanding of the situation. 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That would be my GOAL yes. Isn't that the goal of every coach and OC in the league??????? I guess you'd be thrilled with .500 again?????? DO you understand what a GOAL is???? Something you TRY to reach???? Do you always make it? No,but should that stop you from shooting for your GOAL? Why should I lower my GOAL to fit the numbers? I want the numbers to fit the GOAL

I’m fine with being the best in every category being the goal. If you said ‘goal’ I would have no problem…never even said anything different. But you didn’t say goal. Whatever…you going to deny that too…so what’s the point.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I admit nobody knows the actual truth. I don’t know a friend of a friend of either guy. Just pointing towards some obvious conclusions to draw. Either side could be right. At least I acknowledge that.

I'm fine with Hurts. Shew had more experience as a starter before this year, and all I said was "I need to see some things from Hurts" So far he has shown me those things and I have no clue how that turned into  a "Hurts hater" or that I was "championing" Shew. I wanted to see some NFL starting qualities. You forget to that I watched Shew play every weekend and I merely needed to see WHY hurts was the better QB. Has zero to do with hate or championing anyone

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Adams seemed real determined to go play with his buddy Carr. He was figuring more of a future there. ARod been talking retirement for years. GB had to pay ARod also. Adams contract was huge. Of coarse that’s just the way I heard and read things. Sure you don’t agree with my understanding of the situation. 

IDK it just broke up a very lethal combo. I have no clue what was said between writers BS articles. I'm sure Adams is thrilled with the 3 yards he got this week with Carr

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Championing?. Once again you don't understand my post? That when I said AT THE TIME SHEW was the better PASSER? Somehow this escapes your understanding? Like before the season began? You cannot comprehend this??

Correct. Crap last year,almost crap this year. Now you're getting it. How would we be doing if say we were in the west with SF and that group? You think we'd be 7-0?

Yes, you specifically said you wanted to start Shew over crap one read and run Hurts. But whatever. I’m absolutely fine with differing opinions and discussing. But you get all emotional and then deny what you went on and on about for so long.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m fine with being the best in every category being the goal. If you said ‘goal’ I would have no problem…never even said anything different. But you didn’t say goal. Whatever…you going to deny that too…so what’s the point.

"I want 1 more TD per game this year" is that not a GOAL,you cannot understand this?? My bad I didn't STATE it was a goal,I figured any adult would understand that