Just now, stine said:

The Talk is that he is not a happy camper. I know My Wife is beside herself!  She wanted Claypool but Bears stole him away from them....

Packers just had to up that offer. Rumored they offered a second round pick as well. I’d take the Bears second rounder over Packers as well. But Packers really just couldn’t not get that deal done. ARod is old. Paying him a fortune. Doesn’t make any sense really. Doesn’t look like they making the playoffs. Gotta be rebuilding in that case. Having the Uber paid old QB and not being in the postseason is about as bad as it gets. At least have the potential in youth…without the financial commitment. Worse than paying Peters on a 4 win team.

2 minutes ago, stine said:

  So The Titans offered more guaranteed money? No they did not. So what is your point? The Eagles gave him a contract for 100 Mill for 4 years 57 Guaranteed. It was said that their top offer was 16 Mil a year. I am not sure how you think the Eagles offered less when they gave a contract for more. You keep pointing out the Guaranteed money not knowing what Guaranteed money Tennessee offered, if any!

Titans offered 16 mil guaranteed. According to Ham we have an out in year 3 at 57 mil. So 16 x 3 years is 48 mil they offered and we gave him 57(according to Ham,I did not check) 57>48. Simple math

6 minutes ago, stine said:

  So The Titans offered more guaranteed money? No they did not. So what is your point? The Eagles gave him a contract for 100 Mill for 4 years 57 Guaranteed. It was said that their top offer was 16 Mil a year. I am not sure how you think the Eagles offered less when they gave a contract for more. You keep pointing out the Guaranteed money not knowing what Guaranteed money Tennessee offered, if any!

I really DID assume they would go after someone after losing Adams and especially since their new "star" is injured. Love Doubs,he is a keeper like on the order of Amendola or Edelman,he will give you the clutch plays,but I was a bit shocked they didn't really get aggressive

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Packers just had to up that offer. Rumored they offered a second round pick as well. I’d take the Bears second rounder over Packers as well. But Packers really just couldn’t not get that deal done. ARod is old. Paying him a fortune. Doesn’t make any sense really. Doesn’t look like they making the playoffs. Gotta be rebuilding in that case. Having the Uber paid old QB and not being in the postseason is about as bad as it gets. At least have the potential in youth…without the financial commitment. Worse than paying Peters on a 4 win team.

  You forget that ARod was MVP 2 years in a row...?

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Packers just had to up that offer. Rumored they offered a second round pick as well. I’d take the Bears second rounder over Packers as well. But Packers really just couldn’t not get that deal done. ARod is old. Paying him a fortune. Doesn’t make any sense really. Doesn’t look like they making the playoffs. Gotta be rebuilding in that case. Having the Uber paid old QB and not being in the postseason is about as bad as it gets. At least have the potential in youth…without the financial commitment. Worse than paying Peters on a 4 win team.

Signing Claypool to a 4 year would not be something in a rebuild? No matter who is at QB, you take the talent if you can (as we did with AJ not really knowing Hurts was the guy)

2 minutes ago, stine said:

  You forget that ARod was MVP 2 years in a row...?

Immaterial LOL

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Bradberry contract contains four voidable years. So are we dividing his earnings by five or one to get your mythical per year salary? We all know it’s actually just one. But it says it’s five.

Also years you can keep him if you choose to.You need to look at both sides. You can void it if you WANT,or you can NOT void it. Again,not too tough to grasp. Maybe the player can void it also,I didn't read the fine print

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Says he demanded more than anybody did/or would offer. So that clearly isn’t the truth.

You can demand any damn thing you want. Doesn't mean you get it does it?? he took the best available offer,but keep spinning. You need to go into politics

If Hurts demanded 150 million a year you'd pay because he demanded it???

4 minutes ago, stine said:

  You forget that ARod was MVP 2 years in a row...?

Nah …definitely didn’t. Does that mean he can carry his offense with what he has to win the SB? Think you might have misunderstood me here. My point was how can you pay ARod and not get him the WR? They aren’t looking like they’ll even make the playoffs. So they should have traded him or got what he needed. You have to be all in now with that old a QB at that price. I can’t reason a thinking of just keeping him around for future seasons to build things up. My point is age and salary for him mean it’s a win now situation. Gotta pay whatever at this point to get the WR trade. Whats too much a price to get him a WR after paying his huge salary at 39(is he)? Throw in an extra fourth round pick. Third….almost whatever. Your investment is already so great. Can’t understand a version of just waiting until next year for them.

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Also years you can keep him if you choose to.You need to look at both sides. You can void it if you WANT,or you can NOT void it. Again,not too tough to grasp. Maybe the player can void it also,I didn't read the fine print

It’s a one year contract written to spread the cap out. But technically it’s written as five years. So Bradberry isn’t earning 7.25 mil per according to your math. He’s making 1.25 mil per according to your logic. To me anyway, we all know he’s making the 7.25 figure even though it’s not technically what his contract says.

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you don't think at some point his agent said "welp,they aren't going any higher? I tried my best but it's a no go,16 is the best they will do and we need to look around?" That never happened?

I don’t think. I think he had a specific offer from another team. All that negotiating with Titans then…boom he demands ridiculous amount and wants out. If he just wanted out…why do all the negotiating? Not like he decided to just wait to become a FA. He demanded a trade. How did he know that somebody else would pay him? By rule no other team could talk to him. What other teams were bidding for his services against us? His agent was so sure who would pay more? These are just all the obvious questions that easily run through my mind. How I got to connecting the obvious dots pointing towards easy assumptions.

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You can demand any damn thing you want. Doesn't mean you get it does it?? he took the best available offer,but keep spinning. You need to go into politics

If Hurts demanded 150 million a year you'd pay because he demanded it???

League rules state he couldn’t have compared their offer to any other teams offer since he was under contract with Titans. Another technicality, I know these dang rules, Titans chose to trade with Eags…not AJ choosing best deal. Titans would take what’s best for them….draft picks. Why would they care what we pay him? But your answer actually shows me your leaning towards my theory and point. AJ chose the best offer from us. He knew we’d pay….so he walked away and sabotaged negotiations. Seems like the obvious conclusion to me…and wait…you just stated the same.

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You can demand any damn thing you want. Doesn't mean you get it does it?? he took the best available offer,but keep spinning. You need to go into politics

If Hurts demanded 150 million a year you'd pay because he demanded it???

I’m trying to make sure I’m clear on your viewpoint. Don’t want to lump you in with stine or No Mas. "He took the best available offer” so you do agree that we made an offer during his negotiation with Titans? Just making sure on what points we differ. Thought you were saying otherwise previously.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

League rules state he couldn’t have compared their offer to any other teams offer since he was under contract with Titans.

Which is why when he "walked away" there was no offer from Howie at that time right?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m trying to make sure I’m clear on your viewpoint. Don’t want to lump you in with stine or No Mas. "He took the best available offer” so you do agree that we made an offer during his negotiation with Titans? Just making sure on what points we differ. Thought you were saying otherwise previously.

Nope, after he "walked away and asked to be traded" which the Titans must have agreed to. Either that or they would have lost him with no compensation

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How did he know that somebody else would pay him?

He didn't but the market price had been set with previous WR deals,so I assume his agent would know about what he was worth elsewhere. It's their job to know

50 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Thank God for Hurts. Imagine having Shew as our starter without bringing in AJ.

What about having Hurts as the starter w/o AJ?

We don't know that either. 

Just enjoy the ride buddy. Save this BS for the off-season. You're killing my buzz

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Which is why when he "walked away" there was no offer from Howie at that time right?

Nope, after he "walked away and asked to be traded"

I think there absolutely was…and that’s why he walked away. Not just that…but demanded a trade. Not him playing things out to go to FA. Just wasn’t sure what you were saying when you said he took the best offer since he walked away from negotiations. Plus it’s been said that we didn’t actually finish his contract until during the draft. Rosie using the leverage of deal has to done before pick 18.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

League rules state he couldn’t have compared their offer to any other teams offer since he was under contract with Titans. Another technicality, I know these dang rules, Titans chose to trade with Eags…not AJ choosing best deal. Titans would take what’s best for them….draft picks. Why would they care what we pay him? But your answer actually shows me your leaning towards my theory and point. AJ chose the best offer from us. He knew we’d pay….so he walked away and sabotaged negotiations. Seems like the obvious conclusion to me…and wait…you just stated the same.

Not what I stated at all, more spin. I don't understand why you are making this complicated when it's a simple money matter and your original point was "Hurts got AJ here" so what new theory am I "leaning towards" now? Fact-Hurts had zero to do with getting AJ here. There is no theory involved

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think there absolutely was…and that’s why he walked away. Not just that…but demanded a trade. Not him playing things out to go to FA. Just wasn’t sure what you were saying when you said he took the best offer since he walked away from negotiations. Plus it’s been said that we didn’t actually finish his contract until during the draft. Rosie using the leverage of deal has to done before pick 18.

HUH??? If you walk away from negotiations that deal is GONE. At that point you have nothing because he and the team agreed they would have nothing. So you take the best offer after that. It's not that hard Ham

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Plus it’s been said that we didn’t actually finish his contract until during the draft. Rosie using the leverage of deal has to done before pick 18.

Ever hear the words" have agreed to a trade in principal" never heard those before? What that means is they agreed to a deal,it just needed to be typed out(with all the legal BS etc) for him to sign and that can occur any time. So the deal was "agreed to in principal" and why we let NO have Olave since at that time(in the draft) it would have not served us to take him(Olave) because we had AJ "in principal"

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He didn't but the market price had been set with previous WR deals,so I assume his agent would know about what he was worth elsewhere. It's their job to know

Well when you hit FA all teams have all their finances to get full market value. Most teams paid out and made what moves they could by draft time. So you don’t exactly have all teams available to pay top dollar. Usually happening because of multiple teams creating a bidding war. So market value of top dollar can’t be paid by many teams just financially speaking. Then you also have teams that have the money but don’t need a WR…like Cincy. Really narrows down the options. Who needed a WR bad enough and could afford to pay AT THAT TIME? We haven’t even heard a rumor of anybody else involved. But if your his agent who’s paying your price at this time? Not ideal situation for an agent to put a player in…unless….

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Well when you hit FA all teams have all their finances to get full market value. Most teams paid out and made what moves they could by draft time. So you don’t exactly have all teams available to pay top dollar. Usually happening because of multiple teams creating a bidding war. So market value of top dollar can’t be paid by many teams just financially speaking. Then you also have teams that have the money but don’t need a WR…like Cincy. Really narrows down the options. Who needed a WR bad enough and could afford to pay AT THAT TIME? We haven’t even heard a rumor of anybody else involved. But if your his agent who’s paying your price at this time? Not ideal situation for an agent to put a player in…unless….

So if you are the Titans, how would you benefit by letting him go to FA? You get nothing doing that. They traded him because he could not be signed and they got something as opposed to nothing

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Well when you hit FA all teams have all their finances to get full market value. Most teams paid out and made what moves they could by draft time. So you don’t exactly have all teams available to pay top dollar. Usually happening because of multiple teams creating a bidding war. So market value of top dollar can’t be paid by many teams just financially speaking. Then you also have teams that have the money but don’t need a WR…like Cincy. Really narrows down the options. Who needed a WR bad enough and could afford to pay AT THAT TIME? We haven’t even heard a rumor of anybody else involved. But if your his agent who’s paying your price at this time? Not ideal situation for an agent to put a player in…unless….

As I said previously maybe his agent said' Well you may get a little more holding out,or you can sign the Eagles offer,play on a competitive team with a guy who is your friend,your call" He wanted 22 and noone was willing to pay that apparently

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

HUH??? If you walk away from negotiations that deal is GONE. At that point you have nothing because he and the team agreed they would have nothing. So you take the best offer after that. It's not that hard Ham

I was just clarifying your statement here. I believe you were right with took the best offer…being ours over Titans. So I see you viewpoint of he walked away from their offer assuming he could get paid more elsewhere in a trade right away. Then your saying we outbid everybody else’s offer. Though Titans should take best draft compensation for them not caring about AJs bank account. So you aren’t buying the Rosie working the contract straight through almost until pick 18 then? I’m just trying to not put words in your mouth. Because he’d be even more difficult to be negotiating with the whole league for best offer while draft picks are being used. 

16 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

What about having Hurts as the starter w/o AJ?

We don't know that either. 

Just enjoy the ride buddy. Save this BS for the off-season. You're killing my buzz

Crucial he got him after we struck out everywhere else especially. Really best case scenario. We kicking butt!

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So if you are the Titans, how would you benefit by letting him go to FA? You get nothing doing that. They traded him because he could not be signed and they got something as opposed to nothing

Not there yet really. You’d obviously tag him. Why wouldn’t Titans trade him next year? Seems fairly clear AJ demanded a trade. Your article stated cleats aren’t hitting turf.