3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That crappy MVP undefeated QB. If only he could sling the ball around padding passing stats losing and turning the ball over. Then FL would be happy. How dare he kill the clock and ice the game to get the win.

Yeah...while I think the graphic is comical due to NY fans complaining about one of their players not getting enough credit...  I think it kinda shows it's pretty silly with Hurts being considered MVP with his #s.

But it goes to what we were saying in the offseason...with the best supporting cast , a QB should be putting up #s to be in the MVP conversation.

I want to see at the end of the season how many QBs have more combined TDs and how the MVP race turns out.  Be curious to see comparison with Allen and Mahomes specifically. 

19 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Well he walked away from the table. Stated his cleats won’t hit the turf demanding a trade. But yeah, Titans should just do what’s best for them and get the most draft comp. Lucky for AJ it just luckily happened we not only outbid everyone but we’re willing to pay him. So walking away from negotiations from Tennesse just luckily paid off for AJ. And it even worked out so well for him that it was a trade to his friends team he was just working out with building chemistry. It’s a miracle all these coincidence and luck really paid off for him and us. Like eight different things worked out just right…by coincidence. Bold move for AJ with such a limited market to take his chances the highest bidder of his friends team was also willing to pay.

OMG! What is wrong with you? Eagles knew the history between AJ and Hurts. It is common Knowledge that the Eagles wanted to get as much Ammo as they could to see what Hurts can do with it. So it totally makes sense to go after AJ Brown. Why does everyone see this but you are oblivious to it? Ham, there is absolutely no way Hurts orchestrated this deal. Hurts did not even have a job sown up yet! I am done trying to explain the obvious to you. Eagles Offer to Tennessee was a very attractive one. Not too many teams could have afforded to make it. So that would limit the competition right from the start.

1 hour ago, stine said:

OMG! What is wrong with you? Eagles knew the history between AJ and Hurts. It is common Knowledge that the Eagles wanted to get as much Ammo as they could to see what Hurts can do with it. So it totally makes sense to go after AJ Brown. Why does everyone see this but you are oblivious to it? Ham, there is absolutely no way Hurts orchestrated this deal. Hurts did not even have a job sown up yet! I am done trying to explain the obvious to you. Eagles Offer to Tennessee was a very attractive one. Not too many teams could have afforded to make it. So that would limit the competition right from the start.

Made sense to go after Ridley ( luckily suspension happened in time)  , made sense to go after Deebo and McClaurin too....which I'm sure Howie put in the calls.  I'm also sure Tennessee , SF, Washington and ATL got multiple calls as feelers. 

Easy to outbid anyone after making the Saints trade.  I went over all the other situations in the league... cap room, picks,  need...etc.  Easy to see where it put us as front runner.

14 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sounds good…I can handle it. Talk again preparing to be 8-0

If you aren't prepared...then I will blame you if they lose.  You are a key cog in the organization. 

15 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/patriots-draft-pick-bailey-zappe-set-these-insane-college-qb-records-last-year Yep in that POWERHOUSE FBS league LOL. If he broke all the records and was at a GOOD school why did he go in round 4???? Again, makes no sense whatsoever

  To be fair, QB's do not always go in round one and turn out to be an all star. So just because he was drafted in round 4 means nothing. Brady was drafted when? There are others I cannot think of at the moment.

These are the games that concern me.

Short week

Bad team

Away game

This game will tell me more about the attitude of the team than a game that it's easy to get up for.

17 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Get some rest and try and relax. Sorry I got you so worked up today. We’ll disagree again soon enough. 

W's and Hurts "amazing MVP stats"keep piling up playing 1 win teams----impressive stuff

1 hour ago, stine said:

  To be fair, QB's do not always go in round one and turn out to be an all star. So just because he was drafted in round 4 means nothing. Brady was drafted when? There are others I cannot think of at the moment.

Always exceptions to the rule. We all know that just "generally speaking" and I would also believe talent evaluation/scouting/tools on the internet have increased alot since Brady was drafted. So barring "freak accidents" I will go with the flow and say round 4 talents are drafted in round 4. Kind of interesting though that round 6 Brady flourished with the Pats and round 4 Zappe appears to be as well. SO what does Belicheat and his QB staff do to make this happen? Similar to how we have a penchant for taking "no name" TE's and making them pro bowl candidates. Noone ever talks about how bad our TE's play because they are always ready to play. Not enough credit is given to the people behind them. Look at the string of great TE's that come out of Philly 

Not just for Brandin Cooks but for other players who wanted a trade and are sitting out. Know if they retire they can't sign w/ another team. If a player is just going to sit out, why not just come to an agreement to dissolve the contract? Then the team and the player could just move on. Ever hear of this happening?

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If you aren't prepared...then I will blame you if they lose.  You are a key cog in the organization. 

Called Deebos mom. She will call Houston at 6, and remind them they need to lose and allow Hurts to run up his stat line. So if we win, you will know why

5 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Not just for Brandin Cooks but for other players who wanted a trade and are sitting out. Know if they retire they can't sign w/ another team. If a player is just going to sit out, why not just come to an agreement to dissolve the contract? Then the team and the player could just move on. Ever hear of this happening?

They sit out on their cush sofas waiting for some unfortunate team getting into position to make a playoff run to have players do down. The team still holds their rights for the contract duration,so if/when that happens the team in need will contact them and they will be mutually traded,but the team is compensated somehow. Dissolving the contract means the team would get nothing. It's a "greed deal"

51 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

These are the games that concern me.

Short week

Bad team

Away game

This game will tell me more about the attitude of the team than a game that it's easy to get up for.

I would like (as a fan because we don't all go to practices) to see some other guys play. I mean how good is Sermon?? I'm sure the team knows,but we don't. Can Ian Book complete a pass? IDK that either. SO hoping we can score EVERY 1/4,then let some scrubs play to save our starters. Of course playing Book or Shew will detract from Hurts MVP numbers

2 hours ago, stine said:

  To be fair, QB's do not always go in round one and turn out to be an all star. So just because he was drafted in round 4 means nothing. Brady was drafted when? There are others I cannot think of at the moment.

Also too remember some kids declare early,when in fact they aren't quite NFL ready,but in a year or 2 the growth continues and they turn out to be excellent QB's. When you draft, however you have to assume you are looking at "the best they got" and what you are seeing is the ceiling(with the standard room for improvement). This has caused us some pretty bad picks by making assumptions that weren't there. Like-"Reagor has blazing speed and we need outside speed" When you only look at that metric of course you would see a round 1 WR. They were blinded by that one thing. Can he catch? What are his YAC numbers? Can he flip his hips to make moves needed to get open?(aka cone drill at the combine which I give more weight too than the 40 dash). Can he smoothly run routes or if not at least does he have the mental ability to learn more? Is he eager to get more football knowledge? All these should be components in your selection,or course after you look at the athleticism(need that first). When I watch the combine depends on the position. Obviously you need to give more weight to different metrics looking at a DT as opposed to a S. I believe we fired some scouts a few years back and (apparently) got better ones and I also hope Howie puts more weight on their analysis rather than trying to outsmart himself. The results are 2 good drafts in a row. If we nail this next one, we will be in terrific shape. WR corps basically completed. IDK why we aren't seeing Quez/Pascal a bit more. That would be the 4th read(IMO). Pascal would be a nice RZ option,but he needs to get his hands on the ball a bit more before that happens. So this game I would really like to see Hurts grow into finding his 4th read and getting the ball to them. We need to show teams we are capable of hurting them even with Hurts 4th read. Doesn't need to be weekly,but get something for them to watch that they need to plan for down the line. Just those "little things" I would enjoy seeing. It would bring a smile to my face 🙂

PS sorry for the essay lol

Can't be traded, too late, but he's syill sitting out

14 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Can't be traded, too late, but he's syill sitting out

Yeah you may be right. You probably are. I was just trying a feeble attempt at it,but fell short as usual HAHA. So IDK,when you sign a contract why are the players not bound by it? You signed to PLAY,not hold out. Wondering if there are legal steps to take now. if you don't like the contract don't sign the dang thing,If you sign you should assume you will play out it's duration. So you posed a great question. Joe may know he is a "contract" guy

54 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Not just for Brandin Cooks but for other players who wanted a trade and are sitting out. Know if they retire they can't sign w/ another team. If a player is just going to sit out, why not just come to an agreement to dissolve the contract? Then the team and the player could just move on. Ever hear of this happening?

Player will have to give back signing bonus.   There are still salary cap implications as well.  IDK how simple it is?

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Player will have to give back signing bonus.   There are still salary cap implications as well.  IDK how simple it is?

But since the deadline passed they can't be traded at all??

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah you may be right. You probably are. I was just trying a feeble attempt at it,but fell short as usual HAHA. So IDK,when you sign a contract why are the players not bound by it? You signed to PLAY,not hold out. Wondering if there are legal steps to take now. if you don't like the contract don't sign the dang thing,If you sign you should assume you will play out it's duration. So you posed a great question. Joe may know he is a "contract" guy

I agree...play out the contract.  People in this world are starving...understand you have a privilege to be playing a sport for a living. But also, I have no issue if player and team agree to let player sit out.   That's between them.

Eagles have tough schedule.. we need Ham on this one....no Dak, Hopkins, Watt, Cooks...  nothing is guaranteed in the NFL, I agree...just we know that within the NFL there is tougher competition.   Absolutely fortunate we are avoiding it this year.   

Let the season play out before making decisions.  17-0 and a dud in first playoff game isn't that far fetched with this group.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But since the deadline passed they can't be traded at all??

Nope

Guessing I am not alone with our "easy schedule" statement lol(this from Sports Dumpster)

LMAO, I DO love the Thursday games from a fantasy perspective. Rookies will drop their good players because they want to score 1 point on Thursday and "have the lead" going into the weekend HAHAHA 

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO, I DO love the Thursday games from a fantasy perspective. Rookies will drop their good players because they want to score 1 point on Thursday and "have the lead" going into the weekend HAHAHA 

Hate Thursday from fantasy... rush i check lineups it's annoying when playing in a lot of leagues.  

27 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hate Thursday from fantasy... rush i check lineups it's annoying when playing in a lot of leagues.  

I'm in 5, rookies are dropping some nice players I can snag off the FA list. Leading in all but 1 league and they are scrambling to find an answer lol. When you drop 6 players at once you are in desperation mode lol 

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm in 5, rookies are dropping some nice players I can snag off the FA list. Leading in all but 1 league and they are scrambling to find an answer lol. When you drop 6 players at once you are in desperation mode lol 

Sounds like you have a similar schedule like the Eagles 😆

6 hours ago, stine said:

OMG! What is wrong with you? Eagles knew the history between AJ and Hurts. It is common Knowledge that the Eagles wanted to get as much Ammo as they could to see what Hurts can do with it. So it totally makes sense to go after AJ Brown. Why does everyone see this but you are oblivious to it? Ham, there is absolutely no way Hurts orchestrated this deal. Hurts did not even have a job sown up yet! I am done trying to explain the obvious to you. Eagles Offer to Tennessee was a very attractive one. Not too many teams could have afforded to make it. So that would limit the competition right from the start.

Eagles did everything for Hurts is your statement. Not to actually just build a good team. We have more invested on the D side of the ball though. You admit the options were extremely limited for AJ to walk away and force a trade to get paid. Yet that doesn’t in any way make you consider that he already had the other option in place to give him the power to make such a bold move. Sorry I just keep pointing out the obvious here. He deliberately blew up negotiating with Titans and forced a trade. You admit that would be the worst timing because…as you say options were very limited. So it’s completely impossible in your mind that he didn’t just do that move having the biggest balls taking the biggest risk in the lowest percentage market….because the plan was already laid out. I’m just going with what makes the most sense and is logical. Seems like you guys are the ones believing in the most unlikely crazy story. I just think he did it for a reason….because otherwise it was the riskiest move possible. To me it’s basically before the season I put money on the Bills to win it all. You guys are putting money on the Bears. Yet you are all calling me crazy for using basic common sense and coming to the most likely conclusions. Nobody knows who will win the SB. You guys bet would surely pay off much more.