What teams can run the ball? Have a QB that can throw short passes? Think those teams have a decent shot against us.

Niners would just annihilate our D on that. Deebo would have a field day.

Barkley would be salivating

Elliott and Pollard going to be ready to eat.

Not sure why everybody hasn’t figured this out about us yet. Seems like it was on full display to start last season. Our second quarter scoring has masked it somewhat.

How do you teach a guy that’s been playing football this long how to tackle? 

Have a day off and enjoy the win.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Really if you just go back to last season you see teams kill our D. This really concerns me. Gannon so focused on not allowing the big play. He has much better personnel now. But short passes and runs are the way to just kill us with a thousand jabs. It’s just still available. Every team will figure this out. We can’t stop the run. We don’t get up a press most of the time in coverage. We are terrible at tackling. Why wouldn’t you just keep handing off and throwing short passes? We’ll miss the tackle. Doing this keeps our O off the field is the other downside. Let’s them control the clock. Our O will get cold. I don’t want to get super negative. Real happy with this start to the season. 

See I get what you mean and I do agree to a large extent but I think the better personnel allows him to play this system. He forces teams to go on long drives with very little bit plays and when you do that you create opportunities for turnovers. I think that's why he's happy to let it all be in front of the defense because he knows they will create turnovers. I think it also works with the offense who tend to be dominant on ToP which limits the number of drives a team has. 

That said against a top QB he's going to have to mix it up. Can he do that? I have my doubts and I'm sure you have yours. 

35 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

Why does he need to show that?

we were 0-14 against jax. That not good enough?

 

One game vs a team with a losing record doesn't prove much. How about going down 17 to Dullaz and coming back?

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

See I get what you mean and I do agree to a large extent but I think the better personnel allows him to play this system. He forces teams to go on long drives with very little bit plays and when you do that you create opportunities for turnovers. I think that's why he's happy to let it all be in front of the defense because he knows they will create turnovers. I think it also works with the offense who tend to be dominant on ToP which limits the number of drives a team has. 

That said against a top QB he's going to have to mix it up. Can he do that? I have my doubts and I'm sure you have yours. 

We saw it go down to begin last season.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

See I get what you mean and I do agree to a large extent but I think the better personnel allows him to play this system. He forces teams to go on long drives with very little bit plays and when you do that you create opportunities for turnovers. I think that's why he's happy to let it all be in front of the defense because he knows they will create turnovers. I think it also works with the offense who tend to be dominant on ToP which limits the number of drives a team has. 

That said against a top QB he's going to have to mix it up. Can he do that? I have my doubts and I'm sure you have yours. 

But I think I get what you are alluding to. He can afford to play it safer at this point. Does he have more tricks up his sleeve if needed?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

One game vs a team with a losing record doesn't prove much. How about going down 17 to Dullaz and coming back?

Not sure if against the best of the best in the postseason if we can win every which way. Might need a good game plan. Might need to start strong. Gotta bring the A game.

If we go down big in the SB we could be in trouble. Not saying we can’t come back. But the obvious is it’s going to be harder to overcome bad play against the better teams.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Little bit of the Dream Team thinking here. Our D looks real good with the lead. Set up nicely against the pass. Just can’t remember many teams that bad against the run or tackling that were super successful.

How do they look in general?  First quarter of most of the games when we didn't score right away?

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

How do they look in general?  First quarter of most of the games when we didn't score right away?

Wasn’t that exactly how the Dream Team logic was built. Offense can score in bunches. So the D was built versus the pass. We are using five man fronts getting run on. Both are S are missing tackles by the bunches. 

Looking at the NFL stats myself and not taking a word of anyone to try to push my agenda ( trying to say the Dream Team idea was legit because Andy Reid and Hurts can do no wrong)

The Eagles are ranked 19th in rush yards allowed per game AFTER LAST NIGHT!!!

121.4 rush yards allowed per game 

117.9 is Pittsburgh ranked 16th ( which is top half of the league)

So it's obvious that prior to last night's game pushing them back to 19th... they were clearly in the top half of the league vs the run. 

Nothing Dream Team about that.... but nice attempt at a pro Andy spin.  Next time try to spin he is underweight. 

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t that exactly how the Dream Team logic was built. Offense can score in bunches. So the D was built versus the pass. We are using five man fronts getting run on. Both are S are missing tackles by the bunches. 

Dream team was that we would play with a lead.  The score starts 0-0.  Our defense in the first quarter....tell me how many points we gave up in the first quarter outside of Hurts pick 6? 

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Looking at the NFL stats myself and not taking a word of anyone to try to push my agenda ( trying to say the Dream Team idea was legit because Andy Reid and Hurts can do no wrong)

The Eagles are ranked 19th in rush yards allowed per game AFTER LAST NIGHT!!!

121.4 rush yards allowed per game 

117.9 is Pittsburgh ranked 16th ( which is top half of the league)

So it's obvious that prior to last night's game pushing them back to 19th... they were clearly in the top half of the league vs the run. 

Nothing Dream Team about that.... but nice attempt at a pro Andy spin.  Next time try to spin he is underweight. 

Rushing yards allowed we are only doing poorly. But then you realize…hey wait…that’s because we’ve had the lead most of the time. But we are giving up 5.2 yards a carry. Which puts us 29th. So…sure our O is helping the D stop the run. But the D isn’t stopping crap on the ground.

Now it's not defense built to play with a lead....now it's our offense will score on bunches. 

The spin is incredible.  Absolutely incredible...like the guy who lies enough that he starts to believe it.

I'll fact check you all day bro! 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Dream team was that we would play with a lead.  The score starts 0-0.  Our defense in the first quarter....tell me how many points we gave up in the first quarter outside of Hurts pick 6? 

First quarter doesn’t really do much. Nobody has to stop running in the first quarter. But if you try and run against us we’re giving up chunks that like almost nobody else. 5.2 yards a carry….I’ll fill you in…not good.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Rushing yards allowed we are only doing poorly. But then you realize…hey wait…that’s because we’ve had the lead most of the time. But we are giving up 5.2 yards a carry. Which puts us 29th. So…sure our O is helping the D stop the run. But the D isn’t stopping crap on the ground.

Ohhh then you realize....maybe that's why the average per rush is higher because we don't care that they run on us when we have a lead?

5.2, what is the 16th ranked yards per rush?     Check the #s.

Another spin...sorry this is nothing like the dream team.  Show me the LBs as good or paid like Reddick and White?  

It's not close.  As you said...they drafted a run stuffer.  No way that compares to Dream Team. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Now it's not defense built to play with a lead....now it's our offense will score on bunches. 

The spin is incredible.  Absolutely incredible...like the guy who lies enough that he starts to believe it.

I'll fact check you all day bro! 

29th against the run. Fact check again…the actual stat that shows what we give up per run. Not the fact teams are behind and have to stop running in the second half. Look at the real stats.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

First quarter doesn’t really do much. Nobody has to stop running in the first quarter. But if you try and run against us we’re giving up chunks that like almost nobody else. 5.2 yards a carry….I’ll fill you in…not good.

Yea....1st Q pretty much stopped our Dream Team from playing with a lead didn't it?

Just now, joemas6 said:

Ohhh then you realize....maybe that's why the average per rush is higher because we don't care that they run on us when we have a lead?

5.2, what is the 16th ranked yards per rush?     Check the #s.

Another spin...sorry this is nothing like the dream team.  Show me the LBs as good or paid like Reddick and White?  

It's not close.  As you said...they drafted a run stuffer.  No way that compares to Dream Team. 

Drafted a run stuffer….yet 29th against the run. Not good. Not good at all. If you can understand the numbers. Try your eyes.

Nice spin.. but show me the 16th ranked team? And show me before last night. 

It's not close to Deeam Team...and Hurts isn't carrying the team...move on!

Talk about some obscure UDFA or something ... spin ain't going to work with this. This defense is not anything like dream team.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drafted a run stuffer….yet 29th against the run. Not good. Not good at all. If you can understand the numbers. Try your eyes.

19th against the run.  That's how they rank it.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ohhh then you realize....maybe that's why the average per rush is higher because we don't care that they run on us when we have a lead?

5.2, what is the 16th ranked yards per rush?     Check the #s.

Another spin...sorry this is nothing like the dream team.  Show me the LBs as good or paid like Reddick and White?  

It's not close.  As you said...they drafted a run stuffer.  No way that compares to Dream Team. 

Teams have gone away from what works because we put the pressure on by having the lead. That’s why your rushing yards allowed is a false reading. Teams aren’t passing running stats at the end down. Their gashing is early…hard. Then we score in the second and they don’t run much in the second half. We make them one dimensional. Our D doesn’t stop the run. Our O does. We get them one dimensional and then….oh surprise…interceptions happen….sacks happen. So much easier to play D when you know their going to pass….especially when you can’t stop the run. Really probably really blowing up our pass D numbers. We look better than we are because our D is playing with the lead. But if we can’t stop the run and don’t have the lead what happens? Then we gotta overplay the run to try and do something about it. Pass D won’t look near as good.

17 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eagles did everything for Hurts is your statement. Not to actually just build a good team. We have more invested on the D side of the ball though. You admit the options were extremely limited for AJ to walk away and force a trade to get paid. Yet that doesn’t in any way make you consider that he already had the other option in place to give him the power to make such a bold move. Sorry I just keep pointing out the obvious here. He deliberately blew up negotiating with Titans and forced a trade. You admit that would be the worst timing because…as you say options were very limited. So it’s completely impossible in your mind that he didn’t just do that move having the biggest balls taking the biggest risk in the lowest percentage market….because the plan was already laid out. I’m just going with what makes the most sense and is logical. Seems like you guys are the ones believing in the most unlikely crazy story. I just think he did it for a reason….because otherwise it was the riskiest move possible. To me it’s basically before the season I put money on the Bills to win it all. You guys are putting money on the Bears. Yet you are all calling me crazy for using basic common sense and coming to the most likely conclusions. Nobody knows who will win the SB. You guys bet would surely pay off much more.

Deliberately blew up the negotiations? He walked away AFTER Tennessee said their top offer was 16 Mil per (20 with incentives). He also said later he would have taken @@ mil had they offered that. Not logical at all to think all of this was worked out back then.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

29th against the run. Fact check again…the actual stat that shows what we give up per run. Not the fact teams are behind and have to stop running in the second half. Look at the real stats.

3.89 YPC with Davis, 6+ without. That was as of the 3rd 1/4 last night. We should have taken that S dammit!!!!