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Cheesy Deuce has versatily also. Could confuse QBs a bit.

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5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The 3.89 # isn't good enough for you?  You need a back up safety more?  A rookie no less?

Both starters are pending FA. Think about the dynamics there. Get a free year to see exactly how the pairing looks with each guy. Ceedy going to cost bank. But not a reliable tackler. Epps missed some key tackles too. But gotta think he isn’t coveted league wide so much. Also might take a homer friendlier contract.

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5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Eagles should get 4 comp picks

That’s what I’ve bee seeing. Maybe more. Shew, Hargrave, Fletch, BG, white, Sanders, Opeta, Seumalo, Epps, Ceedy, bradberry. Somebody else I forgetting one.

We can’t keep all the guys we’d like. So no need to get FA. Always the trade route for a specific position fix.

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Mailata a huge freak athlete. But I expected his weaknesses would be found. No shame. Most get exposed in college. Then NFL. Glad we have Stout in his corner. Who better to guide him?

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Dickerson kind of same boat. Huge and used that. But they’ll study his technique and expose weak spot in big fella.

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You play two S most all the time with Ceedy and Deuce…even if one switches roles technically. So a third for backup purposes is vey crucial. Not the biggest guys. All those collisions. But then consider he learns from the vets year one in tutelage. Always the best way. 

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But you see Wallace out there some. Real bad situation for that. What about….when the Slot corner keeps going down. Have flexibility if you have another realist S. Rookie…but the bar is Scott,Jobe or Wallace.

3 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

. Yes, we were w/o Davis, to win we need to be better. 

For 8 weeks we've " needed to do better.... but 8 weeks and 8 wins. 

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is the kind of stuff that concerns me. League has plenty of tape on our super stud LT now. Some guys that are very important for us may get exposed. Can they adapt and overcome their weakness. Most brilliant minds in this league studying every nuance. Don’t have to make a weakness your strength so much usually. But gotta make it not such a glaring hole.

I agree...this is a concern come January. 

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Than Wallace? Did you see how lost he looks? He isn’t going to work.

3.89 yards per rush...vs over 6 yards per rush....that's more of a concern.   Not even close. 

At 6 yards a rush.. the backup safety becomes irrelevant.   

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s what I’ve bee seeing. Maybe more. Shew, Hargrave, Fletch, BG, white, Sanders, Opeta, Seumalo, Epps, Ceedy, bradberry. Somebody else I forgetting one.

We can’t keep all the guys we’d like. So no need to get FA. Always the trade route for a specific position fix.

Can only get 4 comp picks.  That's why I expect them to get 4.

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

3.89 yards per rush...vs over 6 yards per rush....that's more of a concern.   Not even close. 

At 6 yards a rush.. the backup safety becomes irrelevant.   

Can only get 4 comp picks.  That's why I expect them to get 4.

Ohh I didn’t know the limit

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

3.89 yards per rush...vs over 6 yards per rush....that's more of a concern.   Not even close. 

At 6 yards a rush.. the backup safety becomes irrelevant.   

Can only get 4 comp picks.  That's why I expect them to get 4.

If we get in the position against a team that actually gets the lead on us….it’ll become an even bigger issue.

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Not sure Gannon changed much from stoping the dinky passing game either.

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You play two S most all the time with Ceedy and Deuce…even if one switches roles technically. So a third for backup purposes is vey crucial. Not the biggest guys. All those collisions. But then consider he learns from the vets year one in tutelage. Always the best way. 

Stopping the run is more crucial to any defense than a backup who shouldn't be on the field much.   

Let's say their is an injury and Wallace has to go in...are they going to stop running if they keep getting 6 yards each rush?  

Defense in football has to stop the run first, and put the opponent in position to have to pass.

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And what if one of our starting S goes down? Pretty screwed. You can play three. But almost always having two on the field of those two guys 17 games. They can’t play every snap.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ohh I didn’t know the limit

If we get in the position against a team that actually gets the lead on us….it’ll become an even bigger issue.

Stopping the run is an issue from the start of the game. Even up a score.  The opponent just needs to run to tie it. Most coaches don't have 2003 AR mentality of " down by a FG in 1st Q, we need to pass all the time now"

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

And what if one of our starting S goes down? Pretty screwed. You can play three. But almost always having two on the field of those two guys 17 games. They can’t play every snap.

And the backup will be on the field while teams keep running on us.

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Stopping the run is more crucial to any defense than a backup who shouldn't be on the field much.   

Let's say their is an injury and Wallace has to go in...are they going to stop running if they keep getting 6 yards each rush?  

Defense in football has to stop the run first, and put the opponent in position to have to pass.

Wallace comes in he plays out of position. Haven’t seen him make but like one good tackle. I’d think they’d go straight at targeting him though. Any WR you put on the field should be a good matchup against him. Why keep the WR otherwise?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And what if one of our starting S goes down? Pretty screwed. You can play three. But almost always having two on the field of those two guys 17 games. They can’t play every snap.

Hypothetical situation.  Say the Eagles are getting 6 yards every run.    The opponent's starting safety gets injured...  you have been hired by Siri to call the plays.    Do you keep running or do you change and pass now?

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4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Stopping the run is more crucial to any defense than a backup who shouldn't be on the field much.   

Let's say their is an injury and Wallace has to go in...are they going to stop running if they keep getting 6 yards each rush?  

Defense in football has to stop the run first, and put the opponent in position to have to pass.

Hoping the S could tackle…be in position. We know he isn’t covering crap. I like Blankenship. I at least move him up over Wallace now.

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hypothetical situation.  Say the Eagles are getting 6 yards every run.    The opponent's starting safety gets injured...  you have been hired by Siri to call the plays.    Do you keep running or do you change and pass now?

Both. That’s winning football…getting first downs with low risk. Physical football. Then hit the playaction targeting the guy.

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You can play three S in formations. Ceedy can switch up positions at times to confuse. A S or Slot gets hurt rookie is needed big time.

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But I’m also pointing out how you get to look at your draft pick pairing with your two pending FA S we have. Make an educated decision more off really seeing them together in practice and game. Instead we gotta guess between the middling priced and higher priced S options. Hope they work seamlessly together. Doing it next year….if not this. What’s better about waiting?

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Not getting why it’s so important to put off adding a guy or two?

Almost just feels like you waiting for waiting sake.

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That interception by Ceedy Deuce is pretty spectacular. Just keep watching it. Guys got the reflexes. Really knew how to insure the ball didn’t hit too.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Both. That’s winning football…getting first downs with low risk. Physical football. Then hit the playaction targeting the guy.

I'm running until they stop it.   As would most coaches.   The backup safety is a nice luxury.... stopping the run is paramount. 

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I'm running until they stop it.   As would most coaches.   The backup safety is a nice luxury.... stopping the run is paramount. 

So did you watch them target Wallace and score? These OC just live to know a guy like that in coverage. Money in the bank. Guy not good enough and doesn’t have the experience. You can throw that way all day long. Wallace blows his assignment. Doesn’t cover good enough anyway. Pass interference is highly likely. Even if he’s in position…can he make the interception? Most DBs aren’t known for their hands. Heck plenty of WR aren’t even the best with their hands…got that speed.

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