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4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I agree..at the top of the draft you see it's a mix between the two.

I think we see the emphasis on edge come into play later in the 1st round...that's when you start to see more edge rushers go over DT.  DT seems to pick up round 2 or round 3. 

For us the interior Dline is much more a need also. Top two or maybe even three interior Dline show some versatility also.

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I'll take the better players elsewhere...with the understanding that FA RBs would be willing to play here for less money.   I'll admit I'm not greedy...I'm just looking at what the league has turned into and how I see the RB position just needs to be adequate.

Admittedly... I would use that money for CGJ or an upgrade at RG.  Because I believe Brooks was an acquisition that changed the OL into an elite one.  Even after he left, the standard was raised.  Give me that guy over RB.

Similar to a Nelson and Chubb move for the Giants years ago over Barkley and Hernandez.    Substance over sizzle all day.

I don’t want to ignore any position group

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah didn’t think you’d get my point. My point was you gotta address the whole team situation

And we can address this all NOW??? You can throw out theories until hell freezes over,but it never goes as we think. What is the "whole team situation": that can be addressed on this board right now?

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

11 minutes to go we finally scored and converted the two to go up 12 versus the worst team.

Fact

Whoa.... 11 minutes left...to go up 2 TDs.  Is this college now?   We start out winning by 20.   Spreads are 40 points.   We were up 12 basically 3/4 through the game...  Dallas was trailing all game... had to make a goal line stop and drive 98 yards to win in the last 30 seconds. 

12 points in the NFL is a blowout... how many games have a 12 point spread?

33 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Well I need us to win the SB because i need a new hat.

Best reason yet

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And we can address this all NOW??? You can throw out theories until hell freezes over,but it never goes as we think. What is the "whole team situation": that can be addressed on this board right now?

I agree...we can address RB I June 

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah didn’t think you’d get my point. My point was you gotta address the whole team situation. You can’t use that 32 pick on both RB and CB. Can’t pay everybody. You going to keep White at LB or Sanders at RB? Simplify and get rid of all other factors. You gotta pay one of those and use our second round pick on the other. What’s the best approach? Draft could be loaded with RB and void of LB in that area. In that situation I could see overpaying White so we have a full team.

 Anyway did my best to get across my point. We all want a great deal in signings. I just don’t want to be so cheap and frugal we shoot ourselves in the foot and can’t contend because the price wasn’t perfect.

So now you want RB,S, and add LB with 2 picks?

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t want to ignore any position group

You will have no choice but to make a choice

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I’d rather keep Ceedy Duce over Sanders. But it’s not remotely an apples to apples comparison. CGJ could cost three times as much. Just not even sure that’s an option. We know we can afford Sanders…just a matter of choosing to do so.

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is it now? I actually have noticed a shift. Aaron Donald, vita Vea, Jones in KC, Fletch for us, Niners pair….clearly used to be DE over DT….not as convinced that still aplllies. Pressure up the middle is the best way to combat the quick passing game. I think Bresee had versatility also though. We utilize five man and four man fronts basically. We have Sweat and Reddick locked in prime for years. We have a Nose. That leaves two starting positions on each side of Davis. That is if we let both Hargrave and Cox walk. To me Carter and Bressee more valuable…in the current state of things. They immediately  start. A DE? Is a backup unless he is so dominant he overtakes two very strong performing vets we invest heavily in. You know because I’m referring to Reddick as DE instead of LB. Since he almost always is at the line of scrimmage rushing. Edge seems to be the current term.

Cept for US(this draft) Murphy can play all along that line just not 1 spot. Capiche? So for me DE is the choice if I had to choose. if it's not <Murphy,then DT is fine but the later edge guys are not Murphy. You said you wanted a stud and I'm giving you one,but argue just to argue

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d rather keep Ceedy Duce over Sanders. But it’s not remotely an apples to apples comparison. CGJ could cost three times as much. Just not even sure that’s an option. We know we can afford Sanders…just a matter of choosing to do so.

I agree...cap hit for CGJ probably around 5 to 6 mil next year..Sanders probably 2 to 2.5 mil.     I'll still take the player with the impact.  Harder position to find...and a position that should play at a top level longer. Absolutely makes sense when you look at it.

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You will have no choice but to make a choice

I like this!   

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d rather keep Ceedy Duce over Sanders. But it’s not remotely an apples to apples comparison. CGJ could cost three times as much. Just not even sure that’s an option. We know we can afford Sanders…just a matter of choosing to do so.

So you don't want to save 8 million to apply towards CeeDee. If he costs 3 times as much you need to find the money if that's who you want to keep. Sanders gone is 1/3 of the way there.If you pay Sanders you are 0/3 of the way there. You have to choose,we can't pay them all

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I see how effective Zeke and Pollard are. I don’t want anything to do with Zeke’s salary. It’s worked for them to the time of only three losses. Henry has Titans in position to win their division. Niners doubled down on their string backfield and are what I’d consider contenders. Vikes have Cook to the tune of only three losses. Look at our own team. Had Ajayi and Blount kicking but with Clement coming through strong…won the SB. After that the team went downhill just like the RB room. Sanders been the best this year than we’ve had since….and we only have one loss. I readily admit that I could point elsewhere and make the opposite conflicting point. I especially see how effective our Oline is run blocking. I’d like to take full advantage of this.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I see how effective Zeke and Pollard are. I don’t want anything to do with Zeke’s salary. It’s worked for them to the time of only three losses. Henry has Titans in position to win their division. Niners doubled down on their string backfield and are what I’d consider contenders. Vikes have Cook to the tune of only three losses. Look at our own team. Had Ajayi and Blount kicking but with Clement coming through strong…won the SB. After that the team went downhill just like the RB room. Sanders been the best this year than we’ve had since….and we only have one loss. I readily admit that I could point elsewhere and make the opposite conflicting point. I especially see how effective our Oline is run blocking. I’d like to take full advantage of this.

I see how effective our situation is... I see how effective it was in 2017.. i wwe how effective it was for the Patriots for a while... I've seen how paying a RB top 10 money isn't smart investment.   

In fantasy football you need a bell cow RB.  In 21st century football only Beast mode was a huge piece for a winner.   It's just not smart business. 

 

53 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s the NFL…any given Sunday. I’ll choose to wait until we’ve beat the Bears and Cowboys before I go making week two postseason playoff plans.

DUH. You were waving pom poms all year,now your're running scared LOL. Can't win,were in trouble. Trap game coming. It's like our head cheerleader up and quit on us

I don't see Sanders as a cause....he is an effect.  You put 30 other guys in his position you get the same impact...12-1 record.   

You split the carries up a little more next year and it's fine.   Need to invest elsewhere.  It's better for the team long term. Especially the young QB.  The OL, DL and keep those young FAs... my targets probably Epps, Edwards and CGJ.  Those are pieces to move forward with.  Harder to find replacements.  RBs come and go all the time. 

Look at SF.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I see how effective Zeke and Pollard are. I don’t want anything to do with Zeke’s salary. It’s worked for them to the time of only three losses. Henry has Titans in position to win their division. Niners doubled down on their string backfield and are what I’d consider contenders. Vikes have Cook to the tune of only three losses. Look at our own team. Had Ajayi and Blount kicking but with Clement coming through strong…won the SB. After that the team went downhill just like the RB room. Sanders been the best this year than we’ve had since….and we only have one loss. I readily admit that I could point elsewhere and make the opposite conflicting point. I especially see how effective our Oline is run blocking. I’d like to take full advantage of this.

Yes Hurts is our most effective RB

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

DUH. You were waving pom poms all year,now your're running scared LOL. Can't win,were in trouble. Trap game coming. It's like our head cheerleader up and quit on us

Only cheering for his players...Hurts,  Sanders and CGJ.... they win despite their teammates and coaches. 

Remember Lane is ok when he doesn't disappear?  What is disappear? Getting injured?  Lol 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes Hurts is our most effective RB

Dude really loves everything about Dallas?    He is why Jerry Jones is a marketing genius.   Hype up dem boys!! 

Regardless that your team is better... you only went up 12 with 11 minutes left....but dem boys weren't as bad having to win at the end? 

I need to find whatever magic spell Jones uses ???  Is it still the star on the helmet that hypnotizes people?

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d rather keep Ceedy Duce over Sanders. But it’s not remotely an apples to apples comparison. CGJ could cost three times as much. Just not even sure that’s an option. We know we can afford Sanders…just a matter of choosing to do so.

Because(as you said) RB is not as valuable. Therefore if you have to choose the RB goes away because there are more out there you can find if you need to. Finding a top DB is far harder to do and you have to choose because the team will have to. We can't pay everyone.Simple,figure out who is worth what you want to spend and sign them. every other team has to do this too. It's how we got AJ????

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dude really loves everything about Dallas?    He is why Jerry Jones is a marketing genius.   Hype up dem boys!! 

Regardless that your team is better... you only went up 12 with 11 minutes left....but dem boys weren't as bad having to win at the end? 

I need to find whatever magic spell Jones uses ???  Is it still the star on the helmet that hypnotizes people?

It's easier to trace

We play 3 teams with a 14-24-1 record..the last 2 at home.

Dallas plays 3 road games vs 19-19-1.

We are up 2 games... but yet it's a concern to get that 1 seed?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's easier to trace

Parsons will be having a bigger cap hit than Hurts...at least 2 of the seasons between 2025 and 2027.   Mark my words.   The hype will be there and Jerry will pay.   

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

We play 3 teams with a 14-24-1 record..the last 2 at home.

Dallas plays 3 road games vs 19-19-1.

We are up 2 games... but yet it's a concern to get that 1 seed?

It's that 5,000:1 shot. That needs to go away 🤣

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32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And we can address this all NOW??? You can throw out theories until hell freezes over,but it never goes as we think. What is the "whole team situation": that can be addressed on this board right now?

Championship roster puzzle is what I’m contemplating. Goal is to hoist the Lombardi. At least contend for it. So you gotta get as close as you can to that full picture. So FA, our own players, trade and draft are all the options to fill it out. Some obvious assumptions would be we can’t pay to retain Fletch and Hargave while also drafting a DT tenth. So you gotta choose. Both with the options at that position and while considering every position situation. Essentially coming up with the best thirty different players. 

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