2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Parsons will be having a bigger cap hit than Hurts...at least 2 of the seasons between 2025 and 2027.   Mark my words.   The hype will be there and Jerry will pay.   

IDK though,I can't say I like this "end of year bring 'em all in for a few games" deal. IDK if that changes(doubtful). I understand some may need them due to injury,but other teams will just load up and pay for a few games saving millions. I think there should be some kind of rule after a certain time,you have to sign them for the following year also. It's like "rent to own" and only making 5 payments out of 12

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Championship roster puzzle is what I’m contemplating. Goal is to hoist the Lombardi. At least contend for it. So you gotta get as close as you can to that full picture. So FA, our own players, trade and draft are all the options to fill it out. Some obvious assumptions would be we can’t pay to retain Fletch and Hargave while also drafting a DT tenth. So you gotta choose. Both with the options at that position and while considering every position situation. Essentially coming up with the best thirty different players. 

Didn't we do that this year? Did I miss something?

Can we all remember back when we said "3 years to rebuild" yet here we are in year 2? With a possible SB run?

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's that 5,000:1 shot. That needs to go away 🤣

Maybe by 4pm Sunday that happens? But I'm sure there will be people ... 3 games left, if Dallas beats us...still chance they could win 2 and we lose 2.

It's what it is.   

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Championship roster puzzle is what I’m contemplating. Goal is to hoist the Lombardi. At least contend for it. So you gotta get as close as you can to that full picture. So FA, our own players, trade and draft are all the options to fill it out. Some obvious assumptions would be we can’t pay to retain Fletch and Hargave while also drafting a DT tenth. So you gotta choose. Both with the options at that position and while considering every position situation. Essentially coming up with the best thirty different players. 

What you are seeing is "league parity" The days of 5 year dynasties are over

37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Whoa.... 11 minutes left...to go up 2 TDs.  Is this college now?   We start out winning by 20.   Spreads are 40 points.   We were up 12 basically 3/4 through the game...  Dallas was trailing all game... had to make a goal line stop and drive 98 yards to win in the last 30 seconds. 

12 points in the NFL is a blowout... how many games have a 12 point spread?

Up four in the fourth quarter on the worst team on the league is far from dominating and convincing we couldn’t have blown that game. So could a bad team that’s better than the Texans accomplish beating us? It’s not impossible. We should win out in my view. But what’s at stake isn’t just dipping a playoff seed. We are either the one seed with home field throughout or a Wild Card team playing on the road all playoffs. Odds favor us. We’ve done all we can this season. Just feels so crazy after such a magnificent season one slip up versus the Bears, Giants or Saints could bring about such a drastic swing of fortune. Of coarse we should win. Have I seen much crazier things happen in the NFL? Yes, oh yes I very much have. If the outcome was dropping from a one seed to a two seed it wouldn’t hardly even bother me. Top seed or Wild Card is so drastic.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Championship roster puzzle is what I’m contemplating. Goal is to hoist the Lombardi. At least contend for it. So you gotta get as close as you can to that full picture. So FA, our own players, trade and draft are all the options to fill it out. Some obvious assumptions would be we can’t pay to retain Fletch and Hargave while also drafting a DT tenth. So you gotta choose. Both with the options at that position and while considering every position situation. Essentially coming up with the best thirty different players. 

Ok....so you need to look at the big picture ... long term.   Forget Cox, Hargrave etc.    You spend $$ on players you see here being effective long term.    You should start with CGJ, Edwards and Epps.  

Do the " clear the cap space thing"  with the old guys.  Get the comp picks...and go sign potential outside FAs that fit.

Draft well... fill out the rest later like RB and backups etc. 

43 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So now you want RB,S, and add LB with 2 picks?

Too complicated for you to follow me on all this. Gotta deliver the best team possible is the shortest version I can muster. 

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What you are seeing is "league parity" The days of 5 year dynasties are over

There is a " dynasty" every decade.  You see a crap year in the NFL now... yet a team like KC stays up top?   

I don't think to that extreme yet... saying a team can't sustain success.  Smart teams can think ahead.  Next year is time for the Eagles to do that.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Up four in the fourth quarter on the worst team on the league is far from dominating and convincing we couldn’t have blown that game. So could a bad team that’s better than the Texans accomplish beating us? It’s not impossible. We should win out in my view. But what’s at stake isn’t just dipping a playoff seed. We are either the one seed with home field throughout or a Wild Card team playing on the road all playoffs. Odds favor us. We’ve done all we can this season. Just feels so crazy after such a magnificent season one slip up versus the Bears, Giants or Saints could bring about such a drastic swing of fortune. Of coarse we should win. Have I seen much crazier things happen in the NFL? Yes, oh yes I very much have. If the outcome was dropping from a one seed to a two seed it wouldn’t hardly even bother me. Top seed or Wild Card is so drastic.

You win with the final score... going up 12 with 11 minutes left is a blowout.   The game starts 0-0.   

This is great...complaining about only winning by 12 in a Thursday road game.. yet we can still lose the division to Dallas....a team that was losing for 59 and a half minutes... AT HOME! 

Don't we agree Thursday football is awful... hard for road teams without the practice time.  Usually sloppy ball.

Yet winning by 12 isn't up to par in that circumstance? 

Wonder on here who thinks Dallas wins all 3 of their remaining road games? 

Any given Sunday must only work for bad luck.   

I can see Dallas finishing 1-3.   Or maybe 3-1..   4-0 I don't see it. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Too complicated for you to follow me on all this. Gotta deliver the best team possible is the shortest version I can muster. 

Isn't that a given???? I don't need essays to tell me what I already know

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

There is a " dynasty" every decade.  You see a crap year in the NFL now... yet a team like KC stays up top?   

I don't think to that extreme yet... saying a team can't sustain success.  Smart teams can think ahead.  Next year is time for the Eagles to do that.

Noone can string 3 SB's in a row,even 2 is tough. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Too complicated for you to follow me on all this. Gotta deliver the best team possible is the shortest version I can muster. 

It's not complicated.You want everything and that is not happening.Never will. So pick your spots and take a tab like every other team has to. You want every position covered by studs with starting quality BU's across the board and you want it year over year over year. It's a great DREAM that belongs in a fiction book,but it's not happening in real life. So the only complicated parts are the ones that don't fit your dream. Every team tries their best with whatever limited resources they have be it draft picks cash or whatever.. IDK how complicated that is for you,but it seems to be WAY over your head. 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Cept for US(this draft) Murphy can play all along that line just not 1 spot. Capiche? So for me DE is the choice if I had to choose. if it's not <Murphy,then DT is fine but the later edge guys are not Murphy. You said you wanted a stud and I'm giving you one,but argue just to argue

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Bryan-Bresee-DL-Clemson

Capiche how his teammate is 305 pounds runs the forty at 4.7 and has versatility to play all along the line.

Bresee plays in the backfield. Tackles for loss and sacks. Can play two gaps. Excellent against the run.

I like Murphy though. He’s also a freak. We might be thinking on these twos right until the card comes in on draft day.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I agree...cap hit for CGJ probably around 5 to 6 mil next year..Sanders probably 2 to 2.5 mil.     I'll still take the player with the impact.  Harder position to find...and a position that should play at a top level longer. Absolutely makes sense when you look at it.

I like this!   

Yeah we know we aren’t paying anybody on next years cap. We’ll borrow from 2026 to pay anybody for 2023 play. Overall I’m estimating 7 mil versus around 20 mil annual salaries. If you want to get real about the costs instead of trying to spin away from the triple cost of one player versus the other. Goes without saying everybody prefers the 20 mil guy over the 7 mil guy in a FA situation. I prefer Mahomes over Shew also if we are going to do outrageous comparisons. Even just stick to our own pending FA at S….I prefer Ceedy over Epps….duh…20 mil player over 5 mil player. But the obvious opposite is true also that it’s much more plausible to fit the much cheaper player in our plans.

I guess the choice would be more like: Ceedy Duce or Sanders, White, Scott and Epps  ohhh and we get a third round comp pick with the second group decision.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you don't want to save 8 million to apply towards CeeDee. If he costs 3 times as much you need to find the money if that's who you want to keep. Sanders gone is 1/3 of the way there.If you pay Sanders you are 0/3 of the way there. You have to choose,we can't pay them all

See previous post

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Bryan-Bresee-DL-Clemson

Capiche how his teammate is 305 pounds runs the forty at 4.7 and has versatility to play all along the line.

So who am I looking at.... Murphy, Bresee and Capiche as the DL you guys are talking about?

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Only cheering for his players...Hurts,  Sanders and CGJ.... they win despite their teammates and coaches. 

Remember Lane is ok when he doesn't disappear?  What is disappear? Getting injured?  Lol 

Disappear is what he did last year when he had mental health issues or pain pill addiction or whatever happens when he….ughh disappeared. He wasn’t injured. Just happened…I’d think you could remember.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah we know we aren’t paying anybody on next years cap. We’ll borrow from 2026 to pay anybody for 2023 play. Overall I’m estimating 7 mil versus around 20 mil annual salaries. If you want to get real about the costs instead of trying to spin away from the triple cost of one player versus the other. Goes without saying everybody prefers the 20 mil guy over the 7 mil guy in a FA situation. I prefer Mahomes over Shew also if we are going to do outrageous comparisons. Even just stick to our own pending FA at S….I prefer Ceedy over Epps….duh…20 mil player over 5 mil player. But the obvious opposite is true also that it’s much more plausible to fit the much cheaper player in our plans.

Why can't we pay CGJ?   Plenty of cap space in 2026. Now you get it.   Cap is there...but time to let the old guys walk. 

Sanders I don't see a long term deal as being smart...so technically that means higher cap hit on the shorter deals. Definitely don't see any " dead money" being smart at the RB spot.

I would think they could sign both safeties and Edwards.   But we know they don't like using $$ there.

I could see a real overhaul at the lines...really investing both $$ and draft picks there.  I could see them doing that.   To the point where I would consider it overkill.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Disappear is what he did last year when he had mental health issues or pain pill addiction or whatever happens when he….ughh disappeared. He wasn’t injured. Just happened…I’d think you could remember.

Where did he go? 

By the way FL we are neck and neck in our prediction at Wr. Wilson and Olave are super close. Olave 887 and 3 TD

                           Wilson 868 and 4 TD

Going to come down to the wire.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I guess the choice would be more like: Ceedy Duce or Sanders, White, Scott and Epps  ohhh and we get a third round comp pick with the second group decision.

See you can't understand the money part... because it's not like the way you want to do it.    CGJ vs those 3 guys is not going to be the choice.  

Because yes.... 2026  cap space comes into play...it's how players get money in their pockets ASAP....it's not simply to push money down the road.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Dude really loves everything about Dallas?    He is why Jerry Jones is a marketing genius.   Hype up dem boys!! 

Regardless that your team is better... you only went up 12 with 11 minutes left....but dem boys weren't as bad having to win at the end? 

I need to find whatever magic spell Jones uses ???  Is it still the star on the helmet that hypnotizes people?

We were up 4 on the one win team in the fourth quarter. The Cowboys had to pull off the win at the end against their in state rival. Both East teams had a tough time but pulled out the win against the worst team. We actually got exposed a bit but Lovie. He knew exactly how to play the option. Notice how we haven’t utilized it nearly as much since that game. Not sure I take much more than:the gap between the best teams and the worst just isn’t that great a divide. Coming full circle back to no game is a lock and a given win left for us.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK though,I can't say I like this "end of year bring 'em all in for a few games" deal. IDK if that changes(doubtful). I understand some may need them due to injury,but other teams will just load up and pay for a few games saving millions. I think there should be some kind of rule after a certain time,you have to sign them for the following year also. It's like "rent to own" and only making 5 payments out of 12

Didn't we do that this year? Did I miss something?

Try to do that every year. Can we only try to seriously contend one season or is there such a thing as a Championship Window? If it’s so boom or bust this season that would make trading away a first round pick pretty dumb. That we deliberately have a lesser team the year we have a chance to win it all so we can try and scrape together an extra win or two in the seasons following.