2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think you don't understand that the players like this method... you seem to blame Howie every time a contract is given ... when we sign CGJ...and spread the signing bonus out 6 years,t will help him get $$ ASAP...and help keep him here.   The cap hit for 2028... when he is 30, and still playing well for us shouldn't be an issue.  Because he will either have contract redone of cut if he isn't performing...either way it saves us cap space and keeps him happy.

The Dallas method ...in order to keep the players happy you have to overpay. Works bad for the team....   as I've said, not for one year...but for long periods.

Saves cap space in a rolling cap is your point?

 Dallas works bad by having a better record from 2018-2021. Winning the division while dominating us last year and arguably having the most talented team. All while their main issue is a bad HC. Still right there with is potentially this year. Two games back after losing to us with their backup QB and Parsons playing injured. All while we have our QB under the cheapest rookie contract and they’re paying QB top money. What was it? 38.5 mil difference in pay at QB. That’s what makes them bad and us brilliant in your mind? Originally your point was they were dumb for Dak forcing their hand to pay up by utilizing all his leverage….while we were brilliant by paying Wentz a fortune we could spread out better. Think you’re wrong on both points. Just like how you point out how they lost a player or two making them wrong….like we will lose even more this offseason that you celebrate doesn’t happen to us.

But if they could have decided earlier to commit to Dak then his cap hits could have been pushed back more with more flexibility. This is I guess your point. That we committed early to a terrible option made us smart and they committed late to a good option seems to be your pint also. My view is both are less than optimal. Case closed. Thank you for your time.

19 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sanders wouldn't get the same length of a contract so his cap hit would be higher...  bad investment. 

He’s just entering his prime as the lowest milage starting RB to enter a contract season I can think of. I could easily see all the players I listed signing four years. Your trying to move the goal posts now.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Saves cap space in a rolling cap is your point?

 Dallas works bad by having a better record from 2018-2021. Winning the division while dominating us last year and arguably having the most talented team. All while their main issue is a bad HC. Still right there with is potentially this year. Two games back after losing to us with their backup QB and Parsons playing injured. All while we have our QB under the cheapest rookie contract and they’re paying QB top money. What was it? 38.5 mil difference in pay at QB. That’s what makes them bad and us brilliant in your mind? Originally your point was they were dumb for Dak forcing their hand to pay up by utilizing all his leverage….while we were brilliant by paying Wentz a fortune we could spread out better. Think you’re wrong on both points. Just like how you point out how they lost a player or two making them wrong….like we will lose even more this offseason that you celebrate doesn’t happen to us.

Dallas has won about 3 playoff games since the salary cap was put in.. .. because Parcells couldn't coach?  

They mismanage money...overhype...we sucked last year because bad drafting for a while.  

You are a big fan of Zeke and Dak.  Who is this great roster...how many playoff wins?   Which positions are better than us besides Parsons?

TY Hilton maybe? They suck

But I was just throwing out the several FA that could be kept equaling the one S. I’m sure we could come up with many more examples. Obviously your specific Sanders bias is driving your whole deflecting tactic.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s just entering his prime as the lowest milage starting RB to enter a contract season I can think of. I could easily see all the players I listed signing four years. Your trying to move the goal posts now.

No goal posts... I didn't really read your posts....  just stating you don't understand the whole league does these contracts...except for Dallas.   Who consistently struggles to get cap space.   Why is it hard to understand. 

They have hyped guys...overall they don't have a deep roster...because they don't do contracts properly.   It's obvious to the rest of the world.   "But No Mas they beat us last year" so what?   They draft well...that's it.  If they could manage the cap they could put  full roster together... not an overhyped one due to a couple of players.  

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dallas has won about 3 playoff games since the salary cap was put in.. .. because Parcells couldn't coach?  

They mismanage money...overhype...we sucked last year because bad drafting for a while.  

You are a big fan of Zeke and Dak.  Who is this great roster...how many playoff wins?   Which positions are better than us besides Parsons?

TY Hilton maybe? They suck

Spin, circle and repeat. I don’t agree with the Elliott signing I’ve said a ton of times. But yeah, Elliott and Pollard is clearly a position they are better than us. LB also. But we get the nod this year on the strength of our one year rentals overall. If your argument is they haven’t had enough talent to win a playoff game I completely disagree. Garrett and McCarthy have been their biggest hold up.

Many experts had Dallas with the best roster...because many experts have their heads up their arses!   Most overhyped team in sports...for 2 decades.  They lose to Tampa wildcard round.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No goal posts... I didn't really read your posts....  just stating you don't understand the whole league does these contracts...except for Dallas.   Who consistently struggles to get cap space.   Why is it hard to understand. 

They have hyped guys...overall they don't have a deep roster...because they don't do contracts properly.   It's obvious to the rest of the world.   "But No Mas they beat us last year" so what?   They draft well...that's it.  If they could manage the cap they could put  full roster together... not an overhyped one due to a couple of players.  

They had a much better WR room with Cooper, Lamb, Gallup and was it Cobb for years while we had nothing close. We had not much at RB while they had a strength there. On and on. They had a better record than us from 2018 - 2021. Better. Worse HC yet better. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Spin, circle and repeat. I don’t agree with the Elliott signing I’ve said a ton of times. But yeah, Elliott and Pollard is clearly a position they are better than us. LB also. But we get the nod this year on the strength of our one year rentals overall. If your argument is they haven’t had enough talent to win a playoff game I completely disagree. Garrett and McCarthy have been their biggest hold up.

Congrats they are better at RB...maybe punter too.   They have Parsons... what else.   I'll take our LBs over the rest of theirs.   Our DL as a unit...our OL, our WRs, our DBs, our TE... all day.  

They are overrated ....flashy RB position is not impactful toward winning.   Forget the salary...cut it in half still not worth it.  That s why I don't want to pay Sanders... he wouldn't be worth it either.   

You can be his agent so he can go negotiate with another team...and see how good he does on another team.

I really don’t want to defend the cowboys. But quality of roster has not been their big holdup. Like I said better than ours from 2018 to 2021. They achieved a better record while being hamstrung with poor HC. That really says so much.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They had a much better WR room with Cooper, Lamb, Gallup and was it Cobb for years while we had nothing close. We had not much at RB while they had a strength there. On and on. They had a better record than us from 2018 - 2021. Better. Worse HC yet better. 

How many playoff wins in 25 years...they had plenty of other coaches besides the last 2 guts.  They don't manage cap well...for decades. You seem to miss this point....decades....DECADES... A LIFETIME FOR SOME YOUNG FANS.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I really don’t want to defend the cowboys. But quality of roster has not been their big holdup. Like I said better than ours from 2018 to 2021. They achieved a better record while being hamstrung with poor HC. That really says so much.

Yes...quality of the entire roster.  Take the big LB for example....overhyped and overpaid.   That other guy Smith...overhyped and overpaid. Zeke, Dak....next will be Diggs, then Parsons.  

But no Mas they keep drafting these studs... and hype them and overpay them right afterwards. 

Every time they have a decent player they overpay. Every time. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I also had George Pickens. So it looks like I’m slightly in the lead. But it’s too close to call still. Going down to the wire.

IDC at this point lol

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We just have to lose to the Cowboys…not remotely out of the question…believe it’s in Dallas also. Then if we lose one other game they win the tiebreaker. This is if Dallas wins their four remaining games. That’s why I keep mentioning it’s possible  we slip up to just one of the Saints, Bears and Giants. We go from one seed to wild card. 

We are up by 2 games? It's not like we have the same records

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Congrats they are better at RB...maybe punter too.   They have Parsons... what else.   I'll take our LBs over the rest of theirs.   Our DL as a unit...our OL, our WRs, our DBs, our TE... all day.  

They are overrated ....flashy RB position is not impactful toward winning.   Forget the salary...cut it in half still not worth it.  That s why I don't want to pay Sanders... he wouldn't be worth it either.   

You can be his agent so he can go negotiate with another team...and see how good he does on another team.

I’ve said, now for the twentieth time, I never agreed with paying Zeke that. But your point is their roster doesn’t translate to wins? Yet they are right there as second best team in the NFC. Had more wins than us from 2018-2021. I have to even acknowledge that our win over them creating the separation wasn’t on even terms. Are we really going to base our superiority over them this season on how we beat them with their backup QB and Parsons injured? But still comes back to they’ve been dealing with poor HC. Win more while HC was worse. How are you coming to the conclusion that makes them worse than us in personnel over cap management?

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

How many playoff wins in 25 years...they had plenty of other coaches besides the last 2 guts.  They don't manage cap well...for decades. You seem to miss this point....decades....DECADES... A LIFETIME FOR SOME YOUNG FANS.

Feels like we’ve been discussing this for decades…geez

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s just entering his prime as the lowest milage starting RB to enter a contract season I can think of. I could easily see all the players I listed signing four years. Your trying to move the goal posts now.

Amazing how his "prime" is in a contract year when last year he had no TD's at all. COincidence lol

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes...quality of the entire roster.  Take the big LB for example....overhyped and overpaid.   That other guy Smith...overhyped and overpaid. Zeke, Dak....next will be Diggs, then Parsons.  

But no Mas they keep drafting these studs... and hype them and overpay them right afterwards. 

Every time they have a decent player they overpay. Every time. 

And they keep winning while having bad HC

You envision a RB group that's elite because you like the flash.

The stuff that will make a good book or movie.   Something that sells...basically the Jerry Jones mentality.  

I'll take the basics. Non flashy stuff.  Not the guys that would be great for marketing or doing ESPN interviews ot the cover of a fantasy football magazine.  That's what Dallas has.

19 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Many experts had Dallas with the best roster...because many experts have their heads up their arses!   Most overhyped team in sports...for 2 decades.  They lose to Tampa wildcard round.

That was us

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2022/12/putting-miles-sanders-career-year-into-perspective.html  Better for a comp pick lol

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve said, now for the twentieth time, I never agreed with paying Zeke that. But your point is their roster doesn’t translate to wins? Yet they are right there as second best team in the NFC. Had more wins than us from 2018-2021. I have to even acknowledge that our win over them creating the separation wasn’t on even terms. Are we really going to base our superiority over them this season on how we beat them with their backup QB and Parsons injured? But still comes back to they’ve been dealing with poor HC. Win more while HC was worse. How are you coming to the conclusion that makes them worse than us in personnel over cap management?

Feels like we’ve been discussing this for decades…geez

Because they drafted better than us.....they drafted better than us...they drafted better than us and...wait for it....they drafted better than us.  

Draft is the foundation of the roster...the cap management comes in when looking to finish it off. 

Now what you saw this year, they had to lose guys because of not managing the cap.  

You come back to me when Smith has to resign...if we lose him then you can puff your chest that we can't manage the cap.  

Our problem is draft, yes that was the only problem...because it's step one.  You aren't supposed to be able to buy every player to replace bad draft picks, the idea is to use the money to finish off the roster.  Dallas never been able to do that.

 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We are up by 2 games? It's not like we have the same records

Yet still face them head to head. One game right there. If we lose any of the other three and they win their other three they have the tiebreaker on us. We become a Wild Card team.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet still face them head to head. One game right there. If we lose any of the other three and they win their other three they have the tiebreaker on us. We become a Wild Card team.

They have 3 harder games than us...all on the road.   If they finish 2 games behind us, that's a good accomplishment for them. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet still face them head to head. One game right there. If we lose any of the other three and they win their other three they have the tiebreaker on us. We become a Wild Card team.

Running scared. Deer in headlights. 180 from the pom pom gig