If there was a sign of cockiness... a sign of incompetence in the coaching... a sign of laziness... complacency.... anything that seems like of focus..  there has been no signs of that.

Perfect storm vs Washington...Cox and Hargrave with no subs...Graham was playing DT. They ran on us...now add Davis, Suh Joseph.. it's 5 legit DTs instead of 2.  

AJ was obviously not 100% then

Quez caught a ball...tripped... then got up and fumbled?   When does that happen ?   

The whole planet saw the face mask on Goedert..except the handful of refs....that's fluke.   Still had a chance to win at the end with all that. 

This team is just getting it's stride... if anything it's going to play better now. 

Dallas is the team that would be extremely fortunate to win all 3 of their road games.  They have been one extreme to the other all year... they give the bulletin board material.   Eagles have been " no comment "

Gotta get over this unnatural fear of disaster.   Hurts may not win a SB this year.  May not win the NFC... but #1 seed... come on man, it's in the bag.  

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right,they drafted for NEED. The fact they were suck picks is a different subject

BPA is great for rebuilding. Contending teams have pieces in place so many spots. Then it comes down to completing the Chsmpionship Roster Puzzle. Taking best player always helps long term. Getting guys cheap is good value. But good to great teams gotta fill that weakness. Gotta bring in the Neon Deon.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK,he is a leader,a special breed,a generational talent that spans decades. IDK how we lost 1 game. next year should be a total SWEEP. Just tell the other teams to forfeit and hand over the Lombardi because "we got this" 🤣

More just dumb comments. Let’s please raise the bar on the level of discussions here.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Is he the best QB the EAGLES have ever had? I would say he is on track to be. However stating he is unique to the point of being godlike for you I just can''t fathom. I'm pleased with his play and that he progressed faster than I had hoped, but I'm not worshiping him. Probably never will. We gave him probably the best overall offense in the league and I would say the best the Eagles have had as a total group. It would take a serious effort on Hurts part to fail. He would have to TRY to fail. I like the fact the team likes him and he can be a leader,but he's not the first on the planet to have done it. I like the fact he is improving and will keep getting better. I like the fact we are 12-1 with a TEAM effort(not just Hurts). So if you want me to build him a memorial,hold your breath because it won;t happen. IDK what bad conclusions I have jumped to. Its my opinion. You can disagree and kiss his shoes,but I won't

Best we’ve ever had is a whole different discussion. Interesting one to undertake. But just too early for all that. He needs to win a playoff game first …at least.

I never said anything about god like. We did build a good team. Absolutely. That’s the goal in a team sport. What I was mentioning to you earlier. I’m not real interested how much he can raise up a crap team. I want to know how far we can get with a good team. That’s the judgement. You went off on some tangent like you are now missing the whole point. You started saying bad teams have good players and crap. Not what I was talking about. It’s simple. Can that player be a part of a Championship team? The big pressure moments…whats he do? Great players can shrink under pressure. Medium players can be clutch. Whatever level player you gotta be able to show no game is too big. No pressure moment will make you wilt. I love the competitive guys that actually thrive in those moments. They can raise their game by all those factors. Some might get lost on me with this example. But I saw Payton Manning not make it happen in the big moments. You could make arguments for him as one of the best ever ….during the regular season.

You mention all these outside the box things about Hurts you always miss his obvious strength. 

He is consistent.  He doesn't beat himself.  Not since the Giants game. And really...not even before that.  He is excellent at hitting the layups. He makes the easy throws consistently.

I think you are afraid to say this because it's not expressing some over the top intangible or special ability.

But in sports , the ability to do  easy things consistently is important.   He has the better team around him,he hasn't messed that up.   Why assume he does now?   They run a nice simple offense that puts him on position to make plays and avoids putting him in bad situations.  He relishes in that.  Plus he can just run if he has to.  

Physically this team wins the battle at the line.. except when they were short handed big time vs Washington. 

Your boy Andy will be hall of fame...but he was also big part of the reason you suffered disappointing losses with your hopes high for the team.  It was his weakness as a coach.  You could see him get flustered in big moments.  This team doesn't have any of that.  The only way they lose when it matters... is to a better team.  That's not until playoffs.  Regardless if Dallas wins head to head...we aren't going to lose after that if the game counts.

Manning won two SB. But that’s when his D in Indy came out of nowhere to play great. Pass rusher and DB especially got super hot. Look at his stats. Regular season throws a billion TDs. But SB winning years what did he do? The one thing he ever did in the clutch was that SB winning season beating Patriots. Over and over the Pats beat him down in the playoffs. He clearly was on the best team plenty. In college Tennessee was the best twice. Didn’t win it. All those best teams in Indy failed with him though

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

BPA is great for rebuilding. Contending teams have pieces in place so many spots. Then it comes down to completing the Chsmpionship Roster Puzzle. Taking best player always helps long term. Getting guys cheap is good value. But good to great teams gotta fill that weakness. Gotta bring in the Neon Deon.

Can't bring in Neon Dion once the salary cap was put in place.  Not without managing the cap.

His SB winning seasons I think he about threw as many picks as TDs. Stats were pathetic. RB stepped up and D stepped up that year in Indy. Denver that team carried him. He tried to just be a game manager mostly. But actually made some crucial mistakes. Denver practically did it inspite of him. Like we’ve seen in Santa Clara for awhile.

Corey Clement comes to mind for us. The guy never was anything much special. Anybody in the NFL has talent. But that guy rise to the occasion and had the game of his life in the SB. Did it catching. I don’t even remember him catching two passes in a single game all the rest of his career. But goes for over 100 receiving as a RB that never was thrown to. Undrafted. Fifth string. But gamer. Clutch. Didn’t get all butter fingered on the biggest stage. He thrived. 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I never said anything about god like. We did build a good team. Absolutely. That’s the goal in a team sport. What I was mentioning to you earlier. I’m not real interested how much he can raise up a crap team. I want to know how far we can get with a good team. That’s the judgement. You went off on some tangent like you are now missing the whole point. You started saying bad teams have good players and crap. Not what I was talking about. It’s simple. Can that player be a part of a Championship team? The big pressure moments…whats he do? Great players can shrink under pressure. Medium players can be clutch. Whatever level player you gotta be able to show no game is too big. No pressure moment will make you wilt. I love the competitive guys that actually thrive in those moments. They can raise their game by all those factors. Some might get lost on me with this example. But I saw Payton Manning not make it happen in the big moments. You could make arguments for him as one of the best ever ….during the regular season.

Agreed....it's why I judged Wentz in 2017..not 2020.   Wasn't interested in how he handled the crap team.   2017 when given the pieces he delivered. 

Hurts doing the same with a team that can win. 

Right now ...Hurts, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and whoever QBs SF are the guys who are playing with teams good enough to win.  They are what matters now.  

So much bad football this year...looking forward to seeing those matchups. 

You can be a K that booms 60 yarders all season. But fake on the line…win or go home…what happens? That’s what I judge. Gotta have that. Guys that shrink in big moments can’t really help me. Can be All Pro…but he chokes…I’d rather have the mediocre guy that can handle it.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Manning won two SB. But that’s when his D in Indy came out of nowhere to play great. Pass rusher and DB especially got super hot. Look at his stats. Regular season throws a billion TDs. But SB winning years what did he do? The one thing he ever did in the clutch was that SB winning season beating Patriots. Over and over the Pats beat him down in the playoffs. He clearly was on the best team plenty. In college Tennessee was the best twice. Didn’t win it. All those best teams in Indy failed with him though

He took 4 coaches to the SB.  

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

When you guys get the position you think with a draft pick,  but they surprise you with the choice of player....you know that's a need pick 

When they surprise you with the position of the selected draft pick, but not so much that the player was taken around that # ... then you know they are drafting their BPA.

There is actual logic in this statement. Makes sense. Of coarse always still depends on the draft board. But also we’ve been known to hyper focus on the lines. So they’ll take a guy in the trenches that isn’t a need. They just always have boosted the line draftees so much. Philosophy and master planning they had times they got stuck on that’s the only move they valued like that also. So Dickerson you made a decent point. But I worried because of their logic. They just will take that lineman 8 times out of 10. Gannon forced change some. Schwartz D just wasn’t Gannon D. So to hire Gannon meant you had to adjust and change things up. Totally different scheme. So just dumb if you don’t get him a Nose and LB. We’ve refused to invest in LB. But had to do it for him. Or fire him.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Manning won two SB. But that’s when his D in Indy came out of nowhere to play great. Pass rusher and DB especially got super hot. Look at his stats. Regular season throws a billion TDs. But SB winning years what did he do? The one thing he ever did in the clutch was that SB winning season beating Patriots. Over and over the Pats beat him down in the playoffs. He clearly was on the best team plenty. In college Tennessee was the best twice. Didn’t win it. All those best teams in Indy failed with him though

Manning beat Brady in 3 of the 4 AFC title games....including the last 3.  Brady beat Manning when the Indy defense was pathetic.   To say a D stepped up.   Yeah ,welcome to the party.  Was same issue Brees had in New Orleans.   

Hurts won't have that problem this year.   He will have supporting cast.  He has intangibles.   What will happen though...is the games will be legit.  So we don't know what will happen.  They could win or lose.  He could play well or poorly.

But if you want to compare him to Manning ( you will see it as an insult, but I'm saying as a compliment)  Luke Manning, Hurts isn't going to crap the bed in the regular season..not vs the crap teams here at the end.   It's going to take a Brady type team in early 2000s to beat us.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can be a K that booms 60 yarders all season. But fake on the line…win or go home…what happens? That’s what I judge. Gotta have that. Guys that shrink in big moments can’t really help me. Can be All Pro…but he chokes…I’d rather have the mediocre guy that can handle it.

So imagine having a guy who you say has tools that you have never seen before...and you believe he can handle the moment...  then no reason he should lose in regular season when his team is big favorite?  

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There is actual logic in this statement. Makes sense. Of coarse always still depends on the draft board. But also we’ve been known to hyper focus on the lines. So they’ll take a guy in the trenches that isn’t a need. They just always have boosted the line draftees so much. Philosophy and master planning they had times they got stuck on that’s the only move they valued like that also. So Dickerson you made a decent point. But I worried because of their logic. They just will take that lineman 8 times out of 10. Gannon forced change some. Schwartz D just wasn’t Gannon D. So to hire Gannon meant you had to adjust and change things up. Totally different scheme. So just dumb if you don’t get him a Nose and LB. We’ve refused to invest in LB. But had to do it for him. Or fire him.

Yes... you see my point I have been making for years.

I fear they just draft lines, not because of need...but because a lineman gets artificially bumped up as their BPA.   

You tell me... Brandon Graham vs the safety Seattle took that 2010 draft?

Do you feel most teams would have has Graham as true BPA... or the fact that the Eagles put so much weight on the lines....that it was the main reason to select Graham instead?

I love Graham. Dude is so easy to root for. He works,  he smiles, such a great dude off the field.  It turned out great.  But at the tike what was your opinion if he was the choice over that stud S?

Earl Thomas...couldn't remember..lol

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Is Stroud a WR?   I don't know college players... so don't assume you give a name,  that I know who he is.

Are you asking me if I would take a WR by the name of Stroud?    Or are you asking me if the Eagles take a WR by the name of Stroud... if I believe they would do it based on need or BPA?

If you are asking me my opinion...I would pass on the WR unless I really thought he was going to have way more impact than anyone else. 

Bur if they picked a WR...then I would think it's because they feel he was by far the BPA.   Wouldn't be a pick for " need"

Does that help?

Stroud is the #1 or #2 QB off the board(OSU,you can see him play in the semi-finals). I'm done as I said

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What are you talking about here? The question was if every single player was available in the draft….where would you draft Hurts…today. You can draft ARod and Brady first. Since you opened your mouth like a fool. He listed off Mahomes, Allen and  Burrow ahead of Hurts. I agreed. He questioned Burrow. Burrow I believe to be fantastic! I’d take him over Hurts. I brought up Herbert also was in the conversation. But heck yes we are lucky Hurts is here! This is just a dumb lash out post. But No Mas on the record. He’d go for the super old guys that are having their worst seasons. Looking like they might hang it up. Draft the guys retiring mouth. I’d wish for plenty of stupid GMs like you. Draft a whole team that is ready to retire to build your team…hater! 

WTF are you talking about now??? And I'm a fool now? So much for your LIES about being civil. KMA . Learn some civility yourself  and GROW UP- FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I liked you better on ignore. Maybe I need to put you back there due to your incessant childish behavior? Or maybe I will just read your inane posts and not respond because I enjoy the comedic value

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s read and comprehend and try and understand what I’m saying before lashing out just to fight and argue always. Really killing are conversations. I have to backtrack soooo much to get you to actually understand the discussion always. He’s unique. Prove me wrong. I hadn’t really realized it until recently. He’s no god. Just dumb hating on me talk to lash out and miss the entire discussion.

It's a ONE freakin sentence question,Just ANSWER it and forget the 5 pages of BS cause like Joe,I'm not reading essays. Can you comprehend ONE sentence? Define the "everything" that Hurts brings to the table noone else has done before. If you can't back up your statements,thats is not my fault. Now answer the ONE sentence question!!!! Stop dodging,Answer a point blank question because that is what a FOOL does,dodge,weave and dance around a question. Joe and I may disagree,but we can answer 1 sentence questions. Give it a try

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

More just dumb comments. Let’s please raise the bar on the level of discussions here.

Then get your butt out of the sewer,grow up and show some maturity

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stroud is the #1 or #2 QB off the board(OSU,you can see him play in the semi-finals). I'm done as I said

Ok....so we both agree that we prefer not to take a WR with the 1st pick...correct.  Basically we didn't disagree on anything correct?

 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok....so we both agree that we prefer not to take a WR with the 1st pick...correct.  Basically we didn't disagree on anything correct?

 

I already been through this,if our pick is 4 and Stroud is there he is far and away the BPA,do you take the QB there if he is the BPA(now that you know who he is)? Noone else would come close to being the BPA at pick 4 or do you draft a player that you actually need? BPA or need?

If you trade back,then I would assume QB was not a NEED even though he is the BPA at pick 4.