Actually in that draft I had us taking JJ,Hightower(late) and Quez as a late pick or UDFA.My thoughts were because JJ can score from anywhere on the field.I thought Hightower could be good enough to replace Alshon(jury still out) as the "climb up and get it" WR.Quez to sit behind Djax and learn.So I got 2/3 right.I hope Reagor lights it up for us someday.I like Fulgham better than Hightower so kudos for that snag.I also had us taking Killins as a UDFA. I hope we find a home for him.He faster that Quez lol

What I am seeing league wide is the so called " SPEED draft stars" are not faring that well. Ruggs no real impact,although he needs time to learn and is hurt right now. Reagor,same.Guys like Lamb,JJ and Hollywood making immediate impacts

41 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't even expect 12-13 games from Desean and the FO were foolish if they thought that's what they'd get.

Not really 12-13 games is the norm from Djax give or take... If they were expecting more from him or for him to complete a full season they were foolish but not for looking at his norm

48 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Dillard still on rook contract.He'll play where we tell him to.If he wants out(it's not light he lit the LT spot up with his play),we'll trade him,or he will become a LG in an excellently structured left side O line that could last many years (HAHAHA)

Yea he would play where you tell him doesn’t mean he will be good though....Terrible RT realistically best case scenario he is competition at LT and the backup LT if he loses .

Could try him at LG but don’t think he beats our Semaulo or Herbig.

RT we have Lane he isn’t losing and Driscoll should be the top RT backup 

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ruggs no real impact

He just had like 118 yards or so and a TD vs the Chiefs 

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Guys like Lamb,JJ and Hollywood making immediate impacts

These guys also have studs around them sure that aids to a degree.... Thelian in Minnesota, Cooper in Dallas.... Hollywood???? You talking Hollywood Brown lol 😂(if so he isn’t a rookie and is a speed guy) if not sorry 

56 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't disagree there. I'd like to see Hightower in the slot at times and Watkins as the Z. And then hopefully when Reagor comes back he can play at Z and Desean can just ride the pine for the rest of the year.

I don't even expect 12-13 games from Desean and the FO were foolish if they thought that's what they'd get.

Don't forget Fulgham. That dude can flat out play! He has deserved snaps over Hightower and Watkins (even though he has not played much yet). I am sure he can play anywhere we put him. His routes are crisp and he makes any catch he can put his hands on. Now here is a guy that was on GB's PS. I am sure GB has a good WR Coach as every WR that has played there always seems to play good elsewhere. We all know about our WR coaches. Anyone see Agholars TD catch yesterday? Enuff said.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

We will get some players back for sure but at what cost? Do Desean and Alshon come back and take snaps away from Fulgham? Probably! Does JP return and go back in at LT? Probably. The Wentz regression is a real concern and I think at this point we are almost having to accept that he's a good QB without being elite and he comes with major flaws. One of the biggest issues for me is that he seems to believe he can make a play on every single down. That's admirable but doesn't show maturity and progression.

??????   Regression?  Did he look bad getting 29 points playing with 4 backup OL and all backup WR... and a useless Ertz?   Got hit 20 times?     I have to point out... you are not going to get anywhere " elite" when you are corking with a lineup that is changing each week and that included 8 players who shouldn't be starting.    I will say this though... about the schedule.  The thing that should make a difference between the easy schedule to start and the one coming up..... is that now the players have had a chance to play and practice together.    You can already see how it made a difference yesterday.    Football we all know is a sport where players need practice... both within a system and with each other.  The coach can then call plays around what he knows about players.  This whole start with all the injuries... caused chaos everywhere.  Now we know our 4th string OT is going to start.  Our 4th string OG.  Our 6th and 7th WRs along with a guy picked up off the street.   With having this from the start, and not all F$%ked up during the game, it will be easier to play better.   

Wentz worst play was 2nd half of Washington and into the Rams game.  6 quarters of 17 points vs defenses not as good or rested as Pittsburgh... and both were home games.   The finish to Cincy, the SF game and yesterday were a lot better.  It's not coincidence either as the guys that are in there have had full weeks of practice and actually being in the game plan.  Moving forward, if we could get Reagor and Goedert back, that would be enough for me.... Ertz I would trade or sit at this point, we would be lucky if he gets a little injury.  In fact, I'd put JJAW in there in a 4 WR set, at least they may use an extra DB and we could actually run the ball better.  

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think if you had Dillard at LG and Mailata at LT that would be similar to trying to hammer a marshmallow through a brick wall.JP can play RG or LG till Dillard comes back,then put Dillard at LG. We're paying him to play where we tell him to play.He gave this team many good years.We also gave him another years paycheck.We owe him nothing.I'm sure he will be in the HOF. I'm thinking out loud,but think that combo going forward is the way to go.it would solve many line issues simply and leave us one less hole to fill in FA ,or on draft day.I'm just using common sense(or my view of it lol)

Dillard is not going to play G... he is a T   I think what we will see... They resign Mailata in the Big V role... but if he beats out Dillard, then he gets the start.   Lane is not going to be around forever, we may see Dillard/ Mailata OT combo with Driscoll as the swing?   Who knows.   What I think may happen is if they sour on people, we may see some trades to move around a little in the draft etc.  

I do think that Alshon, DeSean and Peters may all be done.  DeSean will get some reps for sure, not sure about the other 2 though.  They will let them milk the injuries and heal up 100%.   But I think this time that the young kids are getting is valuable.    The big thing is this offseason being the right purge like 2016 was.  Then we can go into 2021 without expectations... and watch how things probably improve.  

58 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Not really 12-13 games is the norm from Djax give or take... If they were expecting more from him or for him to complete a full season they were foolish but not for looking at his norm

After last year? Given his age? It was foolish. This is a guy who's struggled with soft tissue injuries his whole career. 

42 minutes ago, stine said:

Don't forget Fulgham. That dude can flat out play! He has deserved snaps over Hightower and Watkins (even though he has not played much yet). I am sure he can play anywhere we put him. His routes are crisp and he makes any catch he can put his hands on. Now here is a guy that was on GB's PS. I am sure GB has a good WR Coach as every WR that has played there always seems to play good elsewhere. We all know about our WR coaches. Anyone see Agholars TD catch yesterday? Enuff said.

Oh don't worry I'm not forgetting our Travis. But he's more of an X than a Z right?

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Regression?  Did he look bad getting 29 points playing with 4 backup OL and all backup WR... and a useless Ertz? 

Um yes at times he did look bad. Sure there are some mitigating circumstances I'm not going to argue that... But what we saw at times last night is what we have seen a lot throughout his career! There's no getting away from that despite the reasons or excuses. 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm wondering,despite what he SAYS,if drafting Hurts,put a bug in Wentz's jock.is he trying to hard because he fears for his job? The Hurts pick still has me SMH and if what I said is the case,we shot ourselves on the foot by picking him.I understand he is a "pro" now,still when you draft a QB that high,it's gotta play with your head

Yeah, I don't think so with Hurts.  I think he is trying to make plays on an inferior team and trying to win games.   You guys have the right mentality now.... we should be favored in 3 more games... both NYG and Wash ... the rest we should be underdogs now.  It should be a relaxing mindset, which may be hammered home with a big loss next week.  Lower the expectations and just play football.   1-4-1 with 10 games left.    5 within the division ... Browns, Cards, Seattle, Green Bay and Saints.   The last 3 we have no business winning... but the other 7 we should have a shot.   Personally, I'd like to see the young kids play now.  Semaulo being the exception if he is able to come back.  The best thing for us (although hard to root in the moment)  We miss the playoffs and get a nice pick in the middle, early teens.   But if we do sneak in, IMO would be better if the young kids earn it again.  

22 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

After last year? Given his age? It was foolish. This is a guy who's struggled with soft tissue injuries his whole career. 

No last year was a fluke given his history even at his age you’d expect again 12 games.... And his whole career minus last year he plays regularly around 12 games.

Not sure what some expected from Djax but honestly I came in expecting him to play around 12 games and realizing this is his last season with us(honestly didn’t want to trade for him but we did) but my epectations didn’t change on him 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Dillard still on rook contract.He'll play where we tell him to.If he wants out(it's not light he lit the LT spot up with his play),we'll trade him,or he will become a LG in an excellently structured left side O line that could last many years (HAHAHA)

Why would you want a finesse player at G?????  

Lane Johnson getting 2nd opinion on his ankle he could very well be done for the year 

OL very well could be Mailata/Herbig/Kelce/ Pryor/ Driscoll vs the Ravens 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lane Johnson getting 2nd opinion on his ankle he could very well be done for the year 

I would rather have him sit out now and prevent any long-term damage. Plus, Driscoll has been pretty good.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

OL very well could be Mailata/Herbig/Kelce/ Pryor/ Driscoll vs the Ravens 

Take Kelce out of the equation and our average age is just over 23.

9 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Take Kelce out of the equation and our average age is just over 23.

That's really encouraging for the future!

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SHHHH.It seems to me fairly obvious that Etrz is being phased out? Maybe it's just me?

Not really... he just can't get open if hey actually pay attention to him... not coincidence his best years were when he had Alshon on the outside.... 3 WRs to take the better coverage away.  He is shot... be good for him to go somewhere else.  I would prefer a TE that can block a little now.  Loved him before, but time to go.  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Not really... he just can't get open if hey actually pay attention to him... not coincidence his best years were when he had Alshon on the outside.... 3 WRs to take the better coverage away.  He is shot... be good for him to go somewhere else.  I would prefer a TE that can block a little now.  Loved him before, but time to go.  

  Should have traded him like I wanted before the draft.... Now he has no value and I doubt we even get a third round compensation for him.... What a waste.

The rate we are going and the way the East is right now we might as well start shipping out old pieces and going with youth.... Trade Ertz, Djax, Graham, Alshon etc. whoever we can get some value for.

Let the young guys plays if we win a terrible East feel better we did it getting all these youngsters experience in the process 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah, I don't think so with Hurts.  I think he is trying to make plays on an inferior team and trying to win games.   You guys have the right mentality now.... we should be favored in 3 more games... both NYG and Wash ... the rest we should be underdogs now.  It should be a relaxing mindset, which may be hammered home with a big loss next week.  Lower the expectations and just play football.   1-4-1 with 10 games left.    5 within the division ... Browns, Cards, Seattle, Green Bay and Saints.   The last 3 we have no business winning... but the other 7 we should have a shot.   Personally, I'd like to see the young kids play now.  Semaulo being the exception if he is able to come back.  The best thing for us (although hard to root in the moment)  We miss the playoffs and get a nice pick in the middle, early teens.   But if we do sneak in, IMO would be better if the young kids earn it again.  

Yeah I posted the projections "as of right now" that show us at pick 14 and I said that sounded accurate.Of course depending what we do that will move a bit,but seemed about right to me AS OF NOW.In a way I am happy for the injuries because it forces the young guns to step it up,where they may not have before,so IMO that is a bit of a silver lining.As fans we are seeing many players that have progressed we didn't get to see before and it's changing my views about the WR staff.Seems we are developing guys,just that we NEVER got to see them

One thing I noticed about Wentz yesterday. On the final drive of the first half, he made three mistakes that cost us. First, he missed a throw to Miles that would have put us in field goal range. It looked like it may have been a drop, but it was an easy throw that should have let Sanders get out of bounds.

Second, on the Hightower throw to the end zone, it looked like he was late. I think if the ball was delivered earlier it's a score. He did make a good throw and Hightower maybe should have caught it, but he was running out of room. Ideally that's a ball that hits him in stride.

I also think the ball to JJAW would have been a touchdown but it was underthrown and he had to slow up for it. He actually did well to track it and made a tough catch. But if Wentz had been more accurate I think it's a TD or at the very least JJAW can get out of bounds.

There were also a few throws during the game that he rushed early on, but as he started to trust his oline, he got better. One thing we have to start doing is getting our RBs involved in the pass game. Scott and Sanders need to get the ball in space.

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yea he would play where you tell him doesn’t mean he will be good though....Terrible RT realistically best case scenario he is competition at LT and the backup LT if he loses .

Could try him at LG but don’t think he beats our Semaulo or Herbig.

RT we have Lane he isn’t losing and Driscoll should be the top RT backup 

He just had like 118 yards or so and a TD vs the Chiefs 

IDK playing the left side should be familiar to Dillard,so I see no reason he can't succeed as a LG.of course you need to check it out,but it seems the me his odds would be pretty good.MANY T's taken in drafts end up being OG's,so it's not like it never happens

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK playing the left side should be familiar to Dillard,so I see no reason he can't succeed as a LG.of course you need to check it out,but it seems the me his odds would be pretty good.MANY T's taken in drafts end up being OG's,so it's not like it never happens

Didn’t say he couldn’t play G just don’t think he would be better then Semaulo or Herbig.

Think the better course of action is to let him compete for LT next year whoever loses is backup LT keep it simple