2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Must win…is to avoid elimination

Right must win to avoid elimination from winning the division title. If we lose we have eliminated that option

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

What???? You can win from the 1 seed OR the wild card,so you are wrong once again. The chances of winning INCREASE if you have home field(look it up)

I was referring to either being a wild card team or not being a wild card team. Look up the chances for non playoff teams winning the Lombardi.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right must win to avoid elimination from winning the division title. If we lose we have eliminated that option

You can set all kinds of different parameters. To achieve the one seed, to win the division….

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok, how far are you willing to go to achieve that? I can agree with this. I also however believe we’d have a better chance winning the Lombardi with a healthier team. Rather be the last playoff seed with a healthy Hurts than top seed with Shew.

Well we have to make a choice. if we win we get a FREE bye/rest week off,if we lose we keep playing and on some of these guys we don't know when they will be back,so if you rest them this week and we lose,then we are on the road,if we win we have home field and a week off to heal up

On its own, must win, is what it is, until you add extra achievements to occur. The Washington game was MUST WIN for us to remain undefeated.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was referring to either being a wild card team or not being a wild card team. Look up the chances for non playoff teams winning the Lombardi.

You can set all kinds of different parameters. To achieve the one seed, to win the division….

Well we're already at LEAST as a wild card,so we're already in no matter what,it will just be harder to go all the way playing away in hostile stadiums

So if you want the extra week to rest and the division win,this is a MUST win. if you're ok playing away for 3 weeks,then it's not. I'm betting Siri plays to win. If we can't beat the Gnats,we have no business in post season,so this is a must win for ME

So you risk Hurts, Ceedy Duce and Sweat this game?

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The guy laid face down for a long time and then was carted off and went straight to the hospital. I can’t see playing a guy that just suffered that neck injury.

I can name plenty of backup QBs that didn’t have so many bad turnovers.

We have no idea how severe his injury was.

Any kind of neck injurt they treat as worst case scenario as they should. It's only after a complete examination at the hospital can they determine its severity

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was referring to either being a wild card team or not being a wild card team. Look up the chances for non playoff teams winning the Lombardi.

You can set all kinds of different parameters. To achieve the one seed, to win the division….

True, but a simple win eliminates all those others

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

We have no idea how severe his injury was.

Any kind of neck injurt they treat as worst case scenario as they should. It's only after a complete examination at the hospital can they determine its severity

That is very true. Can you see a scenario you’d play him this game?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

True, but a simple win eliminates all those others

NFL doesn’t give out simple wins

Well we can't afford 4 TO's no matter whom we play

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well we can't afford 4 TO's no matter whom we play

You’d have to believe from here on out we need to be able to execute handoffs cleanly…at least.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That is very true. Can you see a scenario you’d play him this game?

NFL doesn’t give out simple wins

OK back to the semantics game(childish but ok). NFL gives out nothing,teams win or lose(Trying to explain it on elementary levels) ok a hard fought win then then another scenarios go away.Simple win,med win,hard fought win,ugly win,blowout win,pick whichever you want. Pity this needs explained,but SIMPLY by WINNING your other scenarios no longer apply

I'm out for awhile

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK back to the semantics game(childish but ok). NFL gives out nothing,teams win or lose(Trying to explain it on elementary levels) ok a hard fought win then then another scenarios go away.Simple win,med win,hard fought win,ugly win,blowout win,pick whichever you want. Pity this needs explained,but SIMPLY by WINNING your other scenarios no longer apply

I'm out for awhile

Elementary levels? Like having to explain what ‘Must Win’ means?

Yes….elementary 

To be fair FL, it’s not just you. MSN and several other bad reporting I’ve read must win also.

Nobody mentions playing Lane against the giants. I have no idea where these lines of must play this guy versus that guy are being drawn by everybody here.

I don’t want to play Hurts, Sweat, Maddox, Ceedy or Lane against the giants.

Groomers car was T boned at lunch,so the dogs grooming appt is cancelled 

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Elementary levels? Like having to explain what ‘Must Win’ means?

Yes….elementary 

To win the division we MUST WIN yes? First goal-get into the playoffs,second goal,win the division. For most people this is the norm,but not Ham, for you the bar was lowered to "just slop your way in and hope for the best)

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be fair FL, it’s not just you. MSN and several other bad reporting I’ve read must win also.

That's because they are normal sports writers

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody mentions playing Lane against the giants. I have no idea where these lines of must play this guy versus that guy are being drawn by everybody here.

The guys that can play WILL,it's not hard to understand is it???

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/01/philadelphia-eagles-saints-recap-jalen-hurts-injury-nfc-east/  Yep,Ham, you are alone again

ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting that Hurts has improved enough to be available for Week 18 if the Eagles need Hurts to help lock up the NFC East and home-field advantage in the playoffs.

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That is very true. Can you see a scenario you’d play him this game?

NFL doesn’t give out simple wins

Well Maddox and Lane won't play because they can't

I don't remember Ceedys injury but didn't he have a lacerated kidney? His practice window is open as i understand but don't know if he's cleared for contact.

Sweat, honestly it depends on his injury. Since we don't really know how severe it was i can't make an informed comment

https://www.ydr.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/01/05/damar-hamlin-health-updates-what-we-know-thursday/10991034002/?fbclid=IwAR2ZeV-wSv3y5bFL8jCdaWBWRTlUePfhwqV21VXYghJZJSwqEuhHdLKV5k0

49 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

To win the division we MUST WIN yes? First goal-get into the playoffs,second goal,win the division. For most people this is the norm,but not Ham, for you the bar was lowered to "just slop your way in and hope for the best)

That's because they are normal sports writers

So if the cowboys lose we don’t win the division?