8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So making the playoffs... with Mailata, Driscol, Hightower, Reagor ....etc  is not a better sign for your future... than it was last year?  WE can disagree on that one.  And to be honest, my concern isn't really if we make the playoffs.  I'm just focused on these young guys on offense right now... the ones the GM picked.  If they do well, its a good sign.  

It isn't better for your future when the team is going backwards. You think making the play offs at say 5-10-1 is good?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But your the one preaching and buying into this hype of its all about the Dline. Well out money and draft capital is all over the Dline....is that getting it done? Did our Dline just get completely negated by Pitt running counters, reverses and getting the ball out quick on passing? It absolutely just did! Flawed strategy. I’m not buying.

Flawed strategy or just not the right players.  And you see why... i'm not sold on Barnett and Sweat.   They scare me.   LBs I think we could get 3 of us on here to do better.   But don't mix up what I;m saying.  I would prioritize DL all day... but I'm not passing up stud LB or S like they have done for decades... to get Victor Abiamiri either.   Take the better player.  I like the way 2017 was built.  The DL was absolutely elite that year with guys younger.   The LBs were solid.   Right now, I see decent DL with high school level LB.  I think you can easily find ok LBs ... harder to find elite DL.  And to further my point, IMO what made our DL elite in 2017 was the depth, which means we gotta lot of work to do going forward.  

You said it ... one stud LB can make a huge difference... I think we need multiple on the DL.

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It isn't better for your future when the team is going backwards. You think making the play offs at say 5-10-1 is good?

young players playing well is better than older players winning it for you because there is something to build off of with the youth.  The record and the playoffs seems like something you are obsessed with.  Right now I don;t really care about that... I don't see us beating Seattle, New Orleans or Green Bay ... my concern is more so I want to see the young guys play well at this point.  

Lurie is not going to fire Howie... its just not going to happen.  But either way, we need to see signs the young kids can play. 

4 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It isn't better for your future when the team is going backwards. You think making the play offs at say 5-10-1 is good?

BTW... I didn't realize we were 5-10-1 yet?  I see 11 games left to play and like I said, I want to see the young guys play.   At least the offense anyway.   The defense I can barely watch. I have no young player that really interests me on the defense. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

young players playing well is better than older players winning it for you because there is something to build off of with the youth.  The record and the playoffs seems like something you are obsessed with.  Right now I don;t really care about that... I don't see us beating Seattle, New Orleans or Green Bay ... my concern is more so I want to see the young guys play well at this point.  

Lurie is not going to fire Howie... its just not going to happen.  But either way, we need to see signs the young kids can play. 

And that was where we went backwards. Being the second oldest roster and starting slow last year. At least this year we have the opportunity of youth improving as the season goes on. Still saddled with old players. Dumb decisions. But a slow start with young guys that are set to improve with experience has that upside factor. 

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

BTW... I didn't realize we were 5-10-1 yet?  I see 11 games left to play and like I said, I want to see the young guys play.   At least the offense anyway.   The defense I can barely watch. I have no young player that really interests me on the defense. 

I think 5 wins is a stretch. 

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Flawed strategy or just not the right players.  And you see why... i'm not sold on Barnett and Sweat.   They scare me.   LBs I think we could get 3 of us on here to do better.   But don't mix up what I;m saying.  I would prioritize DL all day... but I'm not passing up stud LB or S like they have done for decades... to get Victor Abiamiri either.   Take the better player.  I like the way 2017 was built.  The DL was absolutely elite that year with guys younger.   The LBs were solid.   Right now, I see decent DL with high school level LB.  I think you can easily find ok LBs ... harder to find elite DL.  And to further my point, IMO what made our DL elite in 2017 was the depth, which means we gotta lot of work to do going forward.  

You said it ... one stud LB can make a huge difference... I think we need multiple on the DL.

The Eagles have made it clear they can't evaluate LB talent.  Look at the last draft. They take a LB in the 3rd. Has he even seen the field? The Eagles have some of the poorest linebacking in the NFL and he can't even get on the field.

If reports are accurate, and i doubt most of them are, the FO has become dysfunctional. Don't expect any changes though. The SB win got everyone a free pass.

This game is likely to be pretty ugly for the Eagles. The oline is going to struggle and I doubt we can do enough on defense to stay in it.

Two things I am interested in seeing on defense. The first is how well Singleton/Bradley play opposite Gerry. This will be the first time they get extended action with Edwards and Riley out, and I think each one has a shot at earning a starting job. If they play well, or at least not terribly, how can the team justify keeping them off the field? The Ravens use a second TE or FB about 60 percent of the time, so we will likely be in a traditional 4-3 defense for about that amount. It is possible we get our first Davion Taylor sighting as well.

The second is Parks/Wallace at strong safety. I would guess they will share snaps at SS. We are light in the secondary, so I think Elijah Riley gets called up again.

On offense, Butler will likely be active for the first time. I will be interested to see how they use him. With guys coming back from IR, he's at the top of my most likely to get cut list, so I think they should throw him out there to at least see what he can do.

14 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So,if we still have a meager shot at a division title and he can PLAY why trade him? Once again until he gets 2-3 games in noone will be interested.someone would have to be pretty desperate(or stupid) to buy out that contract and sacrifice a draft pick off of a 1 game return

Do you really want to win a division title barely with this roster????.

As for the contract it isn’t bad for the team trading for him really think like 8-9m they have to pay him only cost a low pick and again would have to be healthy and pass the physical to even go through. 

15 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Do you really want to win a division title barely with this roster????.

As for the contract it isn’t bad for the team trading for him really think like 8-9m they have to pay him only cost a low pick and again would have to be healthy and pass the physical to even go through. 

The thing that is concerning is the poor record of drafting the last 5 years or so. With the cap you can't build a team around free agents. You have to be able to find those lost cost diamonds. This FO can only seem to find good players in the later rounds.

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

It isn't better for your future when the team is going backwards. You think making the play offs at say 5-10-1 is good?

Yes if it is with the youngsters the record is terrible sure but the experience the young guys got is invaluable. Not the young guys fault our division sucks that we won it at 5-10-1 or 6-9-1.

Just now, Asg 15 said:

The thing that is concerning is the poor record of drafting the last 5 years or so. With the cap you can't build a team around free agents. You have to be able to find those lost cost diamonds. This FO can only seem to find good players in the later rounds.

Mmmm looking at the drafts and recent players finding success elsewhere I’m more concerned with the coaches development. 
 

B. 2016 was a good draft led solely by Howie

17-19 Joe Douglas was a major voice in the draft room questionable drafts(though again think we found some talent just coaches didn’t use them

20- draft seems to have promise but to early to tell anything 

8 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mmmm looking at the drafts and recent players finding success elsewhere I’m more concerned with the coaches development. 
 

B. 2016 was a good draft led solely by Howie

17-19 Joe Douglas was a major voice in the draft room questionable drafts(though again think we found some talent just coaches didn’t use them

20- draft seems to have promise but to early to tell anything 

2016 Wentz, Seu, and Mills still here

2017 Geery and Barnett

2018 Best class of Goedert, Maddox, Sweat, Pryor and Mailata

2019 Dillard Sanders and JJAW. I'll reserve judgement on Dillard until he can get on the field

37 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

2016 Wentz, Seu, and Mills still here

2017 Geery and Barnett

2018 Best class of Goedert, Maddox, Sweat, Pryor and Mailata

2019 Dillard Sanders and JJAW. I'll reserve judgement on Dillard until he can get on the field

2016- 3 players still here and Big V was a very successful swing T for us it was a good draft.

17- bad Barnett has been avg. Douglas/Jones terrible here but having success now that they left.

18- Geodart is good, Maddox has been terrible since his rookie year, Sweat seems to be finding himself.  Mailata seems alright not jumping the gun and Pryor is a career backup at best but decent draft 

19- Sanders that it’s so far 

to me 2016 was easily our best draft so far and it isn’t even close 

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But I can’t really tear anybody down this season. It’s weird messed up season they are trying to force in. Can they finish? I don’t even know that. Trying to repeat as SB champs I get. Not killing everybody...or anybody for that. But we doubled down. That was the issue. Went for some old vets in FA. Especially the problem was I was loving DJax here. Ending him off was a bunch of dumb crap. Complicated ....yes. But bringing him back as the answer was fool hearty. We needed speed badly. Yes. But reaching back to well was a low percentage gamble. Heck he missed last season and already most of this season....so even a bad gamble should start paying off now. Just weird how I was so on the ‘what are you doing’ train with shipping DJax out....but couldn’t jump back in with bringing him back wagon. Had to get young blood for that. Reagor I believe in. Really think he’ll deliver. But he’s on the sideline too. Funny how when you look towards yesterday...this league chews you up about today. Better looking towards tomorrow...and coming up short id say. Gotta move forward. Things haven’t gone in the right direction since we had the GM of the year. Seems like all that money you weren’t worried about at the time is exactly what’s biting us in a77 now! The money is crucial. Handicapping us badly right now. Youth must take over!

I showed before that even DrafkTek asks "why are  the Eagles so injured every year?" Even they see the dis proportionate amount.We can't "gel" because we can;t keep 22 guys on the field

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ll take my own blame in some of the logic going on here. I’ve been preaching to draft a bunch of S/ hybrid type players. Been seeing things moving towards a passing league. So S that can perform in the slot and deep is great. But really kind of seeing the LB role transforming. So going after S can really help you out. Slot, FS, SS, and other roles that the current NFL is utilizing really brings a bunch of opportunity to those types. And in short...the LB role isn’t what it used to be.  So draft some good S. Play them all along the defense. Guys get injured was always the problem. So yes..,S types couldn’t ever hold up u the fire of the LB role. But you got to attack with numbers. So you get you four or five good S....maybe an elite one or two...then yourversatile enough for today’s NFL. Combinations become endless.

I want LB's!!! And what is missing on D now is the DOMINANT pass rush.We are "average".Our secondary cannot cope with an "average" pass rush.So we either need to get some pass rushers in here OR get some secondary players.There is no money to do both(although we tried with Slay lol)

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah... I was saying it after 2005 up until 2017.  Andy thrived here with a weak division.    And congrats, he has built up a team with awesome weapons, he can't mess it up at this point unless it comes down to managing the time.  

Yeah, I'm thinking 2022 because I'm thinking getting the young guys going to make a run.  I'm thinking 2022 because I want to get the team back up to a level to where I think my QB (who will still be in his 20s) can get back up to the elite level he played at the only year he had good players around him.  I'm thinking 2022, because I like these WRs and I want them to get some seasoning.   And I will remain consistent.. the thing that scares me the most is our DL ... because I'm thinking 2022... and I see a 32 year old Cox, no more Graham/ Curry ... a nice back up in Sweat who you can't give too many reps too, whose knee can go out at any time.... and a Barnett that I hope takes a leap into being close to pro bowl level... too many ifs.  

I'm thinking 2021.it's not like we don;t have pieces,it's just we can't keep those pieces on the field.You can get $80 million in "star" players.useless if they can't play

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

We just will disagree about LB  ... We agree we suck at LB... no doubt there.   But you seem to think they were going to spend there ... and I don;t see it.  Nothing in their history tells me they were going to spend on LB.  

We have the chance to DRAFT one,costs little to do,we should do it alot more,so you aren't out scraping for them.We need to buck "history".It's almost like "OH we can't take a LB because we never have",well START!!!! IDC about your freakin history

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Flawed strategy or just not the right players.  And you see why... i'm not sold on Barnett and Sweat.   They scare me.   LBs I think we could get 3 of us on here to do better.   But don't mix up what I;m saying.  I would prioritize DL all day... but I'm not passing up stud LB or S like they have done for decades... to get Victor Abiamiri either.   Take the better player.  I like the way 2017 was built.  The DL was absolutely elite that year with guys younger.   The LBs were solid.   Right now, I see decent DL with high school level LB.  I think you can easily find ok LBs ... harder to find elite DL.  And to further my point, IMO what made our DL elite in 2017 was the depth, which means we gotta lot of work to do going forward.  

You said it ... one stud LB can make a huge difference... I think we need multiple on the DL.

You just quoted my mock to this point(lol) I know you hate mocks,but thats how teams get built.My first 2 picks are 1) Micah Parsons-LB-Penn St 2) Jalen Twyman-DL-Pitt(I traded Miami our 9th for the 14th and a round 2  pick 9).These are BOTH HOMERS,we like them and they are fills we need.Miami would be a round 1 trade partner on draft day.So why not get these 2?.I posted my latest mock(go look).Not happy with LeCounte as the other round 2 pick.He's too small IMO,but the rest I like.Add a WR in round 3

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OH we can't take a LB because we never have",well START!!!! IDC about your freakin history

Don’t have to care about it but does give you a sense of what the team will do in situation. Odds are unlikely we draft a LB especially round 1 won’t say we wouldn’t but not getting my hopes up for it 

6 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think 5 wins is a stretch. 

Depends if we get guys back the can KEEP them on the field. IDC about "upper mgt".I would fire the entire S&C staff yesterday.We complained about the med staff,but face it,they don't see any players until AFTER the fact

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Don’t have to care about it but does give you a sense of what the team will do in situation. Odds are unlikely we draft a LB especially round 1 won’t say we wouldn’t but not getting my hopes up for it 

And thats why we are a .500 club lol

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Do you really want to win a division title barely with this roster????.

As for the contract it isn’t bad for the team trading for him really think like 8-9m they have to pay him only cost a low pick and again would have to be healthy and pass the physical to even go through. 

Get our guys back,at full strength,peak at the right time,other teams have injuries and who knows? The on field players NOW won't be the on field players in December

A good video on how Nate Gerry is just killing this team.

In the play, Mills wins against his blocker, Singleton beats Connor, McLeod is free to stop the cutback to the inside, but Gerry gets blown up by McDonald (who is misidentified on the play as Ebron.) This is an example of why he can't be out there. He not only can't make the tackle, but he can't even fill a gap against a TE.

I don't know if Bradley will be any better, but he can't be worse at this point.

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

2016 Wentz, Seu, and Mills still here

2017 Geery and Barnett

2018 Best class of Goedert, Maddox, Sweat, Pryor and Mailata

2019 Dillard Sanders and JJAW. I'll reserve judgement on Dillard until he can get on the field

IDK Mailiata is my starting LOT.He's making his mistakes yes,as he learns,but this is my future LOT

And I'm telling Dillard,"you can play at LOG and be a BU LOT".If you are unhappy with that decision we will trade you and while I don't see Dillard on the right side,I think he could be a fine LOG next to Mailiata and Kelce