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1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Reagor confirmed to be playing Sunday night.

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Supposedly Will Parks is on the trade block. Don’t really know why? Does he even have any value? He’s been a puzzling player for me the whole time anyway. Seemed like several thought he was going to be some kind of savior for the secondary.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Supposedly Will Parks is on the trade block. Don’t really know why? Does he even have any value? He’s been a puzzling player for me the whole time anyway. Seemed like several thought he was going to be some kind of savior for the secondary.

Sure he has some value decent S... I thought the biggest thing he added was the ability to move Mills down when needed to CB 

After listening to #Eagles Jordan Mailata it sounds like he will start at RT on Sunday night with Jason Peters at LT.
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7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sure he has some value decent S... I thought the biggest thing he added was the ability to move Mills down when needed to CB 

After listening to #Eagles Jordan Mailata it sounds like he will start at RT on Sunday night with Jason Peters at LT.

I could only see shipping him out for seventh round pick....maybe.  Not really thinking we can even get that. So you believe he can get us more?

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I’m very curious what Rosie turned down in the Ertz offers. He might have been playing hardball to try and get a little more out of the deal and then Ertz got injured. Seems like Rosie blew that opportunity. I don’t think Ertz has any intention of suiting up for us next season.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I could only see shipping him out for seventh round pick....maybe.  Not really thinking we can even get that. So you believe he can get us more?

5th-7th rounder might be a conditional pick he isn’t come back next year so anything we get from him in my eyes would be a plus 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m very curious what Rosie turned down in the Ertz offers. He might have been playing hardball to try and get a little more out of the deal and then Ertz got injured. Seems like Rosie blew that opportunity. I don’t think Ertz has any intention of suiting up for us next season.

My guess is we likely wanted at least a 2nd for Ertz. Ravens/GB image them likely offering late 3rd or 4th rounder 

My guess Ertz is traded in the off-season likely get around the value Ravens/GB supposedly offered now likely a late 3rd-4th rounder 

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If a third was offered Rosie really screwed the pooch

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If a third was offered Rosie really screwed the pooch

 Not really think we get a 3rd for Ertz in the off-season no real difference in getting it now or in the off-season 

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2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

 Not really think we get a 3rd for Ertz in the off-season no real difference in getting it now or in the off-season 

Just cap relief...that we need desperately

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Been preaching stablity forever.I disagree on one point.I would LOVE to see ONE play with Mailata as a tackle eligible and let him truck some people(like they do in Rugby).Not as a constant play in the playbook,but just ONCE.Did you see the vids of him tossing 300 pounders like they weighed 85 pounds? Brutal!!!

They don't tackle the same in rugby, his knees are safe there... they go low here and he will get hit multiple, not like in rugby.  totally different.   If he is used on the goal line and can catch a cheap pass, I'm ok with that... dont need him rushing the ball.  almost want to see it so you and the rest can see why it's a bad idea and then we can put it to rest.   

40 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just cap relief...that we need desperately

That we need next year so nothing changes if we trade him in the off-season 

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How about Mailata at LT and Peters at LG? We can move Mailata around,but not Dillard? Why because we drafted Dillard? Mailata-LT,Peters-LG,Lane-RT Dillard RG. I would at least try this combo when Dillard returns.Pryor at RG until Dillard comes back.At any rate we need to STOP moving the pieces around,find a combo and THATS IT!!! If there is a weakness,then Wentz will see it and know that EVERY game,and how to defeat it.If you keep rotating these pieces,Wentz has no clue(aka "stability") Doing this you now have 4/5 of your line players SET.If there is a consistent weakness,Wentz will know it will happen every game and we can game plan around it(aka,do we need more roll out plays for Wentz etc).It would also tell us which line position is exposed the most,so it can be corrected with ONE player.This constant musical chair approach just leaves more questions than answers and makes life more difficult for our franchise QB 

So now we want to move Peters to LG?  Never played or practiced there.... as compared to just wanting Pryor out and having 2 guys... to Tackles remail at Tackle?    This week in particular... Whjy not have Mailata go against Lawrence?   Great challenge there IMO.  I am trying to say I trust him the most at the position this week, that could be the most important on the OL?  Why not have what you perceive as the better player match up with the guy that is their best player?  

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m very curious what Rosie turned down in the Ertz offers. He might have been playing hardball to try and get a little more out of the deal and then Ertz got injured. Seems like Rosie blew that opportunity. I don’t think Ertz has any intention of suiting up for us next season.

LOL... dude would be stealing money at next year's salary.   Loved him 2018 and prior... he's not the same player.   He's be foolish to sit out on his own, get the money son.   He won't get paid more anywhere else, or at least he shouldn't... but what do I know... the 3rd string guy got $7 mil from Chicago a few years back, only takes one sucker.  

But yeah, not sure if and what Howie was thinking.... I'd do it for a 7th rounder, get that $$ off the books.  Go young, lets get a blocker in here at TE.  

57 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

 Not really think we get a 3rd for Ertz in the off-season no real difference in getting it now or in the off-season 

cap space

12 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

That we need next year so nothing changes if we trade him in the off-season 

money from this year comes off... carry more forward

 

16 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

That we need next year so nothing changes if we trade him in the off-season 

Actually ... what would happen is... he would actually have a higher cap # this year due to all the salary cap proration counting this year.... but all of his 2021 would come off the books.   Basically at the end of the day... the rest of this season's $6.6 mil salary comes off the books.    so if we traded Ertz after week 4... would have saved us like $5 mil  towards next year's calculation.     $388,235 is his weekly salary, each week short of 17 he would play for another team, would be what we save.    To me, well worth worrying about trying to be greedy for a player who needs more around him to succeed and wasn't going to be happy making good TE money.  Plus to be honest, I think it's better for Wentz if he leaves.

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Fans that cry about Schwartz should realize we are spending 112.4 million dollars on offense compared to 64.8 mil on defense.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

They don't tackle the same in rugby, his knees are safe there... they go low here and he will get hit multiple, not like in rugby.  totally different.   If he is used on the goal line and can catch a cheap pass, I'm ok with that... dont need him rushing the ball.  almost want to see it so you and the rest can see why it's a bad idea and then we can put it to rest.   

We try Hurts and that gets ZIP,so why not try it once? I don't know why you are always against everything I say. It's ONE play for gods sake not the end of the world.If his knees are that bad/vulnerable that he can't do 1 play from near the GL he should not be on the field. I'm not asking him to run 50 yards lol.  I'm wondering what life would be like if we had taken JJ like I wanted.He's killin it in Minnesota

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So now we want to move Peters to LG?  Never played or practiced there.... as compared to just wanting Pryor out and having 2 guys... to Tackles remail at Tackle?    This week in particular... Whjy not have Mailata go against Lawrence?   Great challenge there IMO.  I am trying to say I trust him the most at the position this week, that could be the most important on the OL?  Why not have what you perceive as the better player match up with the guy that is their best player?  

YO we SIGNED him to play RG right?(or was I in a coma?) He is used to the LEFT side,so I think he would make a better LOG than a ROG?? I also explained why he could coach Mailata IN GAME by being right next to him.Once again why are you afraid to try it? It's not like we are undefeated here

Ravens and GB don't need a TE that badly.Both teams have decent enough TE's(I have them in fantasy).My default homers could use him(Carolina)

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just cap relief...that we need desperately

Why worry NOW about the cap before the season is over? If we were serious about the cap thing he would have been gone before this.Now that he is hurt,I don't see that happening.Another Alshon situation. 

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Fans that cry about Schwartz should realize we are spending 112.4 million dollars on offense compared to 64.8 mil on defense.

Sad part is alot of those money players are riding pine(again)

38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We try Hurts and that gets ZIP,so why not try it once? I don't know why you are always against everything I say. It's ONE play for gods sake not the end of the world.If his knees are that bad/vulnerable that he can't do 1 play from near the GL he should not be on the field. I'm not asking him to run 50 yards lol.  I'm wondering what life would be like if we had taken JJ like I wanted.He's killin it in Minnesota

I want to try it so then you can stop after you realize it's not going to work because it;s not rugby.  I'm all for it and for Dillard to get bullied at OG so then we can move on to the next one... maybe Wentz can replace Elliot at kicker, couldn;t be much worse.  We won't know until we try it.  

40 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We try Hurts and that gets ZIP,so why not try it once? I don't know why you are always against everything I say. It's ONE play for gods sake not the end of the world.If his knees are that bad/vulnerable that he can't do 1 play from near the GL he should not be on the field. I'm not asking him to run 50 yards lol.  I'm wondering what life would be like if we had taken JJ like I wanted.He's killin it in Minnesota

Yeah JJ is helping them win a ton up there.  

39 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

YO we SIGNED him to play RG right?(or was I in a coma?) He is used to the LEFT side,so I think he would make a better LOG than a ROG?? I also explained why he could coach Mailata IN GAME by being right next to him.Once again why are you afraid to try it? It's not like we are undefeated here

Right but then you keep missing the we would have Pryor matchup withe Lawrence... is that what is best for Wentz... what you keep harping on?  Do you want Lawrence lining up all game long vs Pryor?   In life you need to not always go by the book and understand the moment.  A weak player vs Lawrence could kill the offense.   

It's the match up game   OL and DBs need to be solid without a hole..... but flip it and one WR or one DL can cause the mismatch that totally changes the game.  I don't the coahc on hte field at LG and put in the training camp attitude on the left side... while Pryor is getting beat like a turnstile and Wentz gets his ass kicked ... because of all that great theory.  Put the best guy in front of Lawrence... to me, if its at RT .. it's Mailata over Pryor or Peters.   You can switch it back next week.  

45 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ravens and GB don't need a TE that badly.Both teams have decent enough TE's(I have them in fantasy).My default homers could use him(Carolina)

Why worry NOW about the cap before the season is over? If we were serious about the cap thing he would have been gone before this.Now that he is hurt,I don't see that happening.Another Alshon situation. 

So if you spill water out of a bottle... do you pick up the bottle before it's done spilling or just let it go?   That's why you worry about cap now, I'm sure both Alshon and Ertz have been on the trade block and they both knew it.  I'm in Ham's camp, i'm not worried about the picks we get in return as much as the extra cap space we would get.  But I want to see the young guys play anyway.  I don't think Ertz helps you win games anymore... and Alshon is basically what Fulgham gives you.  For here, I don't see any value they bring as far as help winning now.  Certainly not in the future.  I can't imagine a team not giving a late round pick for either if it were a contender.  I would think Chicago for Alshon with Foles ... Ertz in Arizona ... those would be nice fits for teams that would look to make some noise this year.  

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