If we could deal our way to an early-mid 1, 2 round 2's and 3 round 3's plus whatever else can be had we will be in good hole filling shape even this year.6 players is what we need and I believe Howie works towards that goal(Edge, DT,OT/G,CB,S,either RB,WR or LB your choice) those are the 6 for me and like I said even the 3 round 3 guys will be solid players if you pick the right ones. Howie loves the spotlight too and making all these trades accomplishes both things. The "hostage picks" should make finding trade partners easier and I suspect we add more fill ins post draft. I a, always anxious to see the UDFA's we get. We've always had a knack for finding gems in the dust pile. I'm still on the Chris Brooks(RB) train and there are some good WR's with potential to grab. The round 7's I suspect we use one on a late bloomer QB. Maybe a small school kid with potential that didn't have good coaching,nor played in tough leagues,but has the raw talent to compete with Book

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And? You were gung ho for Reagor LOL

I was gung ho to trade back for one of the many in the group of strong WR of that class. Sorry to destroy your fake news.

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So of those daunting "stout" players we selected already WHO is out RG this year?. Jurgens probably,but he is Kelces replacement(supposedly) and your tellingme Torrence is not stout? The scouts differ with you. As far as Hooker,you are inconsistent when similar players are presented,one is god the other is a loser and you have ZERO proof of Hookers transition to the NFL. Not compare Hurts senior year with Hookers,you know apples to apples?

Hurts was runner up to Joe Burrow, whom broke every college record that season. It’s ‘Stout’….not ‘stout.’ Let’s start there. Looking for a guy that fits what our coach covets….his name is Stoutland…start there.

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

"In fact, Hooker's dominant play over multiple seasons in the SEC should make it an easy decision to hand him the draft cap as the third quarterback off the board. He is a more polished and productive player than his SEC counterparts from Kentucky and Florida, and teams opting for the toolsy guys could regret bypassing the prolific passer down the road".   Bucky Brooks says round 1 QB #3. Even a fall into early 2 puts him right with Hurts,but keep those blinders on,they work great!!!! He would be a terrific guy for the Fins to grab to learn behind Tua. Anyway we're not taking him so it's a moot point. Out of the top 5 drafted QB's with the best pass to pick ratio,he is on the board of 5 TWICE(2 years) Hurts is not on that board,but stick with your erroneous ANALysis. Wrong again LOL

He did great throwing those short passes. Much more rare for those to be picked off. System QB. He has tools. Always looked to be a strong COLLEGE Qb. None of this makes any point against my opinion. Until we see any real results of accomplish in the pros. Won’t hold my breath.

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Except he was out over a year. But yeah 25 is old,Forget Brady playing into his 40's Your arguments are weak or non existent,but keep 'em coming. it just proves you more wrong with every post

I don’t remember Brady playing in his 40’s in college

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/five-potential-trade-fits-for-devin-white-why-hendon-hooker-is-the-third-best-qb Here's the entire article. now I am done with this,you are wrong and will be proven so in draft day

How can I be proven wrong on draft day? They don’t actually play that day you know?

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ham is hung up on age. QB's can play a long time. What matters is what the first 4-5 years looks like and if you sign them to the big contract. A 29-30 year old QB by then has either proven his worth or he becomes someones #2. At any rate,the point is moot,he's not coming here. Some team with a QB with 1-2 years left on their contract could pick him up as the future starter. 20,22,25 no matter,either you can play or you can't 

I just am realistically not blown away by what a guy can accomplish with a massive age advantage in sports below the pros. I just have the understanding that more 21 year olds could dominate high school football than they actually did at 17.

9 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

So would the Eagles even consider RB from Texas at 10? I am impressed with him.

The least chance of being a bust selection at 10

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Search "Dylan Mulvaney Budweiser commercial" They may have deleted them by now HAHAHA. I quit Bud when they sold out to Inbev,changed to Rolling Rock(Latrobe,PA),then they bought them too(probably because I switched and they were losing money HAHAHA). So I changed to Modelo,and they bought them. I think they own Michelob and Corona now also. So now(even though I hardly drink anymore) it will be Yuengling because that is an American beer(Don't really care for Sam Adams). Not much made here anymore...sadly :(  Apparently I am a curse on smaller brewers LOL

They still make the beer here. The company that owns it is in Belgium now though.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just am realistically not blown away by what a guy can accomplish with a massive age advantage in sports below the pros. I just have the understanding that more 21 year olds could dominate high school football than they actually did at 17.

But it's QB... he isn't physically matching up with the other guys???

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just am realistically not blown away by what a guy can accomplish with a massive age advantage in sports below the pros. I just have the understanding that more 21 year olds could dominate high school football than they actually did at 17.

If a kicker or punter was 25 years old in college... does that make him undesirable to you?    

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I was gung ho to trade back for one of the many in the group of strong WR of that class. Sorry to destroy your fake news.

Still won't admit it HAHAHAHA. Pages and pages of Reagor vs JJ. You would have traded back instead of taking JJ-more insanity lmao

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He did great throwing those short passes. Much more rare for those to be picked off. System QB. He has tools. Always looked to be a strong COLLEGE Qb. None of this makes any point against my opinion. Until we see any real results of accomplish in the pros. Won’t hold my breath.

Same as any QB ever drafted.Awesome concept

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t remember Brady playing in his 40’s in college

yeah Hooker is alot younger!!!

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just am realistically not blown away by what a guy can accomplish with a massive age advantage in sports below the pros. I just have the understanding that more 21 year olds could dominate high school football than they actually did at 17.

MASSIVE age difference. Try this instead, Either you can play the position or you can't. Age doesn't matter one bit. Hooker will be drafted before round 2 ends(round 1 if he didn't get hurt),so the fake news is on your end. Your age hangup is DUMB and illogical 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They still make the beer here. The company that owns it is in Belgium now though.

So the profits go to Belgium so they can pay Dylan

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But it's QB... he isn't physically matching up with the other guys???

25 is the new 40,didn't you know? he is already washed up at 25 lmao

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts was runner up to Joe Burrow, whom broke every college record that season. It’s ‘Stout’….not ‘stout.’ Let’s start there. Looking for a guy that fits what our coach covets….his name is Stoutland…start there.

So Torrence is not Stout because he is not stout enough for Stout. Let's start there

25 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But it's QB... he isn't physically matching up with the other guys???

 

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

If a kicker or punter was 25 years old in college... does that make him undesirable to you?    

Why is the watermelon growing on the vine larger than the apple on the tree?

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Torrence is not Stout because he is not stout enough for Stout. Let's start there

Not starting there at all. He is extremely stout. His top quality arguably. The traits he’s missing to be Stout are the problem. The athletic mobility…

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not starting there at all. He is extremely stout. His top quality arguably. The traits he’s missing to be Stout are the problem. The athletic mobility…

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/2023-nfl-draft-ocyrus-torrence-scouting-report/ read the damn scouting report-wrong AGAIN. How "athletic" do you need to be as a G trapped between the C and RT?? Please,he's plenty athletic enough and I guess "immediate starter" is not a trait Stout wants???? he's a plug and play RG who can start today. IDK how you can be wrong so often. That takes talent

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/2023-nfl-draft-ocyrus-torrence-scouting-report/ read the damn scouting report-wrong AGAIN. How "athletic" do you need to be as a G trapped between the C and RT?? Please,he's plenty athletic enough and I guess "immediate starter" is not a trait Stout wants???? he's a plug and play RG whom can start today. IDK how you can be wrong so often that takes talent

So you’d compare him to Brooks and Dickerson?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/2023-nfl-draft-ocyrus-torrence-scouting-report/ read the damn scouting report-wrong AGAIN. How "athletic" do you need to be as a G trapped between the C and RT?? Please,he's plenty athletic enough and I guess "immediate starter" is not a trait Stout wants???? he's a plug and play RG who can start today. IDK how you can be wrong so often. That takes talent

"Light on his feet and agile" is not a trait Stout wants? No sacks given up in his college career? So I will ask the question AGAIN(since I got no answer from you) who is a better RG we can draft???? It's a simple question,give me a name. You are a PRO at question avoidance

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you’d compare him to Brooks and Dickerson?

Sure why wouldn't I? better yet why wouldn't the FO and coaches?

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

Why is the watermelon growing on the vine larger than the apple on the tree?

You get more food from the watermelon lol