13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s not irrelevant at all. How many players would look more ready and better equipped to be a pro at 25 instead of 22?

Right...so now he looks ready... he will get drafted now, not 2020. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Either you make it up or aren’t comprehending what I’m stating and forming bad assumptions

You win I can't outdo  the best BS'er. congrats on your win

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Most every players draft stock would rise from their 22 year old version to their 25 year old version. Just obvious stuff here.

Idk... you don't think players plateau?  Usually the ones who don't make it in the league are the guys that peaked at the college level... whether it's 22 or 25 why does it matter.

Unless you are saying that he can't get much better now because he is already 25?  That's a different idea...but one I would counter with Kurt Warner. 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Where would he be drafted at 22? Not drafted.

Why would he be drafted since he elected to complete his education????? He wants ":life after football" OH GOD NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I didn’t say I find Hooker undraftable because he’s too old. Never said that. Said he won’t translate to the NFL is why I wouldn’t draft him. 

Right...but you don't give a reason...you only mention age.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Right...but you don't give a reason...you only mention age.

Ham knows that there is no possible way he can transition to the NFL.He knows and you can't argue about it(no clue where this BS came from)

Anyway it's a moot point,we're not taking him,yet I still find it comical

I don't think this Bijon or whoever will translate in the NFL.

If I make this statement... wouldn't it b natural for me to give a reason.    If I kept mentioning something...wouldn't people interpret that as my reason?  

For me to say it wasn't my reason , even though I brought it up constantly over and over and over again... how does that sound?  

 

https://www.rotoballer.com/which-team-could-pick-hendon-hooker-in-the-2023-nfl-draft/1146456  Just horrendous(lol) OK I'm done

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So what is your criteria for a "match"

A scheme specific type player with is running that type scheme he would fit with

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ham knows that there is no possible way he can transition to the NFL.He knows and you can't argue about it(no clue where this BS came from)

Idk... I like to hear a player lacks a certain skill...or his play is at a slower or weaker level.  QB you can critique the arm, mechanics, decision making...  Plenty of things...  

So just say it....in a court of law (or in the normal world for that matter)  you don't bring up something if it isn't important and relevant.   

Idk why it's difficult to just give a logical reason.    

This QB I don't think will be good because.   The Eagles won't draft this OL because...  not difficult.    Hooker can't read or throw... the G isn't quick enough.   Just say it without the complicated BS.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right...so now he looks ready... he will get drafted now, not 2020. 

Never said he couldn’t succeed in college(for the twentieth time). Never said he wouldn’t be drafted(for the fifteenth time). I just simply stated I don’t think he’ll amount to much as a pro.

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

His play translating to the NFL doesn’t appeal to me. Thank you for catching up.

But again....you don't give a reason...you only mention age....thabk you for making me type this 13 times because you won't answer a direct question. 

So that’s where the age come in. At 25 being a product of the Volunteer system he gained notoriety. This is being used to show how he’ll get drafted higher than I would take him and somehow means he’ll be a successful pro. I don’t agree with any of that.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Never said he couldn’t succeed in college(for the twentieth time). Never said he wouldn’t be drafted(for the fifteenth time). I just simply stated I don’t think he’ll amount to much as a pro.

For the 14th time...never asked about college... don't care about college.. I'm asking for a reason...football reason, not candles on the birthday cake...why he won't be a good pro?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So that’s where the age come in. At 25 being a product of the Volunteer system he gained notoriety. This is being used to show how he’ll get drafted higher than I would take him and somehow means he’ll be a successful pro. I don’t agree with any of that.

And on May 1st....the spot anyone gets drafted is irrelevant.   They all become a pro.    So why won't he succeed?

Endless crap. We’ll see how Hooker does in the pros. Not college. Not where he was drafted. If he becomes a successful starting NFL QB…then I’ll admit I was wrong. Only thing I stated about him.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Idk... I like to hear a player lacks a certain skill...or his play is at a slower or weaker level.  QB you can critique the arm, mechanics, decision making...  Plenty of things...  

So just say it....in a court of law (or in the normal world for that matter)  you don't bring up something if it isn't important and relevant.   

Idk why it's difficult to just give a logical reason.    

This QB I don't think will be good because.   The Eagles won't draft this OL because...  not difficult.    Hooker can't read or throw... the G isn't quick enough.   Just say it without the complicated BS.

IDK he was on track for the Heisman(win or lose that is an honor) Of the top 5 QB's recently drafted,he was on the top 5 list TWICE as one of the top 5 TD to int ratios. He got hurt and hasn't pushed hard because he wants to be ready to the season opener,so he fall some due to his injury status. So I can understand why he's not a top 10 selection,but I don't see him going past round 2(you know where we drafted the god Hurts). He is smart mature and articulate and eager to learn and get better. IDK what kind of transition issues that brings,but Ham, does I guess

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So that’s where the age come in. At 25 being a product of the Volunteer system he gained notoriety. This is being used to show how he’ll get drafted higher than I would take him and somehow means he’ll be a successful pro. I don’t agree with any of that.

He took the Vols to their first 11 win season LMAO-just TERRIBLE,ok I really am done with this BS now. I can't fix insanity

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Endless crap. We’ll see how Hooker does in the pros. Not college. Not where he was drafted. If he becomes a successful starting NFL QB…then I’ll admit I was wrong. Only thing I stated about him.

Yep just like every other drafted player needs to do-SHOCKING!!!!

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Endless crap. We’ll see how Hooker does in the pros. Not college. Not where he was drafted. If he becomes a successful starting NFL QB…then I’ll admit I was wrong. Only thing I stated about him.

So no reason then

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He took the Vols to their first 11 win season LMAO-just TERRIBLE,ok I really am done with this BS now. I can't fix insanity

This is what I’m dealing with. Great for the Vols. Still equals zero accomplishments in the NFL.

For the record...I don't care to keep score about this kid...   I'm just trying to get these conversations to move forward and have substance.

Football is by far the best sport to discuss.   So many things are involved.... so many positions, so many coaches,  different styles...etc. 

I feel it's weak to not answer in football specifics when trying to come off like some kind of sage or something.   "In my superior knowledge than you I predict this "    now I'm not going to give any particular reason though.   So we can't really have a discussion on it.  

It's odd for someone who comes off trying to make the simplest things complicated....not giving a simple football reason and putting something out to discuss, doesn't make sense?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is what I’m dealing with. Great for the Vols. Still equals zero accomplishments in the NFL.

Much like every player in this draft.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is what I’m dealing with. Great for the Vols. Still equals zero accomplishments in the NFL.

Why do you think Bijon will be a good pro?   What about his game do you think will translate to the NFL?