12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah a trade off,but now we need to keep him upright for 5 years and he needs to take less risk now IMO. That's why keeping him in weaponry will be important

We have never had this before.   Locking in a QB ...with weapons already around him.  Nice to see. 

You shouldn't put your QB in position to fail and need him to be a savior.   The QB should be looking to take the good talent around him all the way.   Hurts gets that opportunity... .McNabb, Wentz, Vick,  Randall... didn't have it.

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We all figured around 50. They went with an extra mil. I'm fine with that. In 2-3 years this contract will be cheap. Not happy with the no trade clause,but onward we go

It's 6 years though.  He gets $23 mil of the money now.

1-10 move back a little and still get Van Ness. Use the acquired pick to move up a little for Flowers. Now you have a corps of receivers(maybe the top in the league as a group of 4) for the next 3 years 

Just now, joemas6 said:

It's 6 years though.  He gets $23 mil of the money now.

Yeah,his bank account is just fine lol

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We all figured around 50. They went with an extra mil. I'm fine with that. In 2-3 years this contract will be cheap. Not happy with the no trade clause,but onward we go

Why you worried about no trade clause... reality is it doesn't mean much at all.  

There are other slot guys maybe in round 2-3 we could get. may still be better than Quez,but the top slot is Flowers and it's not close

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Why you worried about no trade clause... reality is it doesn't mean much at all.  

It does in AZ lol

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I know,but then you have like AZ with Murray,they have to keep him even if he's not playing

Not really...they can cut him in a few years.   Once you sign someone...the first 2 or 3 years are kinda where the dead money to trade or cut is the issue.    The trade issue comes toward the end of the contract.  But let's be honest... it's not going to effect anything. 

Will toss this out there. We met with Marvin Mims. He is listed as an outside,but if you look at his height and weight,he could easily be a slot guy,so there's that

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah mostly outside and as I said he can play slot if you asked him too. Most WR's can play the slot,but you are wasting his outside talent and he would need to be your first pick

I thought the same thing...the OSU WR is a slot guy who could play outside.   

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Not really...they can cut him in a few years.   Once you sign someone...the first 2 or 3 years are kinda where the dead money to trade or cut is the issue.    The trade issue comes toward the end of the contract.  But let's be honest... it's not going to effect anything. 

OK your the contract guy.so I will take your word,but they have a debacle in AZ going on

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I thought the same thing...the OSU WR is a slot guy who could play outside.   

He plays out or X most times,but he can play the slot. He is versatile,but making him only a slot,limits his talents IMO

So if you like him and Smith can play slot,then they can interchange. Also if you want Njigba he has to be pick 1 and you may need to move up for him,so I was looking at guys we didnt have to move up for

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It does in AZ lol

Not at the moment though... they won't trade Murray because of dead money.  But in reality the no trade clause means the player will reject going to certain teams.   The player still gets paid during his guaranteed years...which Murray is still under.  

So in your Murray example... it might come into play in 2 or 3 years... not yet though.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah mostly outside and as I said he can play slot if you asked him too. Most WR's can play the slot,but you are wasting his outside talent and he would need to be your first pick

Smith-Njigba, who has been nursing a hamstring injury since the first half of OSU’s opener against Notre Dame, has been lined up in the slot 79.1% of his career offensive plays for the Buckeyes, per Pro Football Focus. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Not at the moment though... they won't trade Murray because of dead money.  But in reality the no trade clause means the player will reject going to certain teams.   The player still gets paid during his guaranteed years...which Murray is still under.  

So in your Murray example... it might come into play in 2 or 3 years... not yet though.

IDK if he will start this year,but they have to pay him,so IDK what all that means. I'm not a contract savvy guy

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He plays out or X most times,but he can play the slot. He is versatile,but making him only a slot,limits his talents IMO

I would pick him... I would move AJ and Smith into the slot on some plays...this kid could play outside on those plays or when they come out.

More versatility for the offense 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Smith-Njigba, who has been nursing a hamstring injury since the first half of OSU’s opener against Notre Dame, has been lined up in the slot 79.1% of his career offensive plays for the Buckeyes, per Pro Football Focus. 

That's what I've been seeing too.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Smith-Njigba, who has been nursing a hamstring injury since the first half of OSU’s opener against Notre Dame, has been lined up in the slot 79.1% of his career offensive plays for the Buckeyes, per Pro Football Focus. 

News to me,I see him at X,but if thats the case then I am wrong. However he still would have to be your first pick

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK your the contract guy.so I will take your word,but they have a debacle in AZ going on

Right.but has nothing to do with no trade clause

No trade clause had to be conceded in such a team friendly deal. Not sure if everybody here understands what all is so team friendly about this contract. The huge part is the length. The longer the contract the better for the team. A five year extension is a huge win for the team.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I would pick him... I would move AJ and Smith into the slot on some plays...this kid could play outside on those plays or when they come out.

More versatility for the offense 

The question is do you want to give up a top edge guy? I mean there is discussion either way and we have had many in to talk to privately,so it's one or the other

 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

News to me,I see him at X,but if thats the case then I am wrong. However he still would have to be your first pick

Yeah... I'm saying invest thst pick to help your QB. I've been saying that for a while...the idea should be to show him your investment in getting him help. 

The main outside guy at OSU is Marvin Harrison jr

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No trade clause had to be conceded in such a team friendly deal. Not sure if everybody here understands what all is so team friendly about this contract. The huge part is the length. The longer the contract the better for the team. A five year extension is a huge win for the team.

The no trade clause is for show...doesn't mean anything.