Schedule is tougher. Have new coordinators on both sides of the ball. Is it possible to have the success with health nearly the same?

Last year you have Gannon running Fangio D …with Fangio supervising. Do you really feel as confident about Desai with Patricia overseeing? I see things more likely of Patricia undermining Desai to Rosie. Could create divides with players also. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I haven’t been real high on him being the guy. Wanted Fangio. Few others were strong candidates. All those guys took other jobs. Knew Desai would get the job based on being available and not being a drastic change up schematically. But these aren’t just my thoughts. They seem to be the league’s thoughts as well. Our own FO showed they felt similar. I want to win it all…so of course I believe it’s an important role.

I believe Fangio is the past...not the future.  

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t agree with this opinion. Time moves on? Need new blood? Nope…need the guy who is the master of this D Scheme. Getting a younger less experienced guy that is trying to run Fangio’s D isn’t a better answer than getting Fangio to run his scheme.

See...you have to make everything so complicated. 

Ill ask you..  who do think is a better coach Holmgren or your boy Andy???  

Parcels or Belicheck?

There are times where the new blood is  better.  It's evolution.  You take everything from the teacher and then you add your own. 

The league this and that...the Eagles and the league considered Russell Wilson better than Hurts.    

We have gone over countless times where Howie was " lucky " plan A didn't work.    But for some reason you have Fangio as this guru... then why was he available?   If he is so good he shouldn't have been.    It's evolution... you take his ideas and you build on from there.  Why not Desai.   The players seem to like the brutha... was Sirianni's choice...  you think this game is so complicated that these players can't play in different schemes?  They can't continue to learn.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Last year you have Gannon running Fangio D …with Fangio supervising. Do you really feel as confident about Desai with Patricia overseeing? I see things more likely of Patricia undermining Desai to Rosie. Could create divides with players also. 

I feel less confident because of the opposing offenses... that's the biggest factor.   Football...not rocket science. 

49 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I believe Fangio is the past...not the future.  

This coming from the guy that thinks a SB can only be duplicated by ways it’s been previously accomplished. How is Fangio in the past? His philosophy and scheme is arguably the biggest blueprint utilized in NFL D today.

Fangio clearly has been around for years. So his ideas have been around. But we lost a young coordinator that tried to emulate him and hired another trying to do the same. All while Fangio himself was the top Defensive Commodity this offseason.

48 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See...you have to make everything so complicated. 

Ill ask you..  who do think is a better coach Holmgren or your boy Andy???  

Parcels or Belicheck?

There are times where the new blood is  better.  It's evolution.  You take everything from the teacher and then you add your own. 

The league this and that...the Eagles and the league considered Russell Wilson better than Hurts.    

We have gone over countless times where Howie was " lucky " plan A didn't work.    But for some reason you have Fangio as this guru... then why was he available?   If he is so good he shouldn't have been.    It's evolution... you take his ideas and you build on from there.  Why not Desai.   The players seem to like the brutha... was Sirianni's choice...  you think this game is so complicated that these players can't play in different schemes?  They can't continue to learn.

Gannon was the choice. Fangio was the choice. Those are proven. Several other respected D minds that took other jobs instead of coming here. Desai was the fallback plan. Not even completely based on confidence in him as much as he was the best guy left that ran the same scheme. So it’s not about running a different scheme at all…like you question. It’s about getting the guy with such smaller change to try and gut the ground running as fast as possible towards success.

 It’s obvious why I have Fangio as this guru. We hired Gannon believing in him while he looked towards Fangio as the guru. Then took a huge leap last season actually bringing in Fangio as a paid guru…for us just last season. Fangio lost his job as a HC. So maybe he wasn’t cutout for the HC job. But he thrives as a DC. That’s why he was available. Even while he was available he was going around speaking and teaching other DCs. He was guru-ing. Exactly what he’s been doing since fired from being a HC. We stopped his guru-ing tour for a nice paycheck to do it full time for us last season. Then he was the hottest DC candidate. Pretty much the most respected path of a coach being available. Lost his HC job. Guru-ed freelance while taking a slight break. Hired to guru our DC that was fast tracking to become a HC. Gannon was so highly thought of…and we hired Fangio to guru him…officially. Think on that. Then was the hottest candidate to this offseason. 
  To me, this seems like the easy most obvious stuff…the opposite of complicated for sure.

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This coming from the guy that thinks a SB can only be duplicated by ways it’s been previously accomplished. How is Fangio in the past? His philosophy and scheme is arguably the biggest blueprint utilized in NFL D today.

Chip Kelly has a lot of his stuff in the league too.   Move on from Fangio.... let's get the next guy. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Chip Kelly has a lot of his stuff in the league too.   Move on from Fangio.... let's get the next guy. 

Exactly what you said about going to Chipper from the Bronze Standard AR

Did the Eagles resign Bradberry before or after hiring Desai?    Did Bradberry take less money to play with the Eagles and for Desai?

 

But also you have to realize what Siri thinks about D philosophy. He preaches a D that doesn’t give up big plays. That’s what he’s looking for. Haven’t heard him talk about a dominating suffocating D.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly what you said about going to Chipper from the Bronze Standard AR

In case you still haven’t figured this out…the new guy, Chipper, not worthy of coaching his gimmicks in the NFL. AR is arguably the top coach in the NFL. Going to the Hall of Fame.

Barkley, Jacobs and Pollardall about to hit the contract signing deadline. Could be interesting.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I believe Fangio is the past...not the future.  

Fangio is the present. This team is looking to take care of business now.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Fangio is the present. This team is looking to take care of business now.

Who is Fangio coaching for now?

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Who is Fangio coaching for now?

We lost him over Rosie making a fuss to switch picks with Zona to the Phins

Phins are on a huge push. Got called out for tampering trying to bring Brady in last season. While trying to bring in Sean Payton. They missed out on them but still been pulling huge moves.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

After week four of Siri first season they’d all be fired if that was the approach.

So you're giving DeSai 4 weeks?

Ped and Siri both made bonehead rookie coaching mistakes/bad play calling. It;s how you learn like anything else. You take your lumps and correct them. A good coach will learn and peak at the end like the players should. Ped looks good now that he is away from Howie and the Wentz debacle,so should we have kept Ped? Do you want Ped back? AR never could get this team over .600-.700 maybe because of my next sentence. IMO the coaching wasn't as effective as Howie learning how to draft. Even a 1/2 arse coach will look good with star players unless you really suck. You wanted Gannon out,you got your wish. The fact we didn't get "your guy" we will hear about the entire year until we hit post season,then it's all good LOL. 

56 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you're giving DeSai 4 weeks?

You suggested you’ll judge after four weeks…not me. Showed how if your opinion was applied equally Siri would have been fired after his four weeks.

 

This literally was your statement not mine. You said you’ll judge after four weeks. How can you come back and question me like I said it instead of yourself? Crazy

37 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ped and Siri both made bonehead rookie coaching mistakes/bad play calling. It;s how you learn like anything else. You take your lumps and correct them. A good coach will learn and peak at the end like the players should. Ped looks good now that he is away from Howie and the Wentz debacle,so should we have kept Ped? Do you want Ped back? AR never could get this team over .600-.700 maybe because of my next sentence. IMO the coaching wasn't as effective as Howie learning how to draft. Even a 1/2 arse coach will look good with star players unless you really suck. You wanted Gannon out,you got your wish. The fact we didn't get "your guy" we will hear about the entire year until we hit post season,then it's all good LOL. 

My guy…was the teams guy. Fangio came all but just short of admitting he was taking the DC job in Philly if it wasn’t for the Gannon scandal Rosie had to pursue. Let Gannon go. Don’t offer him so more thanHC money to stay here as DC. If he wants one of the lowest HC jobs over staying here…beat it. Don’t need him. But Rosie  made such a big stink about Gannon leaving he ruined keeping Fangio. Freaking stupid. If not so obvious in the first place….surely should be understood now in hindsight.

I believe we could have gotten Fangio as DC with Desai under him as assistant DC. Fairly plausible scenario

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ped and Siri both made bonehead rookie coaching mistakes/bad play calling. It;s how you learn like anything else. You take your lumps and correct them. A good coach will learn and peak at the end like the players should. Ped looks good now that he is away from Howie and the Wentz debacle,so should we have kept Ped? Do you want Ped back? AR never could get this team over .600-.700 maybe because of my next sentence. IMO the coaching wasn't as effective as Howie learning how to draft. Even a 1/2 arse coach will look good with star players unless you really suck. You wanted Gannon out,you got your wish. The fact we didn't get "your guy" we will hear about the entire year until we hit post season,then it's all good LOL. 

Of course we should have kept Pedey. Looked pretty good coaching to me when we won our first SB. Not some new revelation come around just now in Jax.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We lost him over Rosie making a fuss to switch picks with Zona to the Phins

So Fangio coaches for Miami....is he their DC?