Too early to circle CB as the main need in next year’s draft. You guys are forgetting that we have a corner that beat out these other guys your bringing up for a roster spot. He is a core ST guy also. Suffered an injury is all. Hopefully he’ll be back here after the bye. He really seems like an excellent fit for this system. He’s the actual outside CB.

6 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Would i change that? Umm yes I would to be honest because it costs this team. And so far it hasn't yielded success. 

So who would you change it to?

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to go back before the season started to really recognize some things happening with Wentz I believe. COVID shutdown the preseason. That’s a factor. Just no denying that. But go back before that. What was going on with Wentz? No Mas doesn’t believe things nonfootball related effect anything. But I’d say this is the key.

Covid was not a factor, please, all teams were up against the same wall. OH NO, we're back to he can't play because he got married and he can't play because he had a baby(actually it was the WIFE that did).So, we need to contractually tell draftees they cannot go on with their lives if we sign them. I'm throwing the BS flag here. On the bright side as far as the team goes there is nothing to complain about this week 🙂

52 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Too early to circle CB as the main need in next year’s draft. You guys are forgetting that we have a corner that beat out these other guys your bringing up for a roster spot. He is a core ST guy also. Suffered an injury is all. Hopefully he’ll be back here after the bye. He really seems like an excellent fit for this system. He’s the actual outside CB.

CB has been a need for this team for as long as I can remember.We actually spent a round 2 on one, then in our infinite wisdom, let him walk after a multi year wait, because we didn't know how to use him(this happens too often) MS2 was a bust, AG was "iffy". Just get me guys who will PLAY, not line the pine, not overpaid prima donnas, not head cases that need "therapy" on how to catch, give me guys who will PLAY. Where is Dillard? Yep another pine rider

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Too early to circle CB as the main need in next year’s draft. You guys are forgetting that we have a corner that beat out these other guys your bringing up for a roster spot. He is a core ST guy also. Suffered an injury is all. Hopefully he’ll be back here after the bye. He really seems like an excellent fit for this system. He’s the actual outside CB.

No we not forgetting anything you just like to over value guys... Craig James isn’t better then the two guys we cut 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to go back before the season started to really recognize some things happening with Wentz I believe. COVID shutdown the preseason. That’s a factor. Just no denying that. But go back before that. What was going on with Wentz? No Mas doesn’t believe things nonfootball related effect anything. But I’d say this is the key.

32 teams dealt with COVID if anything Wentz was better then a good portion of teams being with the same coach and system and still had guys around him he has played with so just a lame excuse

outskde of football getting married having a child whatever else doesn’t excuse terrible play either.

Is the poor roster effecting Wentz play sure he likely throws a few more Tds he likely has couple less ints. But nothing excuses his dumb decision making he doing things you would expect from a rookie in his 5th season and it’s been on a weekly bases no.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

2017 was the right one, let's get back there

IDK Joe,frankly we had fairly mediocre players(mostly), but the one thing we DID have was 22 guys shooting for 1 goal, not players going through the motions for a paycheck. We had talent,but that was amplified by emotion and drive. Underdogs always. When "people" say we can't win we go out and win. When they say "we got this" we get our arses handed to us. Ped was a rook coach,the players were rather mediocre by "star standards", yet we won it all because we BELIEVED. We let the SB get into our heads and forgot what it took to get there. We played as a team of nobodys and we were invincible. We had old guys, young guys, misfits, other teams rejects, but the attitude was all different. We played as one. THAT'S what I want back 

Saying both Miles and Alshon should be back after the bye that good news. Find a way to get Alshon on the field I’d like to see him in the slot could mix him and Fulgham there in 3 WR sets.

Also seen Wis got waived by the Steelers could be a G option for us depending on Semaulo Heath. Wis at LG and Herbig at RG.

Assuming we won’t move JP to G 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So who would you change it to?

There's the question. Don't know. I mean we aren't going to be high enough to take Fields or Lawrence. Mind you I'd see what Hurts has. I saw earlier he's got the second highest passer rating in the NFL behind Russell Wilson...

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

There's the question. Don't know. I mean we aren't going to be high enough to take Fields or Lawrence. Mind you I'd see what Hurts has. I saw earlier he's got the second highest passer rating in the NFL behind Russell Wilson...

The passer rating means nothing he has what 3 pass attempts lol so that’s taken with a. Grain of salt.

But no you don’t make a change at QB worst case Wentz is terrible next year so look at benching him see what you have in Hurts and we can move on from Wentz after 2021 I believe 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK Joe,frankly we had fairly mediocre players(mostly), but the one thing we DID have was 22 guys shooting for 1 goal, not players going through the motions for a paycheck. We had talent,but that was amplified by emotion and drive. Underdogs always. When "people" say we can't win we go out and win. When they say "we got this" we get our arses handed to us. Ped was a rook coach,the players were rather mediocre by "star standards", yet we won it all because we BELIEVED. We let the SB get into our heads and forgot what it took to get there. We played as a team of nobodys and we were invincible. We had old guys, young guys, misfits, other teams rejects, but the attitude was all different. We played as one. THAT'S what I want back 

Frank Reich says Hello

After the week 2 loss to KC, Doug made the best decision of his career finally admitting he needed to give away some key areas of the OC role to Frank. This offense changed and turned into the top offense in the league. Doug said himself, Frank mage the suggestion to look at the past film and change the scheme to better fit Foles for the playoffs.There is a reason why under Doug we have the bottom first half offense in all 4 years he fully ran the Offense and that one year we were number 1.  Yes the emotions of the players was a big factor but without that decision we dont sniff the SB. Frank was a huge part of that years success. Emotions only get you so far. The leadership is the key factor for me that needs to change. 

23 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

There's the question. Don't know. I mean we aren't going to be high enough to take Fields or Lawrence. Mind you I'd see what Hurts has. I saw earlier he's got the second highest passer rating in the NFL behind Russell Wilson...

You make a change more at HC/OC before you change the QB. Easier to find a new HC and OC then a QB with the skills. We know what Wentz can do with the right OC and QB coach. Doug still hasnt been able to prove he is a good OC. The one year we had a successful top offense was the one year Doug was smart and gave up some key roles to someone else. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The passer rating means nothing he has what 3 pass attempts lol so that’s taken with a. Grain of salt.

But no you don’t make a change at QB worst case Wentz is terrible next year so look at benching him see what you have in Hurts and we can move on from Wentz after 2021 I believe 

So two things. Firstly that was a joke about Hurts. 

Secondly, you don't want to wait too long to determine what you have in Hurts because you may be in a position to draft a top QB in the next couple of years if Wentz stinks. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

So two things. Firstly that was a joke about Hurts. 

Secondly, you don't want to wait too long to determine what you have in Hurts because you may be in a position to draft a top QB in the next couple of years if Wentz stinks. 

Again two things A. Over reacting on one bad year relax plus he is paid nothing we can do with Wentz right now. B. Again next year as I stated I’d Wentz is still struggling team is terrible then yea you probably should look to make the change see what you have and Hurts . 
Want to say after next year we could if we wanted to get out of Wentz contract so that would be the time to look into other options.

But ive stated I think Wentz is a good QB I think he will turn things around even if I’m critical of his stupid mistakes and refuse to give him excuses for them. He has to improve and get better and think he will

3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

There's the question. Don't know. I mean we aren't going to be high enough to take Fields or Lawrence. Mind you I'd see what Hurts has. I saw earlier he's got the second highest passer rating in the NFL behind Russell Wilson...

Hurts is a gadget QB for the moment. I hope we didn't waste a round 2 pick for that. We run the same stupid 1-2 plays with Hurts,so the D's are like "ok" we got this. He has shown me nothing to make me think he can start, and I suppose why we will CLING to Suds yet again. I recall a TERRIBLE year for Aaron not too long ago, in GB, when he had no tools.I want a solidified O line with the same guys playing in the same spot EVERY WEEK. Only then can I judge if Wentz is regressing. It's always easy to blame the QB when they are panicked and rushed and hit and generally beaten up every game and trying to win games with little help. Wentz does still make some bonehead decisions, but once again it's easy to see from a Laz-Y-Boy. I like Scott, but he's not Sanders. I like our young WR's and hope the chemistry builds. I want to see what Wentz can do by giving him the time we gave him in the 2017 season before he got hurt. That's the only way I will know

3 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Frank Reich says Hello

After the week 2 loss to KC, Doug made the best decision of his career finally admitting he needed to give away some key areas of the OC role to Frank. This offense changed and turned into the top offense in the league. Doug said himself, Frank mage the suggestion to look at the past film and change the scheme to better fit Foles for the playoffs.There is a reason why under Doug we have the bottom first half offense in all 4 years he fully ran the Offense and that one year we were number 1.  Yes the emotions of the players was a big factor but without that decision we dont sniff the SB. Frank was a huge part of that years success. Emotions only get you so far. The leadership is the key factor for me that needs to change. 

Yeah, we had a nice staff then. But as you know,on any team, those get poached and it should be on the HC to replace them with a similar person without screwing up what the departing person gave you. It's difficult to do, yet some teams are annually competitive even when they lose those guys.Why can't we do it? It's not like we are an expansion team with 3 years under us(like LV who is about as good as we are already).I thought it was brilliant of them to get Mayock on their staff.Terrific guy to pick draftees. Why didn't we go get him? Just because you lose someone talented(Reich) we can't find a talent elsewhere? Doesn't even have to be at the same spot.You need to be able to locate these guys. IDK how the scouting dept works. We should have scouts for draft picks and scouts for "FA's that fit". If we don't, I really think it would be beneficial if we did. I am no scout, yet I and others on this board have located really good draft picks. Some on here would be much better than me at picking up FA's that fit.When I lived in FL, it was a hotbed and I got to see alot of guys play in person. Watching highlight vids is fine(I think they need to post lowlight vids in all fairness) but most of the guys I saw in person and reco'd for us are doing ok. SO, as far as Reich, you can check back and see where I said he was a key. Fact remains, we haven't replaced him or anyone else with better(or even similar). We also had  fluke ST's squad, that rule the roost then also, so that kind of fell away since '17 also. IDK what the answer is, but we aren't finding it. I gave Ped a pass year 1 and 2. I see no real improvement if he is choosing his own staff. He also is not improving on the parts of his game he was weak on. He is still weak on the same parts he has always been. So maybe therein lies the problem?

Gotta admit I was really jealous when I found out Mayock was going to a team other than the Birds. Miss the ST's Philly had also.

3-4-1 getting healthy and a tough schedule should be an interesting finish to the season.

Should take care of business cards the division don’t want to say we will win but on paper we have the best squad still.

if we can hang around maybe upset some of the class of the NFC would speak volumes for us if we make the playoffs 

Saints look totally like a complete team

Taysom Hill is a stud

14 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So you don’t want a QB that is good enough to bring people up???? I agree the team needs to improve but I also don’t want a QB who shrinks because the talent isn’t good enough either. If that’s the case might as well kept Foles and paid much less 

How much did the QBs... playing at Rodgers and Wilson levels... bring their teams up to where they were able to win a SB?   That's my point.  I can't keep harping on how Wentz fails to not look great with a bad team.  I'm tired of having him with a bad team.   Throw a bubble screen for a TD, throw a jump ball, go through a game without being hit 15 times for once.   Enough of the uphill battle.  

If the same result happens like last year.. is it enough yet.  Congrats will be 2 years in a row you get a poor team to win a bad division.   Congrats for that individual effort.  But hey, remember that play where you should have thrown the ball away.  Let's keep harping on that one.  

Meanwhile... Foles still stinks, Wilson made a lot of mistakes... and Brady was awful.    It's the life of a QB. Bad game, move on.  The bigger picture is the team.  In the cases of the 3 QBs I just mentioned, their teams had issues today that led to poor QB play.  We have had those issues for like 40 straight games.  Does it excuse the poor play of our QB, or the 3 mentioned today... no ... but let's fix these issues and go from there.  

Giants DL looked pretty decent today... let's have a game where we can keep them off our QB.  Then the rest is up to him.

14 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We go back to 2017 all the time the height of Wentz but fact is that team was built so great that we won it all not having Wentz that just the facts of it. 
 

If we can only win when we have this great team around Wentz then why are we paying him franchise QB money???? With the money spent on Wentz we are not going to build that strong a roster again that’s the benefits of a QB on a rookie deal. You pay your QB all that money to offset some of that still need a good around the QB but when your QB is making stupid mistakes that rookies make that has nothing to do with the roster. 

Because you get a franchise QB... to start... then you put the team around him.  

Otherwise... you could ask the same question of why they paid Rodgers and Wilson too.  Football is a team sport.  Take away the QBs... and look at the rosters across the league...this is where we trail the most.

12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You have to go back before the season started to really recognize some things happening with Wentz I believe. COVID shutdown the preseason. That’s a factor. Just no denying that. But go back before that. What was going on with Wentz? No Mas doesn’t believe things nonfootball related effect anything. But I’d say this is the key.

Yeah, he had to pick the color napkin at his wedding.   Life changer.   Much more impact than using 13 OL and 10 WRs ....lol.

9 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again two things A. Over reacting on one bad year relax plus he is paid nothing we can do with Wentz right now. B. Again next year as I stated I’d Wentz is still struggling team is terrible then yea you probably should look to make the change see what you have and Hurts . 

If this was one bad year then fine but it isn't. We have seen a very up and down Wentz since 2017. At what point do we recognise that this is what he is? And that he's not the elite QB we say in 2017?

Do I think he's this bad? No I don't think he's a bottom 5 QB like he's been this year. But do I think he's a top 10 QB who can help lead this team to a SB? No I don't anymore. 

34 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

If this was one bad year then fine but it isn't. We have seen a very up and down Wentz since 2017. At what point do we recognise that this is what he is? And that he's not the elite QB we say in 2017?

Do I think he's this bad? No I don't think he's a bottom 5 QB like he's been this year. But do I think he's a top 10 QB who can help lead this team to a SB? No I don't anymore. 

I play "what if". SO what IF you took Wentz and dropped him off in New Orleans? My guess is after little time for chemistry, he would do as well as Brees and I wonder what Brees would do here with 1/2 corps at RB,newbie WR's and an inconistent O line and a 3rd string TE.IDK maybe that can be simulated on Madden.Give it a shot lol