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On 8/3/2023 at 7:07 PM, joemas6 said:

You are not pointing out anything.   We have depth at C.   Probably best in the league.    

You are concerned about practice.   That's not the same as a game. 

Totally pointing at getting good practice in not actual games.

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On 8/3/2023 at 7:42 PM, joemas6 said:

Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Jurgens,  Lane

Kelce gets hurt...

Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Driscoll, Lane

Jurgens gets hurt...

Mailata, Opeta, Dickerson, Driscoll, Lane.

Obviously losing Kelce is a concern as is losing any All Pro.   However,  if the next 2 guys to replace him are already starters... then really the concern is the next 2 guys.     

To me my next concern if Kelce was already injured... would be losing Lane / Mailata.    To me it seems Driscoll is the 6th man regardless of who goes out first.... but where do you want him playing?

The depth at T to me right now should be main concern. Who is the 4th T.    Jurgens and Dickerson being the next 2 at C... seems pretty good. Driscoll and Opeta/ Steen at G...  that seems serviceable.     Driscoll and who else at OT????    That could really limit the offense. 

Toth in camp... not my concern 

Where we are at right now. In TC and getting ready for PS games. Need to develop players and figure out the 53 and depth charts. So be nice if some of these other players could get some real shots at making the team. Try to figure out ways for the key starters to go into week one healthy and have their best shot at lasting all season. Hopefully even more games than that. So you are discussing a different subject.

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On 8/3/2023 at 7:07 PM, joemas6 said:

You are not pointing out anything.   We have depth at C.   Probably best in the league.    

You are concerned about practice.   That's not the same as a game. 

Exactly discussing TC and PS. Not a game. Still important

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:36 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

WOW you have the FUTURE plays all figured out. Which game will this be in so I can heavy bet it? if Toth sucks he won't be on the field ............EVER!!!! Why do you make up these scenarios??? This is what PRACTICE is for,to weed them out. How else do you know if they suck unless they practice???? Siri isn't seeing this?? I think he is. By the same token you give the lesser players EVERY chance to make the team. As things progress,you make your cut decisions. it happens every year. IDK why this year is suddenly different.If Toth stinks he goes away and we'll snag another teams cut that is better or he goes on the PS. From a SB appearance to losing a load of good players,then producing a team that will contend AGAIN within a year just shows how awesome Howie is. IDK of anyone else that could have done it. Not all acquisitions work,you know that. SO why in the world do you think Toth would play AT ALL??? Our "Professionals" aren't going to collapse from a few bad practice snaps please. This isn't Pee wee's

I don’t believe Toth will actually play. That’s the point. He’s our fourth best C. Kind of backs up all along the line. But don’t confuse what I’m saying and put words in my mouth. You and No Mas are taking my issues I’m having with practice and applying it to real games. Not anything that I stated.

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:45 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMFAO I have no response to this(but I'm gonna try anyhow),Totally moronic. EVERY snap is an injury chance. When has Kelce been injured for any length of time? He is the #1 C in this league and now you're going to ":manage him"? I think not. Once again you are back to "pull everyone out" when clearly they want to go out and kick arse. You don't "manage" guys,you let them do their jobs and earn their pay. And while I'm all for tossing a few guys in in garbage time,make sure it's garbage time first. leading 28-24 with 3 minutes left is not that time. You want to "manage" Kelces time and put Hurts at risk? Really? If Kelce gets hurts he and the coach will decide if he comes out,not you. These guys want to play,EVERY snap they can. Some even play hurt because they are ballers.Then you have fools(like Miami) that rush Tua back in for repeated injuries. I see no indication from this staff that we are that STUPID

Let’s count the meaningless PS snaps are key starters play. Kelce and Lane need very few. Looking at getting through like twenty games. Just be stupid for Kelce to pickup and stupid nagging injury in a PS game.

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:45 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMFAO I have no response to this(but I'm gonna try anyhow),Totally moronic. EVERY snap is an injury chance. When has Kelce been injured for any length of time? He is the #1 C in this league and now you're going to ":manage him"? I think not. Once again you are back to "pull everyone out" when clearly they want to go out and kick arse. You don't "manage" guys,you let them do their jobs and earn their pay. And while I'm all for tossing a few guys in in garbage time,make sure it's garbage time first. leading 28-24 with 3 minutes left is not that time. You want to "manage" Kelces time and put Hurts at risk? Really? If Kelce gets hurts he and the coach will decide if he comes out,not you. These guys want to play,EVERY snap they can. Some even play hurt because they are ballers.Then you have fools(like Miami) that rush Tua back in for repeated injuries. I see no indication from this staff that we are that STUPID

Every snap is an injury risk. We saw Siri minimize the contact before week one to levels I’ve never seen any coach do so far. These guys are getting so much better at learning in the class room. Then he uses walk throughs to explain options on the field. Managing the risk of your top players is a huge part of the coaches job. Doubt we see much of the big star players the whole PS. Siri prefers inter squad practice for most of that it seems.

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:47 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

So fix the C spot and now have issues at LG??? You're only shifting the problem,not solving it

We have three good C for the real games. Not any real issue for the roster. But we are trying to develop the whole team. The problem is the plan is to have all three C as starters. LG, C and RG. So we can shift during the season. But in TC we are struggling over using the fourth string C. Toth is one of those can play all along the Oline type guys. But not sure he can actually play any of those spots well. C looking to maybe be his weakest spot at that. Got a new OC. Johnson needs to get things going for the first time on his watch. But need to do the grinding with the guys that aren’t so old and important like Kelce. So who’s calling the blocking assignments even? Not thinking Toth is the right guy. It’s been said that he isn’t even getting the snap correct. Then you get into the actual blocking assignments. Does he know where he’s supposed to go?

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:48 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

When did the birds hire you to make these decisions? Asking for a friend

I’m not always correct. But it’s fair to ask and consider these questions. Sadly we’ve seen the guys we’ve hired blow too many of these type things over the years as well.

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:48 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

When did the birds hire you to make these decisions? Asking for a friend

You guys crucified me about managing Davis coming back from injury last season. You mostly all seemed to think the coaches would make the correct choice about it. I thought he should have been given extra time just to make sure. But then he never seemed to be any good after his return. So seems pretty clear they missed that call.

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:51 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

What do you mean chances? I though Toth was snapping? And why you are in panic mode? Kelce will play,maybe even the last pre game. You're like a quija board looking for demons. let Siri and the staff do their jobs. You have to trust them,because literally you have no choice at this point

Think I’ve seen enough of this game to understand the dynamics a bit. Coaches tend to push guys to play a bit too much. 

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On 8/4/2023 at 1:55 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

So he goes away. It's part of the process. SO???? We find another #3 C who can play better. And? He probably never plays either. IDK why AJ is taking snaps,he could get hurt. Smith needs to ride pine as well. If Siri thinks Toth could be the #3 RG maybe he stays. Thats up to Siri,not me or you. You are already in panic mode over a #3 C and we haven't even played a pre game yet

Siri has really cut practice times down to so much less than the old days. So feel it’s important to be efficient. Get things correct. So many of these nonstarters this is their shot to earn a job even.

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On 8/4/2023 at 2:04 AM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Did you play sand lot ball when you were little? I did. Sometimes I skinned my knee, or fell wrong/got tackled and was sore for few days,but I was back at it the next weekend and I wasn't even getting paid. Now you're telling our PRO staff they don't know what they're doing? If Toth is that bad he will never see the field

I don’t see him ever seeing the field in any real games. I’m saying he’s sounding like he isn’t quality enough even for practice.

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11 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Josh Sills found Not Guity of rape.

Do the Eagle still have the rights to him?

We should. Commish put him on the exempt list I believe

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We should. Commish put him on the exempt list I believe

I wasnt sure if the team released him.

Glad they had the guts to let the legal process play out.

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t believe Toth will actually play. That’s the point. He’s our fourth best C. Kind of backs up all along the line. But don’t confuse what I’m saying and put words in my mouth. You and No Mas are taking my issues I’m having with practice and applying it to real games. Not anything that I stated.

LMAO why the F are we posting pages on a guy that won't play then? I'm not confused,you are, babbling on and on about things you don't control. If he sucks he's GONE,no mystery is there? And if you are naive enough to think other PROFESSIONAL players would be devastated by 1 or 2 broken plays at PRACTICE,I have no hope for you

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Every snap is an injury risk. We saw Siri minimize the contact before week one to levels I’ve never seen any coach do so far. These guys are getting so much better at learning in the class room. Then he uses walk throughs to explain options on the field. Managing the risk of your top players is a huge part of the coaches job. Doubt we see much of the big star players the whole PS. Siri prefers inter squad practice for most of that it seems.

How many injuries under other coaches vs Siri? I would like to hear your answer to this. You act like Siri is clueless. We were pretty injury free under Siri? Why don't you let the man do his JOB????  A boxer can get hurt sparring,but what does he do? Sit out until the title fight? NOPE he hones his skill set,gets stronger to AVOID INJURY and learns HOW to avoid it. You're just being DUMB pounding this useless point. A boxer set for a title match will spar(risking injury),he will RISK INJURY in a few tune up fights before the big test. I see this no differently. IDK why you are enamored with a few bad snaps from a guy who probably will be cut-WHO CARES?????

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not always correct. But it’s fair to ask and consider these questions. Sadly we’ve seen the guys we’ve hired blow too many of these type things over the years as well.

Nope,it's not at all fair to question Siri's authority as a coach and that's what you are doing. Go root for a bubble ball team.You can sprain your ankle walking to practice from your car,so should they all be carted in,coddled like pansies? These are WARRIORS,this isn't basketball,bowling of golf LOL

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t see him ever seeing the field in any real games. I’m saying he’s sounding like he isn’t quality enough even for practice.

Then why worry? Unreal micromanagement of BS Malarkey. Giving every player we have a chance to make the team,that's his JOB. I'm sure he(siri and his staff) sees the weakness and he will hit the bricks. Like this is a first somehow????

55 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Hopefully he stayed in shape.

If he has,or I assume he can get back fairly fast he can be a helpful BU to the G position we've been talking about and the depth would be welcomed if he can play at all. he's behind,so he will have to work harder and faster to make the cut. I hope be can do it. I'm sure this takess a huge amount off him,now he can concentrate on his craft. I wish him the best if he stays or not

56 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

This is one thing (of many) that i hate about the US media. Sills arrest was all over the news but y6ou will hear very little about it now that he's found NOT GUILTY

Women can be brutal and they are terrific liars and I hope he sues her for defamation/false arrest. These false claims need to be answered with justice for the man. Even so,some(like myself) just choose to move on. In either case,this is huge for him at his age

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

This is one thing (of many) that i hate about the US media. Sills arrest was all over the news but y6ou will hear very little about it now that he's found NOT GUILTY

Yep, no headines there sadly. I'm happy he was exonerated and can get on with his young life

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

I wasnt sure if the team released him.

Glad they had the guts to let the legal process play out.

Did with Carter also(although he wasn't a bird yet) Seems they know character when they see it and are willing to stand by their decisions instead of just cutting bait(the easy way out)

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