Or how you misread my posts also. 

Kelce and JuJu countered by runs in every scoring drive KC had. They didn’t run it the two drives that failed.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No idea how you misread the play by play. Fourth play KC had on O he busted a 24 yard run. Then a 3 yard run. Followed by an 18 yard TD to Kelce.

No idea how one run on the first drive... which was the only drive they scored in the first half...set the tone ?  Maybe 1:45 later they scored again... figure a long halftime show.   

It's pretty farfetched to think that one run set any tone. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

No idea how one run on the first drive... which was the only drive they scored in the first half...set the tone ?  Maybe 1:45 later they scored again... figure a long halftime show.   

It's pretty farfetched to think that one run set any tone. 

They didn’t have it the next two drives. Got the game to halftime. Then AR came out in the second just like he originally scripting things. We couldn’t stop it. Gannon had no adjustments. 

Or is it that you can’t grasp the symbiotic relationship between running plays and TE/Slot passing game? Start with there are 11 guys on the field playing D. 

I believe the problem started from that are run D was vulnerable last season. So fourth play and second rush of the game hitting 24…it mattered. Meant we had to respect the run. Then after you start working out those 11 guys jobs….how do you deal with the run game versus the pass game? Specifically the TE and Slot WR in the pass game.

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

No idea how one run on the first drive... which was the only drive they scored in the first half...set the tone ?  Maybe 1:45 later they scored again... figure a long halftime show.   

It's pretty farfetched to think that one run set any tone. 

You said it mostly right here in your post. Set the tone running the ball first drive where they scored. Didn’t run and didn’t score next two drives. Got to halftime and realized just keep bouncing back and forth from run to passing to Kelce/JuJu. The answer was their drive 1. Went back to that tone setting drive they started the game with…and everything looked easy. Now on our side? Our team struggled rushing D much of the season. No way that 24 yard scamper by some late round RB didn’t resonate on the D of….here we go again. KC is a handful to deal with being one dimensional passing. Them running on us was crippling. Couldn’t just focus T-ing up on pass D. D players had to ‘read.’ That moment of our players watching for the handoff clearly opened up massive lanes for their inside receivers. Mahomes was good. But mostly easy throws. Open guys. It wasn’t a bunch of Mahomes throwing up contested 50/50 balls. Totally different if they were just coming down with the ball ripping from defenders arms. This was AR versus Gannon. More that than Mahomes. Having his qualities was just a luxury mostly. He did run the ball twice very effectively. But there were wide open guys in the endzone. It was embarrassing!

We should have been in Nickel most the whole game that wasn’t short yardage. But our short yardage D didn’t stop Pachenko either.

I’ll go through it again I guess. Second drive: run first. Then pass pass pass to a missed field goal.

Third drive Hargrave busted up Pacheco’s first down run. End up punting. Three and out.

Next drive: pass pass pass then punt

Second half KC gets the ball first: Pacheco  run of 7. Then Pacheco….run of 2. Third and one…Pacheco breaks us for 14. They bring in other RBs to run the whole drive. Pacheco then gets that stat you guys harp on of a one yard…just terrible towards game yardage totals…or play yardage totals…but wait….it scored a TD. Fantastic  ONE yard run!

Next drive: Pacheco 9 and then Pacheco 11. Score another TD.

Next drive Pacheco only gets ONE yard again. Was a play at the goaline however…because of the lack of caring about our stinky P. They throw it in anyway. 

Then FINAL drive: Pacheco runs to get the clock rolling on the drive that kills the clock and wins the game. Then 3rd and 1 at their 47. Pacheco busts ten. Massive play!

Insane how much you two just glued to the guy fumbling once. He had to do absolutely everything for us to remotely even be in the game. Him overcoming the team proving no D. Overcoming no RB contribution. Overcoming shank P gifting a score. Overcome Quez choking. All that isn’t enough. Nooooo. He had to overcome Seumalo brain farting two plays in a row. In an empty backfield if I recall…because the RBs were actually detrimental to put on the field. If a RB was back there? You think he has a shot to recover the fumble..or at least grab Bolton to slow him for help to arrive? Nahhh…gloss over what actually transpired in the whole game. Just point to Hurts being forced to create six yards out of nothing….again…to keep the drive alive.

You guys need to discover ‘context.’ The fumble six didn’t happen in a vacuum. It was two straight terrible mistakes by Seumalo. No RB back there. Pressure of needing to post 40 points to win. Hurts clearly made an error. Play should have never existed in the first place however.

 Context with Pacheco. A one yard run…for a TD is great. Doesn’t give the big picture game stats. Final drive third and one conversion..was huge. KC doesn’t beat us without Pacheco huge contribution. Without him we just key on the pass. Gotta think the D would have performed sooooo much better making them one dimensional. Having both? Got the receivers wide open. Easy completions mostly. Great for the stats of Mahomes completion percentage. He’s great anyway. But we weren’t even contesting these passes.

I can’t imagine their routes being so easily won with separation without Pachenco. TE and Slot receivers almost exclusively at that. 

And Kelce and JuJu setup Pacheco. It went both ways.

No way KC should have been able to run on us like they did. 

Our team was so dominant rushing all year. Number one Oline. What you guys suggest in theory is all you need to run the ball. But we actually had to adjust to taking the RB off the field. Made us a man down. They had zero respect for our RBs. Should have gone with Boston Scott. Hindsight makes this an easy obvious call.

Where was our RB to stop the recovery TD? On the bench is where. But that’s Hurts fault also I guess. He needed to block for the Oline too I guess. No penalty and the play never exists by Seumalo. How does Bolton, at the line, not get accounted for? Not even touched! KC can’t score a D TD without all these factors occurring. But nahhhh…just Hurts fault we lost. Had such a sick game. But trying to overcome unbelievable unfathomable hurdles and he fumbled…once. 

We had no right to even be remotely close in that game. Hurts went Superhuman! Could have put up 40…if he had more than a few teammates. Embarrassing for anybody to suggest Hurts fumble cost us the game. He was the only reason it was a game.

12 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Saints release Coutee  4.3 speed,experienced. Age 26,966 yards when he was in Houston. Too many WR's in NO,but he would upgrade our BU in that room

We have arguably the strongest WR room we’ve ever had. Ngata has been balling. I’m not sure Ward even makes the team. He’s solid. Good in a phone booth. You guys at least understand this reference.

Devon Allen has the speed. Little bit he’s shown…hands work also. Just needs to focus on football. Returner and backup WR.