18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WHY? because we can't coach WR's lol

How would you know? Just added a brand new well respected College WR coach. Was successful every stop in college.

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Isn’t that a factor? They got extra picks...but lost Diggs. So it was trade Diggs for Jefferson. I’d rather have Diggs.

WHo knows if it's a factor yet

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How would you know? Just added a brand new well respected College WR coach. Was successful every stop in college.

Same as you know JJ wont be a factor lol

   Jefferson is all upset he was the fifth WR taken at 22. Says he has a chip on his shoulder. He believes he’s the best WR in this class. He says that every team that took a WR not him is going to pay.

  Poor first round WR. I feel so bad for him. He should be focused on becoming a good NFL WR. Maybe actually focused on his own team. Heck maybe give a little grief to the division rivals. But no! He’s focused on everything else. Gotta get the Eagles, Raiders, Cowboys and (I forget who took Jeudy). This guy Jefferson has issues. He better get matched up against LBs or he’s going to have a hard time cashing these checks he’s writing. Good thing he gets to play the Raiders twice a year to show them who should win the division....ohhh wait.

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How would you know? Just added a brand new well respected College WR coach. Was successful every stop in college.

SO the guys we had before were unrespected noones? I'LL believe it when I see it.Fact is we cant bring WR's along.I hope that changes,because if we DID it,we wouldnt need Goodwin,Alshon or anyone else

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

   Jefferson is all upset he was the fifth WR taken at 22. Says he has a chip on his shoulder. He believes he’s the best WR in this class. He says that every team that took a WR not him is going to pay.

  Poor first round WR. I feel so bad for him. He should be focused on becoming a good NFL WR. Maybe actually focused on his own team. Heck maybe give a little grief to the division rivals. But no! He’s focused on everything else. Gotta get the Eagles, Raiders, Cowboys and (I forget who took Jeudy). This guy Jefferson has issues. He better get matched up against LBs or he’s going to have a hard time cashing these checks he’s writing. Good thing he gets to play the Raiders twice a year to show them who should win the division....ohhh wait.

Bet still stands JJ gets more yards and scores than Reagor.Bet what you want

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

cashing these checks

You mean the rook pay all rooks get in round 1?

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

   Jefferson is all upset he was the fifth WR taken at 22. Says he has a chip on his shoulder. He believes he’s the best WR in this class. He says that every team that took a WR not him is going to pay.

  Poor first round WR. I feel so bad for him. He should be focused on becoming a good NFL WR. Maybe actually focused on his own team. Heck maybe give a little grief to the division rivals. But no! He’s focused on everything else. Gotta get the Eagles, Raiders, Cowboys and (I forget who took Jeudy). This guy Jefferson has issues. He better get matched up against LBs or he’s going to have a hard time cashing these checks he’s writing. Good thing he gets to play the Raiders twice a year to show them who should win the division....ohhh wait.

Lmao every player thinks they are the best.is this something new to you?

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WHo knows if it's a factor yet

Same as you know JJ wont be a factor lol

You can’t blame whether we can develop a WR or not on a brand new coach because last year’s coach that was fired  couldn’t. 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lmao every player thinks they are the best.is this something new to you?

I don’t really have a problem with him thinking he’s the best. It’s that he’s so upset about only being the 22nd pick in the draft. That  he’s bent about four WR going before him. That’s he’s on a personal revenge mission. It’s a team sport. Be a team player. Do what’s best for your team. Being he11 bent on making the Raiders pay seems childish at best. Try to prove the Vikes right. His focus is making the Cowboys pay, really? Just makes me feel even better about not picking him.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can’t blame whether we can develop a WR or not on a brand new coach because last year’s coach that was fired  couldn’t. 

It's our HISTORY.I'm not talking about 1 year lol.We re good at TE's but not WR's and never have been

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t really have a problem with him thinking he’s the best. It’s that he’s so upset about only being the 22nd pick in the draft. That  he’s bent about four WR going before him. That’s he’s on a personal revenge mission. It’s a team sport. Be a team player. Do what’s best for your team. Being he11 bent on making the Raiders pay seems childish at best. Try to prove the Vikes right. His focus is making the Cowboys pay, really? Just makes me feel even better about not picking him.

IDK I like guys with chips on their shoulders.Those are the guys I want here

Frustration BS talk- you've never heard it before??

If he lights the NFL world on fire...maybe he has a point. Then I’ll give him credit for his chip. First WR didn’t go until 12. So going ten picks later is sooo minor. I don’t think he was worth the 22 selection. Be glad to watch him eat all these words. Can’t wait until he sees the NFL LB speed and that he can’t run away from even them. Going to really enjoy it now.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's our HISTORY.I'm not talking about 1 year lol.We re good at TE's but not WR's and never have been

IDK I like guys with chips on their shoulders.Those are the guys I want here

Who is responsible for developing WR? The WR coach. What does anything else have to do with what Moorehead can do? It’s all irrelevant.

  Focused on trying to make the Raiders pay is not the guys we need. We need guys ready to work improve and learn. Chip on your shoulder because you slid to the sixth round or undrafted...sure...I’ll give guys that. A personal vendetta against four non divisional teams over going ten picks later is messed up priorities. And it also shows that he doesn’t even understand how things work. Is he the fastest outside WR option? No...he can’t remotely make that argument. Raiders needed that.

Big talk from a guy that had to get moved to the slot. Big talk from a guy that was the second best WR on his own college team. How did he go from having to move to the slot and not being the top option on his college team....to best WR?

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Big talk from a guy that had to get moved to the slot. Big talk from a guy that was the second best WR on his own college team. How did he go from having to move to the slot and not being the top option on his college team....to best WR?

Still waiting on the bet.I also bet he gets more yards and TD's than Ward who he would have replaced

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Big talk from a guy that had to get moved to the slot. Big talk from a guy that was the second best WR on his own college team. How did he go from having to move to the slot and not being the top option on his college team....to best WR?

Reagor only WR on his team worth anything

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not sure how much blame or credit to give him here. Wasn’t his call. The Jets situation is tough also. Seemed like the coach thought he was running everything. So was this his draft or the coach?

He was brought in to help with the draft and easily see a shift in how we drafted when he got here.... He definitely had a massive influence on who we drafted.... Sure can’t really say who is at fault but can’t praise the guy for the good and fault Howie solely on the bad which is my issue.... Seen plenty praise Joe for the good draft picks yet blame Howie for the bad ones and it just can’t be that way 

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If he lights the NFL world on fire...maybe he has a point. Then I’ll give him credit for his chip. First WR didn’t go until 12. So going ten picks later is sooo minor. I don’t think he was worth the 22 selection. Be glad to watch him eat all these words. Can’t wait until he sees the NFL LB speed and that he can’t run away from even them. Going to really enjoy it now.

Like you Ham-everyone wants to be first(see your FIRST POST)

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Big talk from a guy that had to get moved to the slot. Big talk from a guy that was the second best WR on his own college team. How did he go from having to move to the slot and not being the top option on his college team....to best WR?

Yep 1500 yards and 18 TD's WITH 2 top notch outside guys Burrow COULD throw to.Why did he throw to JJ? Maybe he was open? he's gotta suck. Reagor only WR on his team worth anything

SO the bet stands.Over the next 2 seasons(20,21) JJ will get more yards and TD's than either Reagor or Ward.Bet what you want

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

GL convincing Gooddell

I know that'll never happen, but that's the way I would like it....

I feel as though Howie gets such a false stigma about it.... 

He can’t draft look unbiased at his drafting over the last decade vs the rest of the league his hit/miss ratio is right on par with them

Well we can’t draft CB/WR(A of you really look at it rarely have we invested highly at those positions which is a factor) B. Think all teams have strengths and weaknesses in drafting as well we are strong at drafting on the lines look at a team like Seattle as an example they are great at finding DBs have you seen them try and draft lineman though terrible. 
 

 

Howie needs to keep evolving and improving but by no means this terrible GM some seem to make him out to be 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/29/greg-ward-eagles-breakout-player-2020-season/    So Reagor better be ready week 1 on the outside

How many of said that Ward deserved a chance? Most of this bored i'll bet.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO the bet stands.Over the next 2 seasons(20,21) JJ will get more yards and TD's than either Reagor or Ward.Bet what you want

He may get more TDs because that what he does.

He won't have the most yards.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO the bet stands.Over the next 2 seasons(20,21) JJ will get more yards and TD's than either Reagor or Ward.Bet what you want

Jmatt was like 2nd or 3rd behind only like Odell and think Landry for the first 3-4 years of his career in stats where is he now....

no clue who will be better between Reagor and Jefferson(hope it’s Reagor) 

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Still waiting on the bet.I also bet he gets more yards and TD's than Ward who he would have replaced

Reagor only WR on his team worth anything

So you say a first round pick will produce more than a guy we had on the PS for three years. You sure you won’t to go all the way out on that limb?