41 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

New coaches who knows with them what they can do or can’t... Honestly right now I view it as mostly Schwartz scheme that is making players look way worse then they are. Just a list of guys that left and are having success.

Darby,Jones,Douglas etc. 

SO that's kinda why I am ruling out a DB for us in round 1 lol. Whatever the problem is we DO have a problem

Watching the OSU game. It's so lopsided(similar to Eagles games) it's hard to scout anyone from OSU going up against anyone of quality. Bama/ LSU(8PM EST)will be watched by every NFL team lol

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO that's kinda why I am ruling out a DB for us in round 1 lol. Whatever the problem is we DO have a problem

But again if Schwartz gets axed and we get a new coach does that change things???? I csmt rule at any position especially in the top 10 get me the best damn player whoever we feel is the game changer. WR,DL,OL,LB,DB don’t care....

With us basically needing everything just get our highest graded player however we grade players lol 

Hopefully Howie is not in charge of the draft but not my call. 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But again if Schwartz gets axed and we get a new coach does that change things???? I csmt rule at any position especially in the top 10 get me the best damn player whoever we feel is the game changer. WR,DL,OL,LB,DB don’t care....

With us basically needing everything just get our highest graded player however we grade players lol 

You're asking a question noone can answer lol. Yeah get the highest graded DB, then ruin him so we can let him go elsewhere and succeed(we heave a track record of this). I would rather opt for a player at a position we can develop so as not to have a wasted pick

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

You're asking a question noone can answer lol. Yeah get the highest graded DB, then ruin him so we can let him go elsewhere and succeed(we heave a track record of this). I would rather opt for a player at a position we can develop so as not to have a wasted pick

Our track record is ruining Jones and Douglas under Schwartz.... We also developed Lito and Brown under Jim Johnson.... Point new coaches no clue what happens.

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Our track record is ruining Jones and Douglas under Schwartz.... We also developed Lito and Brown under Jim Johnson.... Point new coaches no clue what happens.

Then Lurie has failed to see this trend. Fact remains until that changes,what I said is true. Get the coaches changed,see what they can do with the guys we already HAVE before spending a round 1 on a position that may be a waste of time. PROVE to me you can develop them FIRST. As of right now,any changes we have made already are not producing results are they?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then Lurie has failed to see this trend. Fact remains until that changes,what I said is true. get the coaches changed,see what they can do with the guys we already HAVE before spending a round 1 on a position that may be a waste of time. PROVE to be you can develop them FIRST

Or just draft the best player and let the new coaches work with top talent at the position.... Can’t be scared to draft a top player for other coaches failures 

Like saying we can’t draft a position if we have an entirely new GM.... How do we know how he can draft???? Howie short comings mean nothing on him. 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Or just draft the best player and let the new coaches work with top talent at the position.... Can’t be scared to draft a top player for other coaches failures 

Like saying we can’t draft a position if we have an entirely new GM.... How do we know how he can draft???? Howie short comings mean nothing on him. 

I don't have to be scared to make good business decisions lol. Unless there is absolutely a standout over another that cannot be denied,I will go with the guy I know I can make a player out of, not " let's throw this on a wall to see if it sticks"

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't have to be scared to make good business decisions lol. Unless there is absolutely a standoutpover another that cannot be denied,I will go with the guy I know I can make a player out of, not " let's throw this on a wall to see if it sticks"

How do you know you can make him a good player if there ARE NEW COACHES!!!!

Only position you maybe can make a case we have developed decently would be OL maybe RBs.
LB if we like what we have seen from Singleton/Edwards.

Who do we have at DE???? Barnett meh and we spent a 1st on him, Sweat look decent. 

Cox was a completely different staff as was Graham 

Im seeing a team that isn’t developing anyone well 

So unless we are going OL,RB or TE we are gambling on positions we aren’t developing well at all 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Im seeing a team that isn’t developing anyone well 

We are good at TE development(maybe these guys need promoted?). So find those DITR TE's ,develop and trade them(remember Celek, Burton now Ertz?) every team has weaknesses. Draft  to your strengths and trade for what you are weak at. That is the GM's job to know and draft accordingly,which Howie isn't that good at, but until that changes,we are stuck with him

So all I am saying is,if there is a DL,CB LB up when we pick, I know we suck at CB,so I would not waste a pick there until that staff has shown me they can get the guys I have playing better, and so far I don't see that. I'm not buying a Ferrari when my shop only has a lawn mower repair guy. Maybe I RISK a 2 pick(which we already did to no avail)

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So all I am saying is,if there is a DL,CB LB up when we pick, I know we suck at CB,so I would not waste a pick there until that staff has shown me they can get the guys I have playing better, and so far I don't see that. I'm not buying a Ferrari when my shop only has a lawn mower repair guy

We suck at DL as well and don’t draft LBs but that’s again this STAFF!!!! New staff different results 

So,if I am Howie and I understand they KEY to Schwartz's defense is a dominant pass rush, that''s where I go. I would be fine with a LB since that staff seems to now have a clue what they are doing/ looking for. The DB staff is still clueless

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We suck at DL as well and don’t draft LBs but that’s again this STAFF!!!! New staff different results 

OUR DL isn't terrible. They are not as dominating as we need them to be,thus the secondary looks even worse

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So,if I am Howie and I understand they KEY to Schwartz's defense is a dominant pass rush, that''s where I go. I would be fine with a LB since that staff seems to now have a clue what they are doing/ looking for. The DB staff is still clueless

OUR DL isn't terrible. They are not as dominating as we need them to be,thus the secondary looks even worse

Who have we developed on that DL???? 

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We suck at DL as well and don’t draft LBs but that’s again this STAFF!!!! New staff different results 

Backwards. Show me results(with what you have) then I will get you the stars you want

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Backwards. Show me results(with what you have) then I will get you the stars you want

Lmao your backwards getting results when you already have studs in place doesn’t make you good at developing means you inherited good players....

Eagles DL was Cox(stud already) Graham(above avg. already) Curry(already solid starter) Long(FA), Timmy Jerigan(good player already) we have literally not brought any player along why our DL is going down hill. We can’t bring along young talent

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Who have we developed on that DL???? 

I never said we were GREAT there, but we are better there than the at DB no??? You have your op, I have mine. If you have 3 bad staffs you still go with the best of the worst lol

I more impressed with what we accomplished with meh secondary players over what our coaches have done on the DL with inherited talent 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao your backwards getting results when you already have studs in place doesn’t make you good at developing means you inherited good players....

Eagles DL was Cox(stud already) Graham(above avg. already) Curry(already solid starter) Long(FA), Timmy Jerigan(good player already) we have literally not brought any player along why our DL is going down hill. We can’t bring along young talent

Don't blame, that's on Howie lol 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I more impressed with what we accomplished with meh secondary players over what our coaches have done on the DL with inherited talent 

Even Slay got spanked,really impressive(not)

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I never said we were GREAT there, but we are better there than the at DB no??? You have your op, I have mine. If you have 3 bad staffs you still go with the best of the worst lol

NO!!!!!!! Who have we developed that’s worth a damn under Schwartz???? I think we let Barnett walk that’s how meh he has been don’t think we should give him his 5th year option 

Draft/ruin/release/repeat

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Don't blame, that's on Howie lol 

Even Slay got spanked,really impressive(not)

And we are like 23rd vs the run this year really impressive DL lol 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

NO!!!!!!! Who have we developed that’s worth a damn under Schwartz???? I think we let Barnett walk that’s how meh he has been don’t think we should give him his 5th year option 

Once again you are blaming me for FO shortcomings. I am simply telling you what we are good at (which isn't much) . SO if you want staff changes,that's fine,but I am still facing the reality of we cannot develop DB's. Find me a staff that shows results(or improvement) before I invest a first rounder.Not real hard to figure out. getting Slay was basically BUYING an "inherited" ,player. Thats what FA is!!! If you have to go to FA,that PROVES you are not developing guys yes? And we released Jones and Douglas who are playing well. SO 2 releases and a FA snag pretty much tell me that staff is no better

34 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Once again you are blaming me for FO shortcomings. I am simply telling you what we are good at (which isn't much) . SO if you want staff changes,that's fine,but I am still facing the reality of we cannot develop DB's. Find me a staff that shows results(or improvement) before I invest a first rounder.Not real hard to figure out. getting Slay was basically BUYING an "inherited" ,player. Thats what FA is!!! If you have to go to FA,that PROVES you are not developing guys yes? And we released Jones and Douglas who are playing well. SO 2 releases and a FA snag pretty much tell me that staff is no better

So that goes for DL then as well paying for Curry to return, trading for Jerigan, paying Malik, paying Hargrove, trading for Ridgeway... Again you keep avoiding the question who have we developed on the DL???? 

I’m not blaming for anything I’m just stating the facts we can’t develop any position really. 
 

So if we are only draft what we are good at that’s a short list would be TE, RB and maybe OL 

Quez Watkins isn't traveling with the team, but he was likely to be inactive anyway.

WR snaps will be interesting. I don't see why Jeffery is active or even on the roster anymore. Just rip off the band aid. Assuming we are in 12 personnel most of the time with Ertz back, I am hoping we put Fulgham and Reagor on the field for most of the snaps. But I get the feeling that they are upset with Fulgham, so who knows what they will do.

I did see Ward getting wide open several times against the Seahawks, so I wouldn't be upset to see him out there.

Maybe replacing Pryor with Driscoll will give Wentz the extra beat he needs to find open guys.