DeVonta Smith is a stud

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I just think we need a QB coach. It feels like Press Taylor has become the OC.

I’ve said this since like week 1 lol

It looks like the only real big decision tomorrow on the inactives is whether the final one will be Clement, JJAW or Jeffery, assuming the others are Watkins, Ford, Suds, Huntley and Toth. Clement plays special teams, so I doubt it is him. So my guess is it will be JJAW, which seems like we are giving up on him way too soon, especially in light of the fact that Wentz has made all our receivers look bad this year.

I almost want them to release him to see how he does on another team, so we can figure out if the receivers are the problem or not. 

57 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

It looks like the only real big decision tomorrow on the inactives is whether the final one will be Clement, JJAW or Jeffery, assuming the others are Watkins, Ford, Suds, Huntley and Toth. Clement plays special teams, so I doubt it is him. So my guess is it will be JJAW, which seems like we are giving up on him way too soon, especially in light of the fact that Wentz has made all our receivers look bad this year.

I almost want them to release him to see how he does on another team, so we can figure out if the receivers are the problem or not. 

Release who JJaw??? I think his game is A. You have to help scheme him open some B. Physical style so you have to throw some contested balls C. Lot of timing and precision

Wentz isn’t the best anticipation thrower and well Dougs calls 

I just want to see a heavy dose of runs and play actions tomorrow help our QB out damn not to much to ask... Pack don’t have a great run D use the RBs 

10 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Think Howie is great with numbers I don’t think he is the only guy that is great with numbers and contracts though.... So if your asking me no I don’t split the job items either Howie or fire him.

Howie has been given his chances don’t need the headache and the power struggle that will happen trying to split the roles to many pieces in my eyes. So if I go out to hire a new GM Howie is fired 

Contract numbers are not rocket science. I’m a commercial banker by trade and what Howie does is not complicated math. Recognize within the cap structure how to avoid having dead money; structure contracts that you can live with and get out of quickly; tier contact maturities within the roster; don't overpay for older veterans; dont listen to the talking heads on TV. Have a plan and adjust as needed.

6 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I just want to see a heavy dose of runs and play actions tomorrow help our QB out damn not to much to ask... Pack don’t have a great run D use the RBs 

Definitely interested to see what Jordan Howard is working with

5 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

Contract numbers are not rocket science. I’m a commercial banker by trade and what Howie does is not complicated math. Recognize within the cap structure how to avoid having dead money; structure contracts that you can live with and get out of quickly; tier contact maturities within the roster; don't overpay for older veterans; dont listen to the talking heads on TV. Have a plan and adjust as needed.

How many of those boxes does Howie check?  

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Definitely interested to see what Jordan Howard is working with

I love Howard and was mad they let him walk, BUT lets be honest. 1- We have a horrible oline for him to run behind. 2- Every week we say this is the game Doug establishes the run game more and every week Doug runs less and less. Im expecting them to get the run game going and run will in the 1st Q then only to abandon it like they always do. 

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Press took over the playcalling for the whole second half of the Hawks game.

And this is exactly why Doug needs to be fired. If Press was really calling plays in the 2nd half it proves Doug is not even teaching his coaching staff anything. the game plan/play calling looked no different. Coaching clean out will be here soon enough. 

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

And this is exactly why Doug needs to be fired. If Press was really calling plays in the 2nd half it proves Doug is not even teaching his coaching staff anything. the game plan/play calling looked no different. Coaching clean out will be here soon enough. 

I mean if Doug is teaching press why would the play calling look different???? Press would be learning from Doug. Press is also part of the game plans each week...

I mean best case scenario would be Press just has a better feel for the game but the plays aren’t going to be different he isn’t implementing a new offense 

I look at our offense and I watch these games and there are so many plays missed.

Seattle remember seeing Geodart on a sure TD if Wentz throws an accurate deep ball. Instead it’s under throw we get a PI call great but could have been 6. Stuff like that has been happening all year missed throws, missed reads, dropped passes.

As a coach if you dial up a play and the TD is there to be made but the guys don’t execute not sure how you fault the play calling.

I not saying our play calling is fantastic or anything far from it but definitely not terrible either. Biggest complaint is still that we refuse to run which seems to be our biggest strength at the moment 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean if Doug is teaching press why would the play calling look different???? Press would be learning from Doug. Press is also part of the game plans each week...

I mean best case scenario would be Press just has a better feel for the game but the plays aren’t going to be different he isn’t implementing a new offense 

Which is the main problem. Under 4 of 5 years with Doug running the offense we have had one of the worst first half offenses in the league. Overall offense not much better. they only year we had a top offense was when Frank was giving game planning/scripting which is basically play calling. It was a complete over haul of the offense. Thats exactly what we need, not someone taking over play calling off the same game plan. 

14 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Overall offense not much better. they only year we had a top offense was when Frank was giving game planning/scripting which is basically play calling.

I mean we have had a top 15 O or better 3 of the 5 years Doug was here.

Game planning and scripting isn’t anything like play calling lmao you script first 10-15 plays of a game the rest is the play caller.... Game planning is the ability to break down a team to find the best ways to attack them.

Doug the HC is fine do we need some fresh blood at OC calling plays sure that could be press if he gets to build his O in the off-season, I like Anthony Lynn if he gets fired by the Chargers Herbert is thriving and Wentz game is extremely similar. 

Though again won’t matter who the play caller is or what plays we run if the guys can’t execute.

Even watching Doug I’ve seen numerous plays that were well designed that we just missed on execution.

If I’m press Taylor and I get handed the reins to the offense I’m trying to get in touch with everyone I can to find elements to implement in my O in the off-season.

Hit up bro in Cincy pick his brain, take things from Doug, Try and talk with Mcvay ,Reich, Kyle Shannan we have coaches with ties to all them. No clue how much they would share or aid but damn it if I wouldn’t try. 
 

Not much Press can do about the offense this late in the season but next year could really do something different if still here 

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean we have had a top 15 O or better 3 of the 5 years Doug was here.

Game planning and scripting isn’t anything like play calling lmao you script first 10-15 plays of a game the rest is the play caller.... Game planning is the ability to break down a team to find the best ways to attack them.

Doug the HC is fine do we need some fresh blood at OC calling plays sure that could be press if he gets to build his O in the off-season, I like Anthony Lynn if he gets fired by the Chargers Herbert is thriving and Wentz game is extremely similar. 

Actually it is. When you game plan and script, you are calling the first amount of plays you script in the exact order you script them. So yes that is play calling. The OC is calling the plays in that order. Now every team that does this does it different. they might have 5 plays, or even 15-20 plays scripted. Can they go off the script and free lance? Yes. but it is not preferred. The reason why is that script will  have or suppose to have a variety of different schemed plays to see how the defense will react to those plays to figure out there game plan. this will allow you to figure out your direction of the game calling going forward based off the scripted plays and what is on the call sheet. Also the game planner is setting the call sheet. So that person is deciding which plays are on the call sheet. So that person calling the plays is limited to the mind of the game planner. Doug has a very limited mind as we all know when it comes to his play designs. 

15 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Actually it is. When you game plan and script, you are calling the first amount of plays you script in the exact order you script them. So yes that is play calling

Lmao that literally what I said if you read he post but it isn’t being the play caller you script 15 plays maybe... What about idk the other 45 plus plays called in the game lmao 

So, in a quandry. Should I root FOR them or against them for a better draft pick. I haven't been in this spot before lol(UGH)

Oh just news flash you know who else was part of scripting and game plans literally everyone on the O... Stout had a hand in it as the ground games coach which he has held that title since he got here, Duce, Delfilippo, DOUG!!!!!.

You know what else helped that offense guys EXECUTING PLAYS!!!! Magic how great an offense looks when you know your hitting a deep ball and making splash plays huge difference when those plays are there and the QB can’t step into the throw, or can’t hit the target, the target drops the ball etc. 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao that literally what I said if you read he post but it isn’t being the play caller you script 15 plays maybe... What about idk the other 45 plus plays called in the game lmao 

Teams will usually repeat the plays they have success with and go off the remaining plays in the similar scheme set that had success off the defense during the scripted plays. But again, those other plays are set by the game planner who is creating the call sheet. Frank made that sheet in 2017, Doug made it 2016,2018,2019,2020. BIG difference in success in 1st half and overall rankings. If you listen to Doug and just watch the games you can see and hear he does not believe in scripting. He plays it by ear and we have seen that fail. Doug calls the same route combo most of the game. Doug in the end can not be in charge of the game planning. That is not his strong suite. in the end, his only strong point is motivating his players to keep going and giving their all. 

IDK, maybe grab a few fans in the stands,buy them lunch and give them the headsets to call the plays in. I mean they can't do any worse

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Oh just news flash you know who else was part of scripting and game plans literally everyone on the O... Stout had a hand in it as the ground games coach which he has held that title since he got here, Duce, Delfilippo, DOUG!!!!!.

You know what else helped that offense guys EXECUTING PLAYS!!!! Magic how great an offense looks when you know your hitting a deep ball and making splash plays huge difference when those plays are there and the QB can’t step into the throw, or can’t hit the target, the target drops the ball etc. 

How wrong you are, lol. Ive been in those rooms, yes in the NFL setting. They really dont have much if any say. They give feedback and advice when asked but depending on the coach it normally doesnt change much. As we can see by Doug, it changes nothing. 

JMO. Win or lose, if I am Lurie, I need to see if Wentz is my future or my past and this is a great game to find that out. If we lose going out fighting and being solid and just get beat by a better team,I have NP with that. But I need to see Wentz ON HIS GAME for a change

9 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

How wrong you are, lol. Ive been in those rooms, yes in the NFL setting. They really dont have much if any say. They give feedback and advice when asked but depending on the coach it normally doesnt change much. As we can see by Doug, it changes nothing. 

Lmao how wrong you are but it’s fine