30 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I seem to recall reports Big V was struggling up there.  

Yeah, I wouldn’t have outbid them and committed to V for five years. Both bad ideas.

14 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Reagor ran a slow 40 time at the combine, which is why he dropped. We saw his speed on Sunday. I think he has had a bad rookie season since the entire offense has struggled. With Hurts, we should get a chance to see what he can do on deep balls.

I also expect Fulgham to get a lot of chances. Hurts seems more willing to throw it up and let his receivers make plays.

 

 

Don’t know if he dropped. I had the idea of trading back a few spots and taking him. But his injury and our offensive struggles have clearly hindered his production. Guy clearly has playmaking ability. He was never considered the more polished of the first round choices. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Don’t know if he dropped. I had the idea of trading back a few spots and taking him. But his injury and our offensive struggles have clearly hindered his production. Guy clearly has playmaking ability. He was never considered the more polished of the first round choices. 

If he had run a faster time he would have shot up draft boards. For all the talk of polished route running, every team wants a Metcalf or Hill who can blow the doors off a defense.

If you watch our recent games, teams just had no respect for our deep passing game, which is one of the reasons why the offense has struggled. I think that changes this week. The Saints are going to load up the box and dare Hurts to beat them with his arm. He has to show them he can. 

Just now, jsb235 said:

If he had run a faster time he would have shot up draft boards. For all the talk of polished route running, every team wants a Metcalf or Hill who can blow the doors off a defense.

If you watch our recent games, teams just had no respect for our deep passing game, which is one of the reasons why the offense has struggled. I think that changes this week. The Saints are going to load up the box and dare Hurts to beat them with his arm. He has to show them he can. 

We took him at 21ish...Lamb went a few spots earlier. Don’t think Reagor was climbing any higher than that. What really hurt him was terrible QB play his last college season. 

Metcalf fell...so not the best example

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

I seem to recall reports Big V was struggling up there.  

IDK,hard to believe he is struggling more than some linemen we have

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We have plenty of decent and potential WR. Pretty much just need the elite stud and the position group is done. So if we don’t get a guy in the first I probably don’t care much about adding more WR depth.

SO studs only come in round 1????

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I would have no problem taking Dobbins instead of Hurts. I’m sure Wentz would have looked better.

Smith looks great. He’s in the running

yeah just saying we could have already HAD our triple RB backfield,but no we wait until week 12 lol(FAIL)

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK,hard to believe he is struggling more than some linemen we have

Big V couldn't stop a bull rush. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Most considered it Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb as the super studs. Don’t remember Reagor being in that discussion. Pretty much the talk was can we trade up for Lamb falling...which he did but the Cowboys got hold of him.

JJ is a stud,but we didnt take him when we had the chance eh? He's kicking all 3 of their arses

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Big V couldn't stop a bull rush. 

So that can't be fixed? 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d say both sides of that argument are poor. V wasn’t worth all that. The WRs weren’t worth that. Two wrongs still doesn’t equal a right.

Maybe,but we could have kept him as at least a soild BU???

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For Goff. Not their whole very talented team. We had injuries occur brutally while not being that talented....then leading to/ or occurring with the QB slump. AND like you said the fixed their problem and Goff embarrassed the Oats last night. So clearly it can be done. I think Wentz is better than Goff personally. Goff been gifted much better weapons though.

Well,would you not settle right now for a 9-7 DOWN year? Thats the point I was making,even in a BAD year,they had a winning record

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

JJ is a stud,but we didnt take him when we had the chance eh? He's kicking all 3 of their arses

Doesn’t change consensus draft analysis. Tom Brady was a fifth or sixth rounder....kicking everybody’s a22es still

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you think the GM and owners interference has helped Pedey? I don’t think so. Let the guy run things his way. I think Pedey is very good at delegating responsibilities. Doesn’t have this massive ego that almost all other coaches you’d have to deal with. But them forcing him to fire his OC definitely turned out negative this season. Not sure how else to see it.

No he's awful at delegating or why else would be consistently give up calling the plays? If he delegated, that guy would be calling the entire game and I have zero clue how much "interference" there is. neither of us is on the inside

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Doesn’t change consensus draft analysis. Tom Brady was a fifth or sixth rounder....kicking everybody’s a22es still

SO then why does a STUD wr need to be in round 1?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So that can't be fixed? 

Theoretically. But Big V is really tall and doesn't have the leg strength. Unlike Mailata who has tree trunks for legs.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Duce is already assistant Head Coach, RB coach and in charge of the Running Game Coordinator. He’s in line to get a Head Coaching gig. They just came up with rules saying if you groom a black Head Coach for someone you get draft picks. Seems like us and KC are in perfect position to potentially cash in on that. They were talking like two third round picks. Yes please

LOL "asst" HC, just a tacked on title. Let him be the OC .ONE title, not 5 of this and that

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Theoretically. But Big V is really tall and doesn't have the leg strength. Unlike Mailata who has tree trunks for legs.

He could have been a LOG? Apparently someone liked him so we did not even keep him as BU

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wow just what we need ...someone that can beat out a career third stringer. Don’t hurt yourself reaching for the stars LOL

For 6th why not? Like you said Brady was a 6th pick,so BOOM your arguement is gone and BTW thats a 4 year on a rook contract with zero need to pay Suds right?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL "asst" HC, just a tacked on title. Let him be the OC .ONE title, not 5 of this and that

He could have been a LOG? Apparently someone liked him so we did not even keep him as BU

Detroit overpaid him. (Big V)

It's one of the few times Howie didn't pull out his check book and screw the team even more

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

yeah just saying we could have already HAD our triple RB backfield,but no we wait until week 12 lol(FAIL)

How far you want to go back? Should have put it together in 2018. I’m just trying to look at the positive potentially going forward. If we have our backfield set moving forward....I’d be happy is all. One less thing.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO then why does a STUD wr need to be in round 1?

I think i took it to a whole other level of EARLY round one even

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Detroit overpaid him. (Big V)

It's one of the few times Howie didn't pull out his check book and screw the team even more

Yeah maybe, but having a solid LOG wouldn't have cost what Detroit paid him. We never made an offer. SO maybe they overpaid,fact remains we had some talent here at least in a BU role and we let him walk

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I think i took it to a whole other level of EARLY round one even

You know it's a crapshhot. You can find a Stud WR in 2. Ag was not worth a 1 pick,

Reagor we don;t know yet

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How far you want to go back? Should have put it together in 2018. I’m just trying to look at the positive potentially going forward. If we have our backfield set moving forward....I’d be happy is all. One less thing.

That was the point I have been harping on, LACK of planning. We got Sanders, then QUIT!!!! We should have had that other RB already(or not let Howard leave) We had to call up a freakin PS player in Scott. LUCKILY he delivered. I don't want to rely on LUCK

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think i took it to a whole other level of EARLY round one even

SO Ruggs is killing JJ? Nope Jeudy? Nope. Lamb? Nope One could argue Aiyuk and Mims are on par with those(not round 1 picks) So whatever. I think we have more pressing issues on offense

33 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

 

SO studs only come in round 1????

No but likely better odds of hitting on a stud in top 10.  But man when you swing and miss that early (Kevin White, Justin Blackmon, Tavon Austin, ... ) ... ouch. 

One interesting note from Doug's press conference was that Hurts hasn't worked at all with Jeffery, and has a lot more time with JJAW, Hightower and Watkins since they were working with the second team. So we may (hopefully) see Jeffery inactive Sunday and more snaps for the young guys.