10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RPO option is when you have a running game established , which was only existent in the Saints game. So it's difficult to option off something you don't have. I think the THREAT of Hurts running was enough to get that done initially, then Sanders took over as he should have all season

Foles was also a really good RPO QB but his effect was felt more passing from it. Was really good at reading the D and making the quick throw out of it when needed. Hurts as you stated adds the boost with the threat of his legs have to account for him. 
 

Wentz to me just doesn’t seem to fit with it seems to be better dropping back PA more traditional stuff. 

47 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Still feel like Wentz is the more talented player just doesn’t fit with Doug as many have said they don’t gel. So moving forward Hurts might be the best option for this team If Doug is the coach.

Or more importantly the play caller 

Wentz threw for over 4,000 yards last year. 27 TDs with only 7 picks. Pretty much without having a WR. What would those numbers have been with DeAndre Hopkins? 

Seems like the Cards don’t like the Mush Rush. Or it’s more about containing the short Murray in the pocket. Gotta be the gameplan this week.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wentz threw for over 4,000 yards last year. 27 TDs with only 7 picks. Pretty much without having a WR. What would those numbers have been with DeAndre Hopkins? 

Again think Wentz is Uber talented but think he makes plays but I don’t think Doug maximize him or puts him in the best positions for success with his plays and scheme is all 

Even last year most of the season our offense looked stale and stagnant. Most of the wow plays came From broken plays that Wentz extended and made something happen 

JSB, why would you think we wouldn’t struggle with their blitzes? Against Seattle the Cards went with several Zero blitz looks. 6 LBs all standing up at the line of scrimmage. We aren’t ready for that. Can’t handle that. They can Zero Blitz, Single man high and even pulled a cover Three out of it. Basically meaning they are versatile and disguise looks well. Much of the time not presnap showing what they are doing.  Reddick had a huge game. Campbell is back for them. They have the ultraDweapon in Simmons. Hicks we know all about.

The Cards are good against Seattle. I’d expect they go to that ‘Russell Wilson experience well’ to defend Hurts. They are much more prepared for it than New Orleans was.

18 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Even last year most of the season our offense looked stale and stagnant. Most of the wow plays came From broken plays that Wentz extended and made something happen 

Wasn’t most of that due to lack of weapons? Didn’t you notice a boost when Alshon was brought in? Or the small flash of DJax for one game? Just really needed some speed and weapon/s. 

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

JSB, why would you think we wouldn’t struggle with their blitzes? Against Seattle the Cards went with several Zero blitz looks. 6 LBs all standing up at the line of scrimmage. We aren’t ready for that. Can’t handle that. They can Zero Blitz, Single man high and even pulled a cover Three out of it. Basically meaning they are versatile and disguise looks well. Much of the time not presnap showing what they are doing.  Reddick had a huge game. Campbell is back for them. They have the ultraDweapon in Simmons. Hicks we know all about.

Seattle put up over 30 points in the first game against them and 28 in the second game, running for 164 yards. So it's not like they stopped their offense. As far as the zero blitz, we saw that look against the Saints and we ran a play that, had we connected, Reagor would still be running. So we obviously have to execute, but the plays are there to be made. Goedert also gives us essentially a third OT, so if they pressure us, we can just leave him in to block. Our RBs do have to be better at blitz pickup, though.

The bottom line is that we need to run the ball well and stay out of third and long. It's those downs which may give us trouble. But if they sell out on the blitz, we have plays that can beat that.  

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Cards are good against Seattle. I’d expect they go to that ‘Russell Wilson experience well’ to defend Hurts. They are much more prepared for it than New Orleans was.

NO had years of playing against Cam to prepare for a running qb. Hurts was just better than their defense, and I expect the same against Arizona.

Pederson says he wants Wentz to be able to walk to the line and make calls/change calls. So Carson has been in charge of the offense a fair amount. They go over things during the week. Come up with the concepts. You obviously are going to get pretty specific on the opponents bread and butter plays. How we should attack it. These are the keys. Film study is huge. Probably especially with a cerebral QB like Wentz. Going over all the looks they’ve shown this season(and beyond). Playing out all the scenarios. So they call plays. But that isn’t nearly set in stone. It does dictate personnel packaging(Who’s on the field).

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t most of that due to lack of weapons? Didn’t you notice a boost when Alshon was brought in? Or the small flash of DJax for one game? Just really needed some speed and weapon/s. 

Again think it’s Wentz being good I don’t think it’s dougs offense. We aren’t the only team that deals with injuries at skill positions and still produce.

Like I stated think Wentz is talented don’t think Dougs Os suit him 

3 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Seattle put up over 30 points in the first game against them and 28 in the second game, running for 164 yards. So it's not like they stopped their offense. As far as the zero blitz, we saw that look against the Saints and we ran a play that, had we connected, Reagor would still be running. So we obviously have to execute, but the plays are there to be made. Goedert also gives us essentially a third OT, so if they pressure us, we can just leave him in to block. Our RBs do have to be better at blitz pickup, though.

The bottom line is that we need to run the ball well and stay out of third and long. It's those downs which may give us trouble. But if they sell out on the blitz, we have plays that can beat that.  

But look at those perfect passes Wilson delivered. Unstoppable kind of TD throws. And look again at what happened when the Cards adjusted and started showing these Zero blitz looks like I said in the second half of that first game. Hawks scored 7 points that whole second half. From some MVP level play from Wilson. Cards came back and won in OT.

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again think it’s Wentz being good I don’t think it’s dougs offense. We aren’t the only team that deals with injuries at skill positions and still produce.

Like I stated think Wentz is talented don’t think Dougs Os suit him 

Just haven’t had much talent. Oline big talent. SB season had the RB action. 2016 and 2018 didn’t have anything in the backfield. Basically only had Alshon at WR. Pulled 789 yards with 9 TDs in 2017. 843 yards and six TDs in 2018. Then fell off for a ton of reasons last year....I’ll call it injury related since he tried to play through injury most of the time when he wasn’t sitting out. Had Agholor. But he had issues here. Trouble tracking the ball mostly it seemed. Had a good WR coach that got the best out of him a season. Really did blame Groh’s replacement and was glad when Groh was hired to be WR coach. So some of the fault might be in the position coach IMO. So been leaning on Ertz. Got Goedert and Sanders involved also last year. Got good contributions out of those three. You know....the talent.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just haven’t had much talent. Oline big talent. SB season had the RB action. 2016 and 2018 didn’t have anything in the backfield. Basically only had Alshon at WR. Pulled 789 yards with 9 TDs in 2017. 843 yards and six TDs in 2018. Then fell off for a ton of reasons last year....I’ll call it injury related since he tried to play through injury most of the time when he wasn’t sitting out. Had Agholor. But he had issues here. Trouble tracking the ball mostly it seemed. Had a good WR coach that got the best out of him a season. Really did blame Groh’s replacement and was glad when Groh was hired to be WR coach. So some of the fault might be in the position coach IMO. So been leaning on Ertz. Got Goedert and Sanders involved also last year. Got good contributions out of those three. You know....the talent.

So can’t get the most out of a 2nd rounder, first rounder another first rounder two stud TEs, 2nd round RB.... I’m sorry think it’s more excuses.... Think Wentz is a stud just don’t think it fits Dougs O scheme. 

Not every pick is great. Seemed like we all were thinking Metcalf and they pulled out JJAW. I don’t remember any of us wanting JJAW. I wanted Marquise Hollywood Brown(went in our original spot we trade with Balt for Dillard). But the number one pick Dillard hasn’t done squat for this O. Doesn’t have anything to do with Pedey or 11.  Do think they really added Sanders in well. Guy had very low playing time in college(one season). Really didn’t have experience in the passing game. So think they brought him along well last season. Goedert maybe could have been utilized more his rookie year. Integrated him much more once they could really plan for it last season. Reagor was injured during TC. Injured his thumb early in the season.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Not every pick is great. Seemed like we all were thinking Metcalf and they pulled out JJAW. I don’t remember any of us wanting JJAW. I wanted Marquise Hollywood Brown(went in our original spot we trade with Balt for Dillard). But the number one pick Dillard hasn’t done squat for this O. Doesn’t have anything to do with Pedey or 11.  Do think they really added Sanders in well. Guy had very low playing time in college(one season). Really didn’t have experience in the passing game. So think they brought him along well last season. Goedert maybe could have been utilized more his rookie year. Integrated him much more once they could really plan for it last season. Reagor was injured during TC. Injured his thumb early in the season.

And not every pick is bad but isn’t used correctly look at Douglas or Sidney 

Hell even AG in Oakland 

But talking about this season....is a whole other thing. So much atypical stuff happened this year. The year of COVID will always have an asterisk. Just glad we got some football.

Dion Lewis

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And not every pick is bad but isn’t used correctly look at Douglas or Sidney 

Hell even AG in Oakland 

Sidney was injured most of the time. Can’t blame a coach for a guy on the Trainer’s table. But that’s the defense ....nothing to do with Wentz Pedey relationship. Douglas given plenty of opportunity. Maybe just needed a little change. Maybe fits there a little more. Hard to say. Agholor you almost can follow the WR coaching trail it seems. Groh had him kicking butt even through his deficiencies. Walsh or Welch or whomever kind of sucked. Showed through the whole WR corps.

Groh got back into coaching WR harder at the end of the season last year...and it showed.

But sorry you if you thought we had the most talented offense. Just wasn’t the case. Great Oline setup for several seasons. This year you can’t really blame anybody. Injuries been brutal. I’ll blame the Peters call. That’s about it.

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sidney was injured most of the time. Can’t blame a coach for a guy on the Trainer’s table. But that’s the defense ....nothing to do with Wentz Pedey relationship. Douglas given plenty of opportunity. Maybe just needed a little change. Maybe fits there a little more. Hard to say. Agholor you almost can follow the WR coaching trail it seems. Groh had him kicking butt even through his deficiencies. Walsh or Welch or whomever kind of sucked. Showed through the whole WR corps.

Just keep hearing more and more excuses for failed players 

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But sorry you if you thought we had the most talented offense. Just wasn’t the case. Great Oline setup for several seasons. This year you can’t really blame anybody. Injuries been brutal. I’ll blame the Peters call. That’s about it.

I never thought we had the most talented offense ever I also think we have a lack luster offensive scheme. I’m sorry you think Doug is some magical play caller that maximizes talent because I have not seen it

You spent big on Djax, Alshon, spent 2nd on Ertz, Geodart, Jjaw Sanders, firsts on AG and Reagor and still making excuses for why the O can’t produced lmao. 
 

Then it’s oh well Djax got hurt he completely crippled our O in 19 after that so 1 player makes the entire offense apparently.