18 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Of coarse if he hits Reagor in stride instead....that really would have changed things also. One play can change everything. The Sanders 82 run would be a good example. Make that a no gain and how does everybody feel about everything?

We can play "what if" forever. Fact remains it's a game of plays and inches at times. Either you execute or you don't. Big plays happen, some you make, some you get burned on. All part of the game but WHAT IF we had started Hurts in week 4 like I said(and got bashed for lol)

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

COVID effect going to be magnified each week going forward now. Ravens are potentially down three WRs now.

Ridiculous, you have a better chance dying from a, lightning strike, so BAN OUTDOOR Stadiums immediately!!!!!

Here's an analysis of the Giants and Cardinals that is pretty well done.

Giants Defense v. Cardinals ALL-22 Stream - YouTube

It shows the Giants played a lot of cover two and Tampa Two, which is interesting since we played a lot of cover two after McLeod went out, and it is probably a better defense to stop the Cardinals. They put up 26 points against the Giants, but it was because the offense handed them free points with great starting field position.

To me, this game will show us a lot about what our secondary depth looks like. I like Epps but haven't been impressed by Wallace. But this is a game where they will both have a chance to make plays. I would like to see Jacquet play in this game to see how he does in zone. He is a great tackler, which is really key against a team like the Cardinals. I think he has much more potential than the other corners.

Maddox being out probably helps us, since he was struggling. McLeod being out helps just so we can see what we have in the younger guys. Slay has been bad the last few weeks, so I would probably rather see him sit as well, though we are thin at corner. But a combination of Jacquet/Seymour, Mills and NRC is probably as good as one of Maddox, NRC and a banged up Slay anyway.

The Giants didn't get a great pass rush against Murray, which is probably by design since the key to stopping him seems to be to contain him in the pocket and make him find a soft spot in the zone rather the giving him the option to run  or the knowledge that he has man to man with Hopkins on Mills. 

This is a review of the Giants offense versus the Cardinals defense.

Giants Offense v. Cardinals All-22 Stream - YouTube

Jones was hurt so he couldn't run, so the Cardinals played a ton of man and were able to generate a lot of pressure. Their corners were good at disrupting routes at the LOS.

I thought the Giants missed a lot of opportunities to throw to the running backs. A few times they were wide open, and Hurts showed the he was willing to take those yards against the Saints.

We should be able to RPO and read option this team to death. Run against their light packages (two DTs, two OLBs) and pass against their heavy packages (three DTs, two OLBs.) I would be happy with the team using Goedert and Miles up and down the field, since that is where the matchups will be won. Basically figure out where Baker is and attack where he isn't, as he is the one guy who can be disruptive.

The Giants oline played really poorly, so we should see a significant upgrade in our play. Their RT is a rookie named Peart who is not better than Pryor. Mailata, Herbig, Kelce and Seumalo are all better than their counterparts on the Giants, so we should be okay. Goedert is a better run blocker than any of the Giants TEs. Sanders is better than Gallman and Hurts is a better running than a hobbled Jones.

If we can run and complete short passes on them, it should allow us to take some deep shots if they have to crowd the box.

Overall, we should see an improvement in the offense. This is a step down from the team we faced last week. 

So, now if Hurts sticks, we are back to square one of "we need to get him better weapons", while we have the most overpaid pine rider in league history

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So, now if Hurts sticks, we are back to square one of "we need to get him better weapons", while we have the most overpaid pine rider in league history

Nah, I'll bet find a home for Wentz if that's the way it comes down. They make take a hit but not as bad as just sitting him or cutting him.

Howie won't take that hit this year

Thursday's injury report has some good news on Cox, Slay and Ford.

Philadelphia Eagles on Twitter: "Thursday Injury Report https://t.co/Wdbgm24FMQ" / Twitter

Slay being limited is good news, since it means he is advancing through the concussion protocol. I guess if he can go he will be out there since we are in survival mode. Ford helps on special teams.

If Slay plays, it will be interesting to see if they keep Mills at safety and play Seymour at corner. I would probably lean toward this, as Wallace hasn't looked great.

Edwards being banged up probably doesn't hurt us much since Riley and Singleton have been really good as the nickel linebackers, and Arizona plays most 11 personnel.

 

 

A good looks at Shaun Bradley.

Shaun Bradley vs Saints 2020 - YouTube

What I like about him is his awareness to get depth in zone coverage, taking away easy throws for the qb, and his gap discipline.

Quietly, we are getting really good linebacker play, which has somewhat come out of nowhere, and which some fans seem unwilling to acknowledge. Duke Riley, who was on my poop list at the start of the year, has been really solid lately. Singleton has been way above average. Edwards has been banged up, but I really like him as a base linebacker. The Saints tape showed Bradley played well.

Early in the year I thought our LB killed us every week. Lately, though, it has somewhat saved us, especially since the secondary play has been bad at times. If you watch the first play of the video, Mills and Epps lose track of Michael Thomas, as if that should even be possible against the Saints. I mean, it's Michael Thomas on a fourth down play, maybe you should think about covering him?

 

I don’t know if I agree with that breakdown on Bradley. Think he should have switched off to the crosser on the one he went deep. Forced the S to cover a ton of ground to cover him. Thought he over ran the one run play. Got washed away. I’d say he’s trying to overrun the run and his coverage to cover up his lack of actual speed. So he’s pre-overplaying it. He got back in coverage but isn’t staying with any actual cut by a receiver.

 Singleton has earned playing time since 2019 Preseason I thought. Riley seems to be improving with snaps. Edwards has looked pretty legit from the get go.

Of coarse we’ve seen much worse from our LBs

On 12/15/2020 at 8:07 AM, Bleedinggreen93 said:

AZ is the decision game for me if we upset AZ I say go for the East crown. Won’t matter that we are 7-8-1 if we make the playoffs hot. 

They are going to try to win every game. It doesn't matter what we think or want them to do. But this team is no way good enough to do anything in the playoffs. I doubt they win this week. I just want them to sweep Dallas because i hate the cowpies so much.

I really hope Slay can play this week. I think he is a VERY good CB AND has showed toughness on more than one occasion this year. The guys that get a boo boo (Djax seasons past) and can’t find their way to play in the following game drives me crazy.

I will be surprised if Schwartz can find a way to stop AZ.

Question to you all....If you were the GM right now, are you trading Wentz? 
I think he is too good. I would find me a better coach before I trade Wentz. I just think Wentz would go on to win Championships elsewhere. THAT would really piss me off.

That being said, Wentz’ play this year was bad....not below average....it was bad. The tough thing to evaluate THIS season though is OLINE injuries and lack of commitment to a balanced offense.

BIG decisions, IF and only if, Hurts finishes the year looking like a QB with a legitimate, long term future.

I’m wouldn’t trade Wentz. I don’t really blame the coach either. I think he lost his best target in Ertz. That hurt. But also think he got a big head and wasn’t completely focused on perfecting his craft. So the injuries along the Oline disrupted him even more. The young pass catchers limiting the playbook effected him more. I think Wentz needed to be put in check so he’d be open to being coached. No more keys to the city and running the whole town. We need a little more blue collar version. He struggled mightily this season. Still showed his Uber competitiveness.

I like Hurts. I don’t mind having two good QBs. Was thinking Hurts needs to develop. So expecting him to improve big time his first few seasons. That was my initial read. But let’s see what he’s got.

10 hours ago, Senhorcook said:

I will be surprised if Schwartz can find a way to stop AZ.

Seems unlikely the best defense vs AZ is likely our offense being successful and sustaining drives chewing clock have to win the ToP 

It looks like Howie is staying.

Eliot Shorr-Parks on Twitter: "Report: Jeffrey Lurie will not be firing Howie Roseman at the end of #Eagles season https://t.co/kLjsGMALw4" / Twitter

I agree with this decision. This season was undone by bad qb play as much as anything. If the team can finish strong, I would give the current regime another year.

Plus, the major decisions facing the team are ones that, regardless of whom the GM is, will be heavily influenced by the owner. Specifically what the team will do at qb. I believe that Lurie will be the one deciding if the team sticks with Wentz or seeks to trade him, since it is ultimately his money. So that issue is largely out of Howie's hands.

If the team struggles next year, then a new GM can come in with a ton of cap space and high draft picks, and will likely have leverage to make moves without too much input from the owner.

But if we fire Howie now, the new GM is going to be confronted with a potential disaster at qb and a definite disaster with the salary cap, problems which he didn't create and which he won't have full autonomy to fix.

  

 

25 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

It looks like Howie is staying.

Eliot Shorr-Parks on Twitter: "Report: Jeffrey Lurie will not be firing Howie Roseman at the end of #Eagles season https://t.co/kLjsGMALw4" / Twitter

I agree with this decision. This season was undone by bad qb play as much as anything. If the team can finish strong, I would give the current regime another year.

Plus, the major decisions facing the team are ones that, regardless of whom the GM is, will be heavily influenced by the owner. Specifically what the team will do at qb. I believe that Lurie will be the one deciding if the team sticks with Wentz or seeks to trade him, since it is ultimately his money. So that issue is largely out of Howie's hands.

If the team struggles next year, then a new GM can come in with a ton of cap space and high draft picks, and will likely have leverage to make moves without too much input from the owner.

But if we fire Howie now, the new GM is going to be confronted with a potential disaster at qb and a definite disaster with the salary cap, problems which he didn't create and which he won't have full autonomy to fix.

  

 

Great, so Mister Smarter-Than-Everyone-Else-In-The-Room can pass on Ja’Marr Chase for Tutu Atwell because he is faster!

Not to mention play kick-the-can-down-the-road more to make the future cap situation even worse.  

Dear God he needs to go, the sooner the better (but also assumed Lurie wouldn’t have the stones to do it ... that Lombardi bought boy genius a much longer leash than he deserves).  

18 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Great, so Mister Smarter-Than-Everyone-Else-In-The-Room can pass on Ja’Marr Chase for Tutu Atwell because he is faster!

 

I doubt that would be the case lol and using Reagor vs Jefferson debate doesn’t mean anything... Jefferson in our O isn’t doing anything im sorry dude might be a good player he’ll thing reagor is going to be a good player but it isn’t going to show in this years O. 
 

Even watching vs the Saints Reagor should have easily went over 100 yards if Hurts didn’t miss him wide open deep. And he has been missed deep quite a bit in this O. 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I doubt that would be the case lol and using Reagor vs Jefferson debate doesn’t mean anything... Jefferson in our O isn’t doing anything im sorry dude might be a good player he’ll thing reagor is going to be a good player but it isn’t going to show in this years O. 
 

Even watching vs the Saints Reagor should have easily went over 100 yards if Hurts didn’t miss him wide open deep. And he has been missed deep quite a bit in this O. 

I don’t trust Howie’s talent evaluation. JJ vs Reagor is just one example on a long list of draft failures.  

7 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Not to mention play kick-the-can-down-the-road more to make the future cap situation even worse. 

I think the cap situation is wildly overblown. If we cut ties with Wentz and go with Hurts, we will have plenty of room. if we keep Wentz, we can create plenty of room by restructuring his contract. Plus, everyone is somewhat screwed by the cap dropping next year, not just us.

Just now, jsb235 said:

I think the cap situation is wildly overblown. If we cut ties with Wentz and go with Hurts, we will have plenty of room. if we keep Wentz, we can create plenty of room by restructuring his contract. Plus, everyone is somewhat screwed by the cap dropping next year, not just us.

Restructure Wentz and end up being on the hook for even more guaranteed money thereby making it even more difficult to move on if he doesn’t get his act together?  

I get the pandemic will make the cap situation difficult for every team ... we just happen to be in the worst shape of all teams.  

Just now, time2rock said:

I don’t trust Howie’s talent evaluation. JJ vs Reagor is just one example on a long list of draft failures.  

I mean but again I don’t think it’s a failure.... Swap those guys.

What is Jefferson doing here in philly I guarantee he isn’t a 1000 yard WR. Then on the flip side what does Reagor look like in Minnesota bet it’s significantly better then here in this O. 
 

Even going further Howie has found some decently talented players and we can see it when guys leave here so that beg the question of is it our coaches??? Is our FO and coaches not on the same pages???

33 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Not to mention play kick-the-can-down-the-road more to make the future cap situation even worse.  

 

I mean this is a pretty common thing in the nfl not like it’s a Howie thing pretty much every team does stuff like this is what it is. If the player works it not a bad concept if they don’t then it looks terrible.

Right now I’m still on board with the go defense approach to the draft. I have not done a deep dive on this years coming draft class but think our D a nice infusion of youth.

DL I like Sweat a lot and actually thinking Hargrove is coming on took him a bit to get used to the new scheme but looking like could be a decent addition only 27. But those are the only 2 guys not over 30. Barnett is alright not sure he is worth his 5th year option money though.

LB- singleton he is the only decent starter we have maybe Bradley or Taylor show something and improve but right now I say Singleton is the only starting worthy Lb on the team.

CB- Slay that’s it and he is what 30. Maddox might be alright in the slot but definitely need another man CB for the outside maybe 2. 
 

S- I like Mills at S and I’m a fan of Wallace as well he needs bit of time but think he will be alright this might be the only spot if maybe hold off a year on unless some great fell in our laps.