5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I like Hurts. I don’t mind having two good QBs. Was thinking Hurts needs to develop. So expecting him to improve big time his first few seasons. That was my initial read. But let’s see what he’s got.

SO a rook QB needs to develop, yet this yet to be developed rook is kicking your "developed" QB under the rug .It's like buying a Ferrari and letting it sit out in the yard for 5 years. Wentz may LIKE his buddy,but he is certainly not helping. His accuracy stinks, his decision making stinks, and he makes more rook mistakes than rooks. We blame the O line,but really,if that was the case how did we beat one of the best defenses in the leauge? If it was just the O line Hurts would have looked as bad as Wentz. Hurts got the team to rally around him,Wentz, this year, never did

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

It looks like Howie is staying.

Eliot Shorr-Parks on Twitter: "Report: Jeffrey Lurie will not be firing Howie Roseman at the end of #Eagles season https://t.co/kLjsGMALw4" / Twitter

I agree with this decision. This season was undone by bad qb play as much as anything. If the team can finish strong, I would give the current regime another year.

Plus, the major decisions facing the team are ones that, regardless of whom the GM is, will be heavily influenced by the owner. Specifically what the team will do at qb. I believe that Lurie will be the one deciding if the team sticks with Wentz or seeks to trade him, since it is ultimately his money. So that issue is largely out of Howie's hands.

If the team struggles next year, then a new GM can come in with a ton of cap space and high draft picks, and will likely have leverage to make moves without too much input from the owner.

But if we fire Howie now, the new GM is going to be confronted with a potential disaster at qb and a definite disaster with the salary cap, problems which he didn't create and which he won't have full autonomy to fix.

  

 

No need to fire Howie, but I'd rather split that position and hire a REAL GM, a "football" guy who can breathe some life into "Pedestrian Pederson" and find staff that are CAPABLE of doing their assigned jobs

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Jefferson in our O isn’t doing anything im sorry dude might be a good player

LOL only leading this rook class by a LONGSHOT(yeah he's pretty good lol) He can't do anything in our O because we didn't draft him, so how would you know what he could have done here? JJ can play X,Y,Z, no matter. Reagor plays one spot. I hope he pans out. it appears he is getting better and that's all we need him to do. Even I could sit back and toss JJ crossing route center patterns all day and he would take some to the house. I wanted JJ because he was the reliable target we needed and you could hit him 10,12 times a game. Reagor gives you 4,6(maybe). So we will see if Reagor pans out. he looks like he could grow and have chemistry with Hurts, which I saw none of with Wentz 

2 hours ago, time2rock said:

I don’t trust Howie’s talent evaluation. JJ vs Reagor is just one example on a long list of draft failures.  

Why I keep hammering that we need that position SPLIT and hire a real GM

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL only leading this rook class by a LONGSHOT

That great but again is he doing that in OUR OFFENSE!!!!! I thought Jefferson was a good player coming out I’m just not delusional in thinking he would have remotely as much success here in philly as he is having in Minnesota 

Also your arguement about oh we didn’t draft him so you don’t know what he would do in our offense goes both ways lmao so that crap don’t mean anything. 

You guys do know that Malcolm Jenkins was also once a failed Cb that didn't become star until his 2nd or 3rd year after transitioning to safety, right?  Mills hasn't been great but he certainly hasn't made a fool of himself either.  Schwartz demands a LOT from the SS.

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

Mills hasn't been great but he certainly hasn't made a fool of himself either.  Schwartz demands a LOT from the FS.

Mills really hasn’t been terrible at S from the games I’ve watched his play AT S has been fine and I’d image he improved the more he plays at S. The worst reps I’ve seen from Mills al year is when we have asked him to move down to CB 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why I keep hammering that we need that position SPLIT and hire a real GM

So just fire Howie and get a real GM lol no need to keep Howie splitting the rope makes zero sense.

This QB question looms large for us. IMO we need this resolved(which it will be by years end). My draft board would change and be different if Hurts or Wentz was the QB. Easy to say "BPA", but really you need to draft BPA taking into consideration who you are drafting for. If Wentz stays and is our QB going forward, I would have to look at O line, or at least put an emphasis on that and boost the defense. If it's Hurts, I would be looking more for a RB2 and an additional WR. As bad as our defense may(or may not) be, the object for me is to keep TOP and score once you hit the RZ if Hurts is your guy. Of course we can add a D player or 3. SO for me,getting my draft board set would depend on whom the QB is going forward

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

That great but again is he doing that in OUR OFFENSE!!!!! I thought Jefferson was a good player coming out I’m just not delusional in thinking he would have remotely as much success here in philly as he is having in Minnesota 

Also your arguement about oh we didn’t draft him so you don’t know what he would do in our offense goes both ways lmao so that crap don’t mean anything. 

I have no idea if he would do that in our offense,thats the point. Giving (even Wentz) to top reliable short option guy who gives hims a wondow would not work in this offense? Are we watching the same offense?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

This QB question looms large for us. IMO we need this resolved(which it will be by years end). My draft board would change and be different if Hurts or Wentz was the QB. Easy to say "BPA", but really you need to draft BPA taking into consideration who you are drafting for. If Wentz stays and is our QB going forward, I would have to look at O line, or at least put an emphasis on that and boost the defense. If it's Hurts, I would be looking more for a RB2 and an additional WR. As bad as our defense may(or may not) be, the object for me is to keep TOP and score once you hit the RZ if Hurts is your guy. Of course we can add a D player or 3. SO for me,getting my draft board set would depend on whom the QB is going forward

Honest my draft approach wouldn’t change if it’s Hurts or Wentz. If we are drafting top 10 get the highest rated player on our board that not a QB that simple to me. If that Chase fine Parsons, CB, DL fine.

OL just need to get healthy getting Brooks back a healthy Lane, Mailata getting and off-season reps at LT competing with Dillard, Semaulo at LG will be vastly improved.

Would also still have Driscoll who was having a good rookie year, Herbig and Jergia as backups. Loser of the Dillard/Maialta as well as a backup.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have no idea if he would do that in our offense,thats the point lol

I mean doesn’t matter if he is running wide open if the QB can’t hit an open target sooooo going with he isn’t producing nearly the level he is in Minnesota it’s not a knock on the player just reality of our offense 

It’s not really that hard to tell that he wouldn’t produce the same here as he is in Minnesota 

26 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So just fire Howie and get a real GM lol no need to keep Howie splitting the rope makes zero sense.

Lurie already he said he is not firing Howie, so getting a GM make perfect sense

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Honest my draft approach wouldn’t change if it’s Hurts or Wentz

And thats why we keep losing,we don't draft to our QB's strengths. I strive for more than .500

13 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Honest my draft approach wouldn’t change if it’s Hurts or Wentz. If we are drafting top 10 get the highest rated player on our board that not a QB that simple to me. If that Chase fine Parsons, CB, DL fine.

OL just need to get healthy getting Brooks back a healthy Lane, Mailata getting and off-season reps at LT competing with Dillard, Semaulo at LG will be vastly improved.

Would also still have Driscoll who was having a good rookie year, Herbig and Jergia as backups. Loser of the Dillard/Maialta as well as a backup.

I mean doesn’t matter if he is running wide open if the QB can’t hit an open target sooooo going with he isn’t producing nearly the level he is in Minnesota it’s not a knock on the player just reality of our offense 

OK so,you know your O line is shaky. We already know beforehand we would have some new players on that line. At that point you have no idea how that will work out cause all you see is practice. Now as a coach you think,we MAY have to get the ball out faster if this O line is not that good. So you have your choice of 1 ) Reagor who runs the longer, more time consuming route  patterns OR 2) JJ who can run routes from ANY position. Now you have the quick pass outlet depending on who you play and how much pressure they are getting. If they are NOT getting pressure,you can put him outside(like Reagor), but in the event you NEED to get that quick pass out and you have a solid "star" slot,who do you chose? I choose the guy that gives my Qb the most options and who I can scheme anywhere depending on my opponent. That guy was JJ IMO. And that is exactly how the VIkes use him. They move him to their advantage

OH and BTW WHY when we chose Reagor did the VIKES war room erupt in cheers? (because we gifted them and they are not stupid) 

I am not bashing Reagor, he will be good at what he does in time. And it appears he is acclimating well to Hurts, so that is a good thing, but at the time JJ was a better option for us. I think Fulgham can stick here also. Ward is solid, he should stay. I have no opinion on wuss out Goodwin. Maybe he's ok here,IDK I have to see him, if we even keep him. I suppose we should, the contract is already GOOD for next year and he came cheap enough, so no need to go FA shopping since he is basically already paid for. Should be a very interesting draft 

38 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

You guys do know that Malcolm Jenkins was also once a failed Cb that didn't become star until his 2nd or 3rd year after transitioning to safety, right?  Mills hasn't been great but he certainly hasn't made a fool of himself either.  Schwartz demands a LOT from the SS.

Lots of guys we let go are playing well and starting elsewhere. I am not inside, but someone who IS needs to figure out why that is???? We are paying them to figure this out and they are not

37 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So just fire Howie and get a real GM lol no need to keep Howie splitting the rope makes zero sense.

You can't tie a stronger knot with 2 ropes than 1

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lurie already he said he is not firing Howie, so getting a GM make perfect sense

Even through I’ve been saying Howie needs to go, I’ve also said all along that I didn’t think Lurie would fire him, that the Lombardi bought him a bit of a longer leash.  The next best thing would be to hire a personnel guy and put him in charge of leading the talent evaluation effort here.  Fingers crossed Lurie at least sees that much.   

10 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Even through I’ve been saying Howie needs to go, I’ve also said all along that I didn’t think Lurie would fire him, that the Lombardi bought him a bit of a longer leash.  The next best thing would be to hire a personnel guy and put him in charge of leading the talent evaluation effort here.  Fingers crossed Lurie at least sees that much.   

Yes, that would be the GM 93 says "makes zero sense" lol

24 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Even through I’ve been saying Howie needs to go, I’ve also said all along that I didn’t think Lurie would fire him, that the Lombardi bought him a bit of a longer leash.  The next best thing would be to hire a personnel guy and put him in charge of leading the talent evaluation effort here.  Fingers crossed Lurie at least sees that much.   

Yeah, that was Luries call. I knew he would need to make it. So now that that is set in stone...............

Final injury report is out.

Philadelphia Eagles on Twitter: "#PHIvsAZ Status Report https://t.co/onysjfRPPt" / Twitter

Slay and Malik Jackson are the only real question marks heading into the game, and my guess is that they will play. Though Slay has been really shaky lately and we are going to play a ton of zone anyway, so I don't see a reason to rush him back.

Our oline needs to stay healthy. We are at the bitter end. Toth, Juriga and Prince will likely be the three subs, and I would hate to see any of them have to play.

One under the radar injury to the Cardinals is Hopkins, who is battling through some nagging injuries and hasn't practiced this week. Him being less than 100 percent would be really good for us. They also have two linemen banged up, as well as Edmonds, who normally splits snaps at RB. They are also missing a few pieces of the defense. 

If we hire noone and Howie remains as "GM", then I would hope Lurie kicks his butt and tells him to learn about defensive players. He took a year on his own to learn to be more of a "football guy". I think it helped a little, but he needs more training. If this is the long term set-up of not hiring a GM, I think Howie needs to take it upon himself or be brow beaten to learn more. It would also be one less FO to pay(which is of minor importance if you want to win) and help the team in the future. So, for me, this is the either/or route we need to do. I think Lurie will opt for the latter because obviously by retaining him, he still has faith. So IMO getting Howie more training should top Luries "to do" list

8 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Final injury report is out.

Philadelphia Eagles on Twitter: "#PHIvsAZ Status Report https://t.co/onysjfRPPt" / Twitter

Slay and Malik Jackson are the only real question marks heading into the game, and my guess is that they will play. Though Slay has been really shaky lately and we are going to play a ton of zone anyway, so I don't see a reason to rush him back.

Our oline needs to stay healthy. We are at the bitter end. Toth, Juriga and Prince will likely be the three subs, and I would hate to see any of them have to play.

One under the radar injury to the Cardinals is Hopkins, who is battling through some nagging injuries and hasn't practiced this week. Him being less than 100 percent would be really good for us. They also have two linemen banged up, as well as Edmonds, who normally splits snaps at RB. They are also missing a few pieces of the defense. 

I think Slay MUST play. They have some really nice WR's and we're going to have to close down at least one of them. TWO would be better, but one closing off one should be a priority. IDK why I say this cause I have Murray in fantasy lol

13 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Final injury report is out.

Philadelphia Eagles on Twitter: "#PHIvsAZ Status Report https://t.co/onysjfRPPt" / Twitter

Slay and Malik Jackson are the only real question marks heading into the game, and my guess is that they will play. Though Slay has been really shaky lately and we are going to play a ton of zone anyway, so I don't see a reason to rush him back.

Our oline needs to stay healthy. We are at the bitter end. Toth, Juriga and Prince will likely be the three subs, and I would hate to see any of them have to play.

One under the radar injury to the Cardinals is Hopkins, who is battling through some nagging injuries and hasn't practiced this week. Him being less than 100 percent would be really good for us. They also have two linemen banged up, as well as Edmonds, who normally splits snaps at RB. They are also missing a few pieces of the defense. 

So would YOU(personally) play jacquet? The hammy bothers me,but I think it's all hands on deck for this one