Wow! Hurts takes a big hit....then forcing things trying to come from behind throws a pick. Is it all still on Wentz? Hurts still the savior that can overcome everything?

So here's the "trap" Djax is making a case for stay here. I hope we ignore that and move on 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wow! Hurts takes a big hit....then forcing things trying to come from behind throws a pick. Is it all still on Wentz? Hurts still the savior that can overcome everything?

IDK not getting the game here. Maybe they are competing for worst QB in the league

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

TBH Sanders isn't a good blocker really. Ertz can go away as far as I am concerned. or once again is that another problem? he used to be the go to guy who put up league top 5 numbers,then he trailed off. So IDK, this team is MUCH worse than I suspected

Ertz has been our best skill player on offense. Is him sucking on Wentz also? Just because Wentz gets paid the BIG BUCKS!

So, if you could trade Wentz for the 2 pick and could get Fields at QB would you do it? 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ertz has been our best skill player on offense. Is him sucking on Wentz also? Just because Wentz gets paid the BIG BUCKS!

IDk Wentz can't hit the side of a barn with bass fiddle. Is that worth 34 million a year to you?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So, if you could trade Wentz for the 2 pick and could get Fields at QB would you do it? 

No. Fields doesn’t look worth the two pick

I think I like Hurts more than Fields. Hard to judge Fields but so much. Hasn’t done too much.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ertz has been our best skill player on offense. Is him sucking on Wentz also? Just because Wentz gets paid the BIG BUCKS!

If he can't hit him yes that would be on Wentz. he did it before,but that up and vanished

I like Wentz better than Fields also. Probably need to say that...the way some are talking.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No. Fields doesn’t look worth the two pick

I think I like Hurts more than Fields. Hard to judge Fields but so much. Hasn’t done too much.

yeah but it's an op to dump Wentz lol. IDK what the decision will be,but we have to commit one way or the other. This limbo will kill any progress we may have

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If he can't hit him yes that would be on Wentz. he did it before,but the vanished

Not how I saw things this season unfold. I think Ertz was pissed about not getting a new contract. Then got hurt. All pretty much on Ertz though...I’d say.

So,since we are losing,put Wentz in. he sat in the corner awhile,maybe he plays better now

 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

yeah but it's an op to dump Wentz lol. IDK what the decision will be,but we have to commit one way or the other. This limbo will kill any progress we may have

Why do we have to commit one way or the other?

We already committed to Wentz it seems to me. So I think we have to fix him.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not how I saw things this season unfold. I think Ertz was pissed about not getting a new contract. Then got hurt. All pretty much on Ertz though...I’d say.

Not great stats either way. The play dropped off and these are both the guys we pay ALOT

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why do we have to commit one way or the other?

We already committed to Wentz it seems to me. So I think we have to fix him.

Alot of football is timing and trust and knowing how the QB plays. if you keep changing things,nothing gets settled. We saw that with our O line. We really don't need to do that at QB too

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why do we have to commit one way or the other?

We already committed to Wentz it seems to me. So I think we have to fix him.

We committed to the Wentz that played well and he fooled us, or lost his mojo

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not great stats either way. The play dropped off and these are both the guys we pay ALOT

Seems like that’s a valid excuse for Wentz. Ertz contract and then he flaked and sucked. DJax injured. Alshon injured. Brooks injured. Lane injured. Dillard injured. Those guys are our best offensive players. You can’t not see that.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Alot of football is timing and trust and knowing how the QB plays. if you keep changing things,nothing gets settled. We saw that with our O line. We really don't need to do that at QB too

We committed to the Wentz that played well and he fooled us, or lost his mojo

You just said the Oline played musical chairs all season....probably a big factor, don’t you think?

Welp Ham,thats why I think taking Myers as our new C would be beneficial. Kelce threatens retirement every year and I don't want to have another JP debacle. He would be a solid base for our O line for a decade, so I am kind of leaning that way

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just said the Oline played musical chairs all season....probably a big factor, don’t you think?

Well they weren't too bad to open the season and Wentz looked awful anyway, so IDK

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well they weren't too bad to open the season and Wentz looked awful anyway, so IDK

They were horrible!!!!! Peters had, by far, his worst season. Lane was terrible this season playing injured as well. We couldn’t pickup a stunt to save our lives.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like that’s a valid excuse for Wentz. Ertz contract and then he flaked and sucked. DJax injured. Alshon injured. Brooks injured. Lane injured. Dillard injured. Those guys are our best offensive players. You can’t not see that.

I see that,but that doesn't excuse Wentz from taking sacks(throw it away) and forcing picks game after game after game. If you are digging yourself into a hole STOP digging

Seumalo probably had his worst season as well. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They were horrible!!!!! Peters had, by far, his worst season. Lane was terrible this season playing injured as well. We couldn’t pickup a stunt to save our lives.

So if that is the case we'd better draft O line with our first 3 picks

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seumalo probably had his worst season as well. 

So then we will have no oline no matter what we do if noone is stepping up

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I see that,but that doesn't excuse Wentz from taking sacks(throw it away) and forcing picks game after game after game. If you are digging yourself into a hole STOP digging

Yes,...I think it does excuse SOME sacks and interceptions. Some were very directly the Olines fault. Not having your best skill players is a double whammy!

  So who was digging the hole? 

I know you don't take stock in these things,neither do I really,but at the start of the season our power ranking was 6th best, so on paper we had a team lol

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes,...I think it does excuse SOME sacks and interceptions. Some were very directly the Olines fault. Not having your best skill players is a double whammy!

  So who was digging the hole? 

Well then like I said we better draft O line with our first 3 picks or the QB won't matter. I also don;t know if Wentz was calling audibles because we didn't use Sanders much at all. Without a run game,they will just tee off on you

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So if that is the case we'd better draft O line with our first 3 picks

So then we will have no oline no matter what we do if noone is stepping up

Well we took a T with our first round pick last season. Traded up to get Mailata a few seasons back. So LT has to be a battle between them two. Lane has been good when available and not too injured. Driscoll looked really good in his few games this rookie season. So that’s two RT. Brooks has been arguably the best RG in football for the last few seasons. Lane, Brooks, Driscoll and Dillard is four Oline coming back next season.