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3 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

McDermott just wasn't ready to be a DC and besides he was following a Philly legend. It's unlikely that anyone could have succeeded under those conditions

He just wasn’t ready? So why did he immediately go to Carolina and produces a top defense? Six seasons from not being good enough for us jumped to getting his own team as a Head coach. Becoming a pretty dominant HC at that.

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28 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Sure it's conjecture i'll admit but explain why a QB goes from being really good to really bad overnight.

My daughter is a therapist who does quite a bit of work with brain unjury patients. She told me that people react to concussions very differently. Just because you exibit no after effects from one doesn't mean you won't from subsequent ones.

I think it’s a factor of getting in his head towards being gunshy after taking a bunch of hits to start this season. I’ll give you that without question.

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He just wasn’t ready? So why did he immediately go to Carolina and produces a top defense? Six seasons from not being good enough for us jumped to getting his own team as a Head coach. Becoming a pretty dominant HC at that.

McDermott was fired as DC by the eagles in Jan. 15, 2011 almost 10 years ago. Hardly 6.....  The Eagles could have waited a year or two more..... Probably should have.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He just wasn’t ready? So why did he immediately go to Carolina and produces a top defense? Six seasons from not being good enough for us jumped to getting his own team as a Head coach. Becoming a pretty dominant HC at that.

His one year of experience under the microscope in Philly was the best thing that could have happened to him.

I never said he wasn't a good coach but in Carolina he had a defensive minded HC and he wasn't under the shadow of the death of the most popular DC in Philly history.

Lets face it he wasn't gonna get a lot of help from the offensive minded AR

41 minutes ago, stine said:

Getting sacked over 50 times. No Pre Season to work with all his new WR's. Ertz injury- His best Receiver the last 3 years. Head Coach not Helping him out with Play calling. He has also not helped his cause. Footwork was not good. Held onto the ball too long. Staring down his WR's. But this is not ALL on Wentz. I did not see one coach in his ear all season, yet there is someone talking to Hurts all game long.

   Could the concussion have something to do with his play? Sure, but no further damage may actually help his cause next season, no?

Hopefully. It won't take long to find out if his mental quickness has returned.

I'd be really surprised if the NFL doesn't require a neurological test battery when someone comes into the league as a baseline for tests at a later date.

Or maybe they don't want to know to be able to claim ignorance if a player develops mental problems.

I wish comeone could explain to me why the Eagles seem to draft project players or players they don't expect to play much in the 1st 3 rounds.

To me these rounds should be for players they expect to make a contribution in year one

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

His one year of experience under the microscope in Philly was the best thing that could have happened to him.

I never said he wasn't a good coach but in Carolina he had a defensive minded HC and he wasn't under the shadow of the death of the most popular DC in Philly history.

Lets face it he wasn't gonna get a lot of help from the offensive minded AR

Hopefully. It won't take long to find out if his mental quickness has returned.

I'd be really surprised if the NFL doesn't require a neurological test battery when someone comes into the league as a baseline for tests at a later date.

Or maybe they don't want to know to be able to claim ignorance if a player develops mental problems.

  I do think the situation is better now. I do not hear about this issue now and it was all over the media a few years back....

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We aren’t drafting a run stuffer in the first six picks of the draft. That I’ll guarantee.

Pity

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'd certainly hope not. In the top 10 we can get a real difference maker, a real impact player and that's what we should be looking to do.

SO a stud DT would not be a difference maker?

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He needs the right QB whisperer/trainer to really work hard with to get things fixed

Maybe that whisperer is the guy F ing up his play? yeah I also got bashed when I said to pull Wentz in week 4, and now you are bashing me because I want to give Wentz a reason to play next year by starting him? Wentz is an alpha personality. If you understand those,you would understand my post

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'd certainly hope not. In the top 10 we can get a real difference maker, a real impact player and that's what we should be looking to do.

Remember our defense is basically based on getting to the QB??? That was the plan so we could have, well, lets just say  a "less that stellar" secondary, but now you don;t want a stud who could stuff the run and pressure the QB on the D line? Thats nuts. a CB (Like the WR's they cover) may have an impact of 6,7 plays a game. A stud DT plays every snap. What's the better value??? And although we should take a CB (maybe 2) I see no reason NOT to add a DT if that is the BPA. Everyone hypes DE's, but I would have NP choosing a guy that can STOP opponents running game. If your DE's are solid,this forces them to run pitch outs or screen in the flat,then let your DE's clean it up(you know like opponents did to us all year?????)

4 hours ago, stine said:

  so I heard on the radio this AM some interesting stats. For the first 52 ganes Wentz is 8th all time for most TD passes. He had 90 with only 35 INT's which was lower than any of the other 7 ahead of him. Manning had 92 TD passes and over 50 INT's. Some QB’s who had less TD passes: Rodgers, Brees, Montana, Brady and Farve

 

   Also first 3 seasons for Red zone he is 2nd all time. 30 Td passes to 1 INT. Trading Wentz for a 3rd or 4th round pick is a knee-jerk reaction that would kill this team. I say trade Hurts for a 1-2 rounder and get either a WR or a Center that can play guard with that pick.
You cannot keep 2 possible starting QB's for the off season. Someone told me that this would be an issue and gave me a valid reason. What do the WR's do? Normally they go work out with the QB to get in sync. So you want them to choose who to go work out with? Think about this for a second. Talk about division for a team. What does this do?

I had a mock(and could still see this happening) where we took Josh Myers at C. Kelce has been retiring for what 4 years now? I checked out the guy we have on the roster-undrafted,unspectacular camp body. If Kelce goes we need a top stud Center for the next decade. Myers is the second strongest guy on the OSU team and he blocks for those pretty nice Ohio St running backs and protects his QB's. IMO your O line starts there and I would have zero problem taking Myers with my 3 pick. I'm tired of taking in "jack of all trades,master of none" players.And while a few of those are nice to have around,lets get guys that can play their PROFESSIONAL spot. Moving players around just means it takes that much longer to hit your peak where you are SUPPOSED to play

3 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I'm gonna repeat this until somepne proves me wrong.

The reason they drafted Hurts when they had so many other needs is because they knew something had changed with Wentz (concussion?)

IMO we drafted him because of who we have. Suds has apparently "peaked" as a #3, so if he has reached that ceiling and cannot be a #2,then we needed to find one,and a young one so we wouldn't have to pay someone else as a #2. Hurts was there-BOOM. And while there were no gurantees Hurts could play,we assumed he had the ceiling to be a #2

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO a stud DT would not be a difference maker?

IMHO a stud LB would be a bigger difference maker

But we know thats not gonna happen if the current FO is in place.

3 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I disagree. Put the play calling aside.  Pre snap penalites for just one example. The team became undisciplined. That's all on the coaches and just like any organization the guy at the top gets the credit when they do good and the blame when they do bad.

I could list more examples but i'm a piss poor typist so it would take all morning.

There is no worse typist on here than me-book that

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IMO we drafted him because of who we have. Suds has apparently "peaked" as a #3, so if he has reached that ceiling and cannot be a #2,then we needed to find one,and a young one so we wouldn't have to pay someone else as a #2. Hurts was there-BOOM. And while there were no gurantees Hurts could play,we assumed he had the ceiling to be a #2

Sorry but you don't draft someone in the 2nd round who'd gonna sit on the bench. Especially when you have glaring needs at so many positions.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They talked about becoming a QB factory before the concussion happened. Drafted a QB last year also. So there you go...proven wrong.

LMFAO,OH man we're a QB factory,we crank out QB's that can play,just not HERE, so yeah other teams LOVE us cause they will pick off our QB's as we f them up(same for DB's lol)

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO a stud DT would not be a difference maker?

A run stuffing one? No. 

1 minute ago, Asg 15 said:

Sorry but you don't draft someone in the 2nd round who'd gonna sit on the bench. Especially when you have glaring needs at so many positions.

If you have no faith on your BU QB's, I think you'd need to???? Apparently they thought who we had could NOT lead us to W's in playoff games. Of course that point is moot NOW,but I assume that was the thinking behind that pick

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

A run stuffing one? No. 

Well he also can get to the QB lol,so I disagree

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Remember our defense is basically based on getting to the QB??? That was the plan so we could have, well, lets just say  a "less that stellar" secondary, but now you don;t want a stud who could stuff the run and pressure the QB on the D line?

He's a run stuffer though, not so much someone to get to the QB. Plus our DL was actually really good this year, leads the league in sacks from the DL.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you have no faith on your BU QB's, I think you'd need to???? Apparently they thought who we had could NOT lead us to W's in playoff games. Of course that point is moot NOW,but I assume that was the thinking behind that pick

I disagree. There are lots of vet QBs who could lead a team.  I love Foles but lets face it he could just as easily been bad Nick going into the playoffs.

If they could have gotten Hurts in the 4th, that's different

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think it’s a factor of getting in his head towards being gunshy after taking a bunch of hits to start this season. I’ll give you that without question.

He's not gun shy-that is no excuse. He 1)MISSES wide open guys. 2)We go away from the run game so he has more throwing ops than usual 3) Staring down your targets helps out DB's SOOOO much,they just sit back and take the picks. Not buying this excuse number 87

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I wish comeone could explain to me why the Eagles seem to draft project players or players they don't expect to play much in the 1st 3 rounds.

To me these rounds should be for players they expect to make a contribution in year one

Reagor got hurt, Hurts contributed even when Wentz was a QB

1 hour ago, stine said:

  I do think the situation is better now. I do not hear about this issue now and it was all over the media a few years back....

IDK, we needed a shrink for AG. Why do you need a shrink to play a game you love and grew up with???? Are we driving players crazy???? Maybe we are lol. I know they are driving ME crazy

20 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

IMHO a stud LB would be a bigger difference maker

But we know thats not gonna happen if the current FO is in place.

Parsons was my very first "I want this guy" pick. If we moved to 4th ,5th we could have a shot. I don't see him falling from the top 5, but what would YOU do. You are picking 6th(our present spot) Parsons is there, Chase is there and so is Farley and Surtain(CB's). I have to rule Sewell out. he should go at 3,4 also. So for me 2 QB's and Sewell are "unavailable"(this will be a tough call they have to make) If you take Chase and Wentz CANNOT come back,that pick would be wasted. Hell he couldn't hit speed demon Reagor

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