3 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Nice try but i'm more stubborn than that.🙂

Good for you. Me too

21 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He's a run stuffer though, not so much someone to get to the QB. Plus our DL was actually really good this year, leads the league in sacks from the DL.

I see us picking up a DT. Maybe not round 1,but we need to get one. On my mock I have Togai with our last pick. I think he is better than he is getting credit for. He is a 3 tech DL, perfect for how we play

22 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I disagree. There are lots of vet QBs who could lead a team.  I love Foles but lets face it he could just as easily been bad Nick going into the playoffs.

If they could have gotten Hurts in the 4th, that's different

But you need to PAY those guys. A rook gets rook pay and maybe we didnt want Dullaz or the no names to grab him???? Sometimes it's not who you get,it's who you keep others from getting(this works well in fantasy also). One look at our cap situation and you can see paying a #2 QB was pretty much out of the question

BTW,in fantasy, I am filling up my trophy case again. Champ in every league lol

As many boos I would hear on draft day, I would really like to see us take Farley at CB, even if I had to pass up Chase and get my WR in round 2. In 2 I would opt for say Olave from Ohio state or Chase's teammate Terrance Marshall. I just can't draft a WR in 1 not knowing if I have a QB that can hit him(and we don't know that we have that right now) and those other 2 are plenty talented. My issue is round 3 because we have no 4th,so this pick is rather vital. Im stuck between Myers at C (to replace Kelce) or Jabril Cox at LB(if he is even there). BTW this is a HUGE call for me(letting Chase go), that goes against my O minded brain

32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Reagor got hurt, Hurts contributed even when Wentz was a QB

So you're saying they knew Wentz was gonna suck?

They suspected Wentz might suck?

Exacty where is the evidence because i don't see it anywhere. 

Now if the arguement is Wentz is injury prone that might have some validity but that wasn't the case this year.

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021colave.php   Be fine with this guy

3 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

So you're saying they knew Wentz was gonna suck?

They suspected Wentz might suck?

Exacty where is the evidence because i don't see it anywhere. 

Now if the arguement is Wentz is injury prone that might have some validity but that wasn't the case this year.

No, even if Wentz played well, there was still the injury issues he's had and we didn't have a real good #2 in the event we made the playoffs(see Foles). As I said before we were SUPPOSE to contend this year. The situation was SO bad we even hired McCown as an "emergency" QB remember?

https://dynastydraftroom.com/TerraceMarshall/

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No, even if Wentz played well, there was still the injury issues he's had and we didn't have a real good #2 in the event we made the playoffs(see Foles). As I said before we were SUPPOSED to contend this year. The situation was SO bad we even hired McCown as an "emergency" QB remember?

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					68	68	35-32-1	1562	2492	62.7	16811	113	4.5	50	2.0	855	73	6.7	6.8	10.8	247.2	89.2		179	1133	5.87	5.87	6.7	9	10	45
2016	24	PHI	QB	11	16	16	7-9-0	379	607	62.4	3782	16	2.6	14	2.3	192	73	6.2	5.7	10.0	236.4	79.3	49.4	33	213	5.58	5.09	5.2	1	1	10
2017*	25	PHI	QB	11	13	13	11-2-0	265	440	60.2	3296	33	7.5	7	1.6	161	72	7.5	8.3	12.4	253.5	101.9	77.2	28	162	6.70	7.43	6.0	1	1	14
2018	26	PHI	QB	11	11	11	5-6-0	279	401	69.6	3074	21	5.2	7	1.7	159	58	7.7	7.9	11.0	279.5	102.2	62.6	31	202	6.65	6.89	7.2	2	2	9
2019	27	PHI	QB	11	16	16	9-7-0	388	607	63.9	4039	27	4.4	7	1.2	213	53	6.7	7.0	10.4	252.4	93.1	64.8	37	230	5.91	6.26	5.7	2	4	12
2020	28	PHI	QB	11	12	12	3-8-1	251	437	57.4	2620	16	3.7	15	3.4	130	59	6.0	5.2	10.4	218.3	72.8	49.4	50	326	4.71	3.98	10.3	3	2

1 playoff game - full playoff gamelogs · 9 comebacks, 10 game-winning drives - full summary

 

Even disregarding the great 2017  i just don't see where anyone could predict Wentz being as bad as he has been this year based on past performance

11 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					68	68	35-32-1	1562	2492	62.7	16811	113	4.5	50	2.0	855	73	6.7	6.8	10.8	247.2	89.2		179	1133	5.87	5.87	6.7	9	10	45
2016	24	PHI	QB	11	16	16	7-9-0	379	607	62.4	3782	16	2.6	14	2.3	192	73	6.2	5.7	10.0	236.4	79.3	49.4	33	213	5.58	5.09	5.2	1	1	10
2017*	25	PHI	QB	11	13	13	11-2-0	265	440	60.2	3296	33	7.5	7	1.6	161	72	7.5	8.3	12.4	253.5	101.9	77.2	28	162	6.70	7.43	6.0	1	1	14
2018	26	PHI	QB	11	11	11	5-6-0	279	401	69.6	3074	21	5.2	7	1.7	159	58	7.7	7.9	11.0	279.5	102.2	62.6	31	202	6.65	6.89	7.2	2	2	9
2019	27	PHI	QB	11	16	16	9-7-0	388	607	63.9	4039	27	4.4	7	1.2	213	53	6.7	7.0	10.4	252.4	93.1	64.8	37	230	5.91	6.26	5.7	2	4	12
2020	28	PHI	QB	11	12	12	3-8-1	251	437	57.4	2620	16	3.7	15	3.4	130	59	6.0	5.2	10.4	218.3	72.8	49.4	50	326	4.71	3.98	10.3	3	2

1 playoff game - full playoff gamelogs · 9 comebacks, 10 game-winning drives - full summary

 

Even disregarding the great 2017  i just don't see where anyone could predict Wentz being as bad as he has been this year based on past performance

I don't think anyone predicted how major of a decline this was. yeah we lost guys to injury. Ped didn't help Wentz by changing the plays for him(like roll outs and such) OR Wentz was changing the plays at the line. We let Hurts play some snaps to give him a little experience in the event Wentz got hurt at playoff time. I guess they didn't see Suds as a viable guy to take us home if we got that far. Of course that point is moot now. I think Hurts was drafted as a CYA in the event Wentz went down even if he was playing lights out,but I don;t believe for a second, they were expecting him to have to start THIS year. Hard for me to judge because we never see Suds. And lets face it,after 5 years,if he can't win the #2 job,do we really need him? There is a late QB UDFA I know we like(grapevine stuff) Zac Thomas from Appalachian State. I would not shock me if we grabbed him and let Suds go to save money.

Going to be a fun off-season... Start with what happens with Doug(my guess he stays) but could be tossed a curve never know. Howie isn’t going anywhere.

Next you have the QB issue honestly don’t view keeping both guys as a great option pick one and move forward with him trade the other.

Then we get to hit the draft where we will have a top 10 pick and can go a number of directions from OL to DB basically every position should be on our board. Really whoever we have graded the highest Chase, Parsons, Sewell, Farley, Surtain etc. lots of possible options

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Going to be a fun off-season... Start with what happens with Doug(my guess he stays) but could be tossed a curve never know. Howie isn’t going anywhere.

Next you have the QB issue honestly don’t view keeping both guys as a great option pick one and move forward with him trade the other.

Then we get to hit the draft where we will have a top 10 pick and can go a number of directions from OL to DB basically every position should be on our board. Really whoever we have graded the highest Chase, Parsons, Sewell, Farley, Surtain etc. lots of possible options

I want to know WHO made the decision to fire Groh. I don't think that was Ped. If you aren't going to let the coach build his staff they way he wants, it's not going to work well

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Going to be a fun off-season... Start with what happens with Doug(my guess he stays) but could be tossed a curve never know. Howie isn’t going anywhere.

Next you have the QB issue honestly don’t view keeping both guys as a great option pick one and move forward with him trade the other.

Then we get to hit the draft where we will have a top 10 pick and can go a number of directions from OL to DB basically every position should be on our board. Really whoever we have graded the highest Chase, Parsons, Sewell, Farley, Surtain etc. lots of possible options

I have Farley as my round 1 pick, WR in round 2

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I want to know WHO made the decision to fire Groh. I don't think that was Ped. If you aren't going to let the coach build his staff they way he wants, it's not going to work well

Lurie/Howie only people with more power then Doug would be those two guys. But there has always been a weird structure in terms of our coaching staff honestly seems like Schwartz has more control on who gets hired on his side then Doug 

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Going to be a fun off-season... Start with what happens with Doug(my guess he stays) but could be tossed a curve never know. Howie isn’t going anywhere.

Next you have the QB issue honestly don’t view keeping both guys as a great option pick one and move forward with him trade the other.

Then we get to hit the draft where we will have a top 10 pick and can go a number of directions from OL to DB basically every position should be on our board. Really whoever we have graded the highest Chase, Parsons, Sewell, Farley, Surtain etc. lots of possible options

I see us keeping both Wentz and Hurts, taking Zac Thomas with a UDFA pick-up and letting Suds walk

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lurie/Howie only people with more power then Doug would be those two guys. But there has always been a weird structure in terms of our coaching staff honestly seems like Schwartz has more control on who gets hired on his side then Doug 

Yeah, why I keep saying I want the Howie deal split up and hire a REAL GM. A guy who can nail drafts and let Doug pick his staffers

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have Farley as my round 1 pick, WR in round 2

If I had the choice I’d lean Parsons but not my call and unlikely we would draft a LB that high... Then I’d swing for a CB in the 2nd round. 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah, why I keep saying I want the Howie deal split up and hire a REAL GM. A guy who can nail drafts and let Doug pick his staffers

My thinking is it was a Lurie call to fire Groh and Howie just doing as he was told in that regard. But Lurie has no intention of letting Howie go so that won’t happen.... Did hire Dorsey I believe to aid Howie soooo maybe that helps us lol 

Though I was fine with Groh being fired didn’t like him as OC still believe Doug would be more aided by an experienced OC Caldwell would be fantastic in my mind but unlikely with Doug wanting to keep play calling 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If I had the choice I’d lean Parsons but not my call and unlikely we would draft a LB that high... Then I’d swing for a CB in the 2nd round. 

Have my mock in good shape, my issue now is round 3 . I like everyone else where i have them

Here's what I have(with round 3 open) 1-6- Caleb Farley-CB VT  2-37- Chris Olave-WR-Ohio st 3-70(TBD) 5-134-Jamir White-RB-Georgia 5-139-Jimmy Morrissey-C- Pitt(replacement for Kelce) 6-165 Micah McFadden-ILB-Indiana 7-198- Tommy Togai- DL 3 tech- Ohio st   UDFA- Zac Thomas-QB App. St

15 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If I had the choice I’d lean Parsons but not my call and unlikely we would draft a LB that high... Then I’d swing for a CB in the 2nd round. 

I'd be shocked if Parsons is still there.

Even more shocked if we took him

So IDK,maybe a S in round 3?????

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

I'd be shocked if Parsons is still there.

Even more shocked if we took him

He's a "homer" so maybe that changes history lol

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So IDK,maybe a S in round 3?????

I like what we have at S honestly I like Wallace think he will be pretty good.... I’d look at a DL(DL is old)... Possibly TE if we traded Ertz  in the off-season 

In 3 looking at A) a safety B) a ROG C) Another CB D)another LB thoughts?(see my mock first)

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I like what we have at S honestly I like Wallace think he will be pretty good.... I’d look at a DL(DL is old)... Possibly TE if we traded Ertz  in the off-season 

Yeah a TE could work in 3 also. Nice heads up