1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Pity,those young men need people who can coach lol. But  it's a nice consolation prize for mismanaging your team all season 

We have some pretty good coaches even if you don’t like Doug... guys like Duce, Stout, Flajore(LB coach) think our S coach has done well also 

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Comes with the territory of an aggressive coach we only complain about it when it doesn’t work... When it works we praise him lol 

I don't If it's a bad call I don't even care that it worked. There are situations you go and those you don't and he can't tell the difference

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I got so many questions going forward with this team #6 could be tough...

LT- how much faith does the staff have in Mailata/Dillard??? If the top T fell to us would we take him???

QB- What happens with Wentz??? How do we feel about Hurts???? Could QB really be an option for us again???

LB- Parsons could be sitting there for us I think he could anchor our D for the next decade but we don’t draft LB high usually but can’t deny his talent.

WR- few guys but Chase is the big name I like our young WR could could always look to improve. 
 

CB- think there are two guys I’ve heard highly on Surtain and Farley I believe clearly we need a #2 CB to pair with Slay(and hopefully take over as CB #1)

Moving back from 6 would not be the end of the world. Depends who goes. Doubt we would take the OT. We still don't know that we have there in Dillard. Doubt he makes it out of the top 5,but stranger things have happened. In that event Dillard could be traded I suppose. I would like to keep working on Mailata,but drafting Sewell would kill any chances of him starting for us,at least as a LOT. LB-true,but there are still good LB's later. not a terrible class this time. I like DeVonta Smith better than Chase, but like I said,I think we wait until 2. plenty of nice WR's there and face it,we pass the ball around. It's not like we have the Manning/Harrison connection. As Reagor grows,he could become a nice weapon and I would like to add another. I like Olave from Ohio state,or Chase teammate Terrance Marshall. If you waited even longer,there are still late guys like Nico Collins from Michigan. I'd like to see Suds go away(finally) and at least pick up Zac Thomas as a UDFA #3. He could have done better last night than Suds without ever having played an NFL snap.That was HORRIBLE. If we traded Wentz for another 1 pick,IDK what we would do on the QB front. I could not rule that out. But Hurts looks ok to me. Needs a better Oline,same as Wentz did,but he plays smarter than Wentz,so IDK if adding another rook QB would help.Going to be maybe the most interesting draft in my lifetime for us since we are such a train wreck. There is the "big meeting" tomorrow in Luries office.We will know more after that I suspect 

IF we got that 14 pick from the Pats(theory) I would snag Smith at 6,then pick up Mac Jones at 14 and voila,we have an instant chemistry with the Bama QB and his top target, just need to work Reagor and the others into that. IDK though Hurts looks like he will be good as he grows,so I wouldn't want to mess that up. I said before "this all hinges on Wentz". but we are past that point now, just need to get out the best way we can. Ertz can be traded also. I don't want players that don't want to play here. Maybe we can trade Ertz to Dullaz for Vander-Esch (HAHAHA JK!!!!!) We can go any direction now . It's sad we are in that position of where there is no set pathway forward. The decisions we make now will affect this team for 5 years. I hope we get at least SOME if it right

I watched that BU QB Wolford (AAF). He looks good IMO. If they wanted to part with him, there's my #2

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/who-is-john-wolford-a-look-at-the-quarterback-rams-are-pinning-their-playoff-hopes-on-in-week-17/       I pry this guy away lol

42 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Moving back from 6 would not be the end of the world.

Usually not against moving back but sitting at 6 and our track record with drafting rather just take the best player feel as though we have a way better chance at landing a stud at 6 over say 13... Thought sitting at 6 could stay in the top 10 and let a team like Denver at 9 come up for a QB Detroit could be in play one spot below us if they fear a team like Denver is trying to jump ahead of them. 

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Usually not against moving back but sitting at 6 and our track record with drafting rather just take the best player feel as though we have a way better chance at landing a stud at 6 over say 13... Thought sitting at 6 could stay in the top 10 and let a team like Denver at 9 come up for a QB Detroit could be in play one spot below us if they fear a team like Denver is trying to jump ahead of them. 

IDK,we can't develop the guys we get no matter where we pick and we ruin the talents of others,then ship them off to REAL coaches who make players out of them. This is a Fktastrope and I'm exhaustipated with them all

I like Duce. he does fine with what little we give him (like we do/did with Schwartz). We got Sanders fortuntely, otherwise we give Duce ZIP except for UDFA's and we expect miracles from him. He is wasting his talents here, would not shock me at all if he went somewhere else

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

like Duce. he does fine with what little we give him

I mean Duce has been given RBs over his span here even under Doug.... I mean Blount, Ajayi, Sproles, Sanders, Howard, Scott(is a good back) 

29 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean Duce has been given RBs over his span here even under Doug.... I mean Blount, Ajayi, Sproles, Sanders, Howard, Scott(is a good back) 

And of those which ones did we DRAFT?? So we gave him "proven commodities" until, Sanders. Now if he can make Scott look good, what would he accomplish with you know a top- 3 RB draftee? Why not give him alot of RB's. We can trade those for other spots,but nah lets ignore the talent we have on our staff(this is a sad misuse of an awesome coach)

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I got so many questions going forward with this team #6 could be tough...

LT- how much faith does the staff have in Mailata/Dillard??? If the top T fell to us would we take him???

QB- What happens with Wentz??? How do we feel about Hurts???? Could QB really be an option for us again???

LB- Parsons could be sitting there for us I think he could anchor our D for the next decade but we don’t draft LB high usually but can’t deny his talent.

WR- few guys but Chase is the big name I like our young WR could could always look to improve. 
 

CB- think there are two guys I’ve heard highly on Surtain and Farley I believe clearly we need a #2 CB to pair with Slay(and hopefully take over as CB #1)

Tackle:  I don’t think we get the top guy. But once this combine and process goes through I think there are two other guys that will emerge worthy. 
  QB: I don’t see us being able to get the top two QBs. No other seems worthy. Second round Trask? Maybe.

 LB: bunch of question marks. Singleton definitely balled out. Edwards can play. Riley has some uses. All can play great ST. Who is the new DC? Does he maybe have a guy or two that have played for him that come on the cheap? I’m looking for bargain basement here.

  

  WR: Chase would upgrade the unit and turn it into a strength of the team. Still got Ward. He’s still pretty young. He’s reliable. Got Reagor. He’s deep strike ready. Showed he can make a play with the ball in his hands. Fulgham. They seemed to figure him out a little. He just needs to grow and adapt. Hightower. He got early work week one going. He showed some good things to build from. Quez Watkins really turned it on to end the year. He’s ready to be unleashed now. Then we saw JJaW using his body to shield off defenders. He’s a willing quality blocker as well.

CB: in play and I agree...those are the top two. I do like the Clemson CB. Some have him judged as early second round.

Dline: you didn’t mention but it’s between the Michigan kid or the kid from The U that has some freakish length and physical attributes.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tackle:  I don’t think we get the top guy. But once this combine and process goes through I think there are two other guys that will emerge worthy. 
  QB: I don’t see us being able to get the top two QBs. No other seems worthy. Second round Trask? Maybe.

 LB: bunch of question marks. Singleton definitely balled out. Edwards can play. Riley has some uses. All can play great ST. Who is the new DC? Does he maybe have a guy or two that have played for him that come on the cheap? I’m looking for bargain basement here.

  

  WR: Chase would upgrade the unit and turn it into a strength of the team. Still got Ward. He’s still pretty young. He’s reliable. Got Reagor. He’s deep strike ready. Showed he can make a play with the ball in his hands. Fulgham. They seemed to figure him out a little. He just needs to grow and adapt. Hightower. He got early work week one going. He showed some good things to build from. Quez Watkins really turned it on to end the year. He’s ready to be unleashed now. Then we saw JJaW using his body to shield off defenders. He’s a willing quality blocker as well.

CB: in play and I agree...those are the top two. I do like the Clemson CB. Some have him judged as early second round.

Dline: you didn’t mention but it’s between the Michigan kid or the kid from The U that has some freakish length and physical attributes.

Chase overhyped. You can get just as good a WR in round 2. I'm not wasting a 1 pick, maybe you would. Can name 50 guys that are good,the trick is doing a mock of all rounds and covering what you need at the point they are gettable lol. Which tackle are you replacing?

BTW won't matter which WR we get where if Hurts is running for his life. Those deep balls take time to develop

I’d look into interviewing Kris Richard and Gus Bradley. My top guy would be John Fox 🦊 🦊 

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW won't matter which WR we get where if Hurts is running for his life. Those deep balls take time to develop

I think we will see much better oline play next year because we had some young guys get valuable experience this year.

Going into this season, we only had 7 linemen with experience - Peters, Lane, Brooks, Seumalo, Dillard, Kelce and Pryor. All of them except Kelce and Pryor missed time due to injury. We ended up playing five linemen who were completely new to the game.

Going into next season, even if Kelce retires, we have Dillard, Mailata, Driscoll, Lane, Toth and Pryor who have experience at tackle, and Seumalo, Brooks, Opeta and Herbig who have experience at guard. So that's 10 guys already who have significant game experience. Plus Juriga and Ross who are potential center replacements.

Plus, almost all our experienced guys this season were vets over 30, who were more likely to get injured. This coming season, it is likely that only Lane and Brooks will be in that category, and we have experienced guys ready to replace them.

So I think it is pretty easy to see how our oline play will be much better next year. This year we went through a lot of growing pains, but next year I think we will reap the rewards.

3 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I think we will see much better oline play next year because we had some young guys get valuable experience this year.

Going into this season, we only had 7 linemen with experience - Peters, Lane, Brooks, Seumalo, Dillard, Kelce and Pryor. All of them except Kelce and Pryor missed time due to injury. We ended up playing five linemen who were completely new to the game.

Going into next season, even if Kelce retires, we have Dillard, Mailata, Driscoll, Lane, Toth and Pryor who have experience at tackle, and Seumalo, Brooks, Opeta and Herbig who have experience at guard. So that's 10 guys already who have significant game experience. Plus Juriga and Ross who are potential center replacements.

Plus, almost all our experienced guys this season were vets over 30, who were more likely to get injured. This coming season, it is likely that only Lane and Brooks will be in that category, and we have experienced guys ready to replace them.

So I think it is pretty easy to see how our oline play will be much better next year. This year we went through a lot of growing pains, but next year I think we will reap the rewards.

Agree with this,but the key is keeping the same guys in the same places and we can't do it. We had 14 different combinations on the O line. IDK any QB that can deal well with that. I still want to add youth, so I have an OG in round 3 because I would like one spot locked in, let the rest compete as BU's. and say what you want about the BU C's. I don't see any as the studs we need to anchor the line,so I am drafting one with an actual draft pick,not scraping up UDFA's and making OG's BU centers. I want a guy that's an actual center who can be counted on 5 years from now. Experience is great,until you reach your ceiling. I want better TALENT

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Agree with this,but the key is keeping the same guys in the same places and we can't do it. We had 14 different combinations on the O line. IDK any QB that can deal well with that. I still want to add youth, so I have an OG in round 3 because I would like one spot locked in, let the rest compete as BU's. and say what you want about the BU C's. I don't see any as the studs we need to anchor the line,so I am drafting one with an actual draft pick,not scraping up UDFA's and making OG's BU centers. I want a guy that's an actual center who can be counted on 5 years from now. Experience is great,until you reach your ceiling. I want better TALENT

They really like Juriga, and he fits what they want as a center, namely a quicker guy who can get to the second level.

I think you will see the line come together pretty quickly. They know Brooks and Lane are locked in at their spots. Seumalo is going to play guard or center. Mailata or Dillard is going to play LT. The only question is whether or not Kelce retires, and if he does, who takes his place. Then the rest of the guys filter in.

The nice thing is that we know Herbig will be fine as a starter or if Brooks gets hurt. We know Driscoll will be fine at RT for Lane. We know Mailata can play at a high level.  We didn't know any of these things going into the season, which is why we are in a much better position going into next year.

Also, Herbig was one of the top rated guards in football over the final four weeks of the season. A third round guard is highly unlikely to be better than him right away.

 

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And of those which ones did we DRAFT?? So we gave him "proven commodities" until, Sanders. Now if he can make Scott look good, what would he accomplish with you know a top- 3 RB draftee? Why not give him alot of RB's. We can trade those for other spots,but nah lets ignore the talent we have on our staff(this is a sad misuse of an awesome coach)

I mean why do we have to draft a guy to give someone talent lol.  That is something the Eagles have done well overall is getting good RBs.

The worst stretch we had was when Chipper traded away Shady.

Before that we had Duce, Westy, Shady... Then a decent group of finds in 2017 in Blount and Ajayi along with Sproles... then 2019 got Sanders.

Plus some Of the best RBs in football weren’t top 5 picks hell weren’t even first rounders.

Derrick Henry round 2 

Nick Chubb round 2 

Dalvin Cook round 2 

Kamara round 3 

Hunt round 3 

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tackle:  I don’t think we get the top guy. But once this combine and process goes through I think there are two other guys that will emerge worthy. 
  QB: I don’t see us being able to get the top two QBs. No other seems worthy. Second round Trask? Maybe.

 LB: bunch of question marks. Singleton definitely balled out. Edwards can play. Riley has some uses. All can play great ST. Who is the new DC? Does he maybe have a guy or two that have played for him that come on the cheap? I’m looking for bargain basement here.

  

  WR: Chase would upgrade the unit and turn it into a strength of the team. Still got Ward. He’s still pretty young. He’s reliable. Got Reagor. He’s deep strike ready. Showed he can make a play with the ball in his hands. Fulgham. They seemed to figure him out a little. He just needs to grow and adapt. Hightower. He got early work week one going. He showed some good things to build from. Quez Watkins really turned it on to end the year. He’s ready to be unleashed now. Then we saw JJaW using his body to shield off defenders. He’s a willing quality blocker as well.

CB: in play and I agree...those are the top two. I do like the Clemson CB. Some have him judged as early second round.

Dline: you didn’t mention but it’s between the Michigan kid or the kid from The U that has some freakish length and physical attributes.

Starting from the top.

OL/QB- kinda go hand and hand no clue how the draft will go but I’d the top T is off the board(seen lot saying he could go #2) that could leave the #2 to fall and after the Jets no team is guaranteed to draft a QB only possible team would be ATL. So top 2 QB is possible to us at 6 not saying I’d take them but not out the realm of possibility he could be in play.

LB- Parsons to me likely going to be the best player on the board at 6 that’s the most realistic hence he is my pick plus as stated we need help. Think Singleton is alright worthy starter think Edwards is limited at best a 2 down LB would rather reduce his role. The other guys should want to upgrade 

WR- there are a few names not on the top of my list but I could understand why we might draft one 

DL- it’s not in my list mainly because I haven’t completely looked into this draft but nobody really stands out to me as a guy we should take at 6 

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d look into interviewing Kris Richard and Gus Bradley. My top guy would be John Fox 🦊 🦊 

Got a soft spot for Gus would make Omar sense since the D that has given us the most issues over the years is Seattle though Gus D is similar style to that.

Meh not impressed with Richard but is what it is. 
Fox is a great DC can’t complain if we landed him 

I’m still mostly intrigued by Demeco Ryan’s though something about the chance to get a young up and comer 

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean why do we have to draft a guy to give someone talent lol.  That is something the Eagles have done well overall is getting good RBs.

The worst stretch we had was when Chipper traded away Shady.

Before that we had Duce, Westy, Shady... Then a decent group of finds in 2017 in Blount and Ajayi along with Sproles... then 2019 got Sanders.

Plus some Of the best RBs in football weren’t top 5 picks hell weren’t even first rounders.

Derrick Henry round 2 

Nick Chubb round 2 

Dalvin Cook round 2 

Kamara round 3 

Hunt round 3 

LOL,so why we do we hand Duce UDFA's. Why not get a round 2 like above? Point is we have a coach who can get them to play.yet we are too stupid to see it and have to go out and grab FA's when we can do this IN HOUSE. We're getting good RB's from OTHERS, that is not developing talent that is BUYING talent. So why the hell did we bring Howard back in if we had no plans to use him? Just stupid moves after stupid moves. It's mind boggling

29 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

They really like Juriga, and he fits what they want as a center, namely a quicker guy who can get to the second level.

I think you will see the line come together pretty quickly. They know Brooks and Lane are locked in at their spots. Seumalo is going to play guard or center. Mailata or Dillard is going to play LT. The only question is whether or not Kelce retires, and if he does, who takes his place. Then the rest of the guys filter in.

The nice thing is that we know Herbig will be fine as a starter or if Brooks gets hurt. We know Driscoll will be fine at RT for Lane. We know Mailata can play at a high level.  We didn't know any of these things going into the season, which is why we are in a much better position going into next year.

Also, Herbig was one of the top rated guards in football over the final four weeks of the season. A third round guard is highly unlikely to be better than him right away.

 

We do this alot "oh that position is set".Then they go down and we scramble around and pay people we shouldn't if we simply kept the youth coming in. If you have things set,you don't have 14 different o line combinations. Thats insanity

https://247sports.com/ContentGallery/2021-NFL-Mock-Draft-145681526/#145681526_4     While this isnt the bible I need to say "Whooops got it right yet again!!!!!" Smith over Chase as I have been saying all along (HAHAHAHAHA----------------see I tell you haters and you don't believe me) Had JJ and Hightower for us last year(but we went Reagor which thrilled the Vikes war room to no end). IDK if we go WR in round 1,just thought this was .interesting. Now if we can finagle the 15 from the Pats,for Wentz, then I take Mac Jones(Smith's QB).That is instant chemistry we would already have. Maybe he's better than Hurts, maybe Hurts is better,but in any case you have your 1,2 QB and also as i said adding Zac Thomas as a UDFA QB gives you your #3. Wentz and Suds are outta here-DONE. Next problem

Well fellow birdbrains see you in a few days.

Off to get a knee replaced. Damn football.