That the favorable thing of a rookie QB you generally have cap to spend elsewhere you can have that extra depth you can have more top tier players across the team. When it’s all spent at 1 position like QB well yea...

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Unless we win a SB yes I care because say we go 10-6 lose in the playoffs how huge of a difference could that 35m be if it was spent on other positions... When your spending over a 3rd of your cap on 1 spot your going to have drastic holes elsewhere 

I said TRADING HIM is the best/ preferred thing.If we make out first 3 picks right,we won;t need to "spend on other players"

If you'd look at my last mock you can change 1,2 rounds, stick with the others and we would be fine(IMO). Grabbng who I laid out means we could really help this team without going to FA much. And if Wentz is a nitwit,we may have no choice

1-6 Patrick Surtain-CB- Bama   2-38-Chris Olave-WR-Ohio st  3-70- Deonte Brown-OG- Bama 5-134-Zamir white-RB- Georgia 5-140- Jimmy Morrissey-C-Pitt 6-165- Micha McFadden-ILB-Indiana 7- Tommy Togai- DL3 tech-Ohio st UDFA Zac Thomas QB- App. st.     So, lets work with this.              Say Fields is there in 1, Olave in 2(instant chemistry). Now you can take my round 3 pick OR pick up a still decent CB, then proceed with the rest as shown. Now you would have Fields,Hurts,Thomas-all 3 on rook pay and Suds goes away

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I said TRADING HIM is the best/ preferred thing.If we make out first 3 picks right,we won;t need to "spend on other players"

You can always spend on other players.... And you trusting that we hit on those players lol....35m is a ton of cap to be able to spend else where and that on ONE GUY!!!! 

What your not understanding is Wentz has to be dealt no matter what if he isn’t starting he should not be here at all if it’s to be a backup 

Also,if Ertz goes away that would free up some loot as well

And what if he's not dealt??? Do you now say OH we gotta let Fields go? I think that would be a very stupid thing to do. And I'm also saying if we took Fields he would pretty much HAVE to work with us to trade him(theres the leverage) if he wants to play. if he is content riding pine for big bucks,NO team will take him when we cut him since it's ALREADY EVIDENT he is not starting(and also would NOT be starting in 2021)

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Also,if Ertz goes away that would free up some loot as well

Cutting or trading Ertz with a post June 1 designation would result in $8.3M in cap savings (with $4.2M in dead money against the cap).  Pre June 1 those numbers are almost reversed ($4.7M savings, $7.8M dead money).  Either way, I can't see Ertz here in 2021.  They need to pay Goedert and with our cap situation, simply cannot afford to pay 2 TEs.  Get what you can for Ertz now.  

In my estimation,there are 5 QB's worthy of a round 1 pick,there are 5 teams that may go QB, the last being the Pats at pick15( which is I why I targeted them as a possble trade partner for Wentz, if they felt Wentz was a better option than the #5 draftee QB). I could also see us(in this scenario) taking Fields, trading Wentz to the Pats for Cam and loot(reducing the cost of the hit we take). Then letting those 3 fight for the job(Cam,Fields,Hurts) Suds is gone,so we save that little bit as well

So, I posted that initial list because it happened many times that Fields was there. Of course this is based on somones OPINION of how teams would draft. I just wanted to toss out that the possibility was there., so my next question is if Fields is NOT there, what would you do(who do you take?). I think Sewell is a LOCK for Miami and they would be stupid not to grab him

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d probably be thinking about trading Lane. He should have good trade value even though he’s been suffering this same injury for two seasons. Obviously maybe some Gms skeptical on his health. You’d have Mailata who looks to be a swing T. Dillard backing up LT. Driscoll battling Mailata for the starting job.

Well now ya done it,you got me thinking again(this really needs to stop HAHAHA) IDK, I would still TRY Dillard at ROT. Can't be much worse than putting Mailiata there.If nothing,then at least you know you tried it

The Fields scenario is interesting, esp if rumours of Wentz wanting to facilitate are true. Not that drafting a QB w/ our 1st pick is the wisest move. There's always draft and trade or camp competition and trade capital later for the one who loses. Not a lot of FO/coaching prospects which needs done 1st 

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Unless we win a SB yes I care because say we go 10-6 lose in the playoffs how huge of a difference could that 35m be if it was spent on other positions... When your spending over a 3rd of your cap on 1 spot your going to have drastic holes elsewhere 

We are stuck whether we trade him or not. 34 mil is not a huge deal if he works out his issues. You are making it sound like no other NFL clubs are spending that amount of cash on their QB. Detroit paying Stafford 33 Mil, GB paying Rodgers 37 mil, Atlanta is paying Ryan 40 mil and Pittsburgh is paying Big Ben 41 Mil... There are others....

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You can always spend on other players.... And you trusting that we hit on those players lol....35m is a ton of cap to be able to spend else where and that on ONE GUY!!!! 

What your not understanding is Wentz has to be dealt no matter what if he isn’t starting he should not be here at all if it’s to be a backup 

  Why are you continuing to say we can use that money elsewhere when we won't be able to! That Dead money will not magically appear if you trade Wentz. We have to pay it whether he stays or goes. period. Only possible options is if Wentz gives us 30 Mil back.... Then we have 30 mil to spend. Like that is going to happen!!

Please read this. It will explain why we have to eat that money no matter what the Eagles do....

 

https://overthecap.com/the-eagles-options-with-carson-wentz/

 

 

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

1-6 Patrick Surtain-CB- Bama   2-38-Chris Olave-WR-Ohio st  3-70- Deonte Brown-OG- Bama 5-134-Zamir white-RB- Georgia 5-140- Jimmy Morrissey-C-Pitt 6-165- Micha McFadden-ILB-Indiana 7- Tommy Togai- DL3 tech-Ohio st UDFA Zac Thomas QB- App. st.     So, lets work with this.              Say Fields is there in 1, Olave in 2(instant chemistry). Now you can take my round 3 pick OR pick up a still decent CB, then proceed with the rest as shown. Now you would have Fields,Hurts,Thomas-all 3 on rook pay and Suds goes away

  I am not sold that a CB is worth taking that high. Surtain is solid but he would have issues covering a speedster like Hill. I would think if you were drafting a CB that high, he should be able to handle any NFL WR. Just my opinion which is not worth allot now a days

Thanks for those Stine.

Something not mentioned in the Wentz trade scenario is we could also get a player and require that team to eat part of that salary. Just another of the many scenarios / permutations that could happen. Part of me hopes Wentz snaps out of it and fights for his job here while Hurts develops. I'm not in the locker room or DP's office, so really don't know how much of the rumours are true. New coaching may help. No matter who starts we're allocating a certain amount of money to the position no matter who wins it. 

42 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Thanks for those Stine.

Something not mentioned in the Wentz trade scenario is we could also get a player and require that team to eat part of that salary. Just another of the many scenarios / permutations that could happen. Part of me hopes Wentz snaps out of it and fights for his job here while Hurts develops. I'm not in the locker room or DP's office, so really don't know how much of the rumours are true. New coaching may help. No matter who starts we're allocating a certain amount of money to the position no matter who wins it. 

I tell you a trade that could, could, happen... Wentz + #6 for #2. Hell maybe even add Ertz.

13 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I tell you a trade that could, could, happen... Wentz + #6 for #2. Hell maybe even add Ertz.

You really want to give up that much to land OT Sewell? Cause I know your not suggesting we draft that loser QB from the college that has never produced a single productive QB in the NFL ever? 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

You really want to give up that much to land OT Sewell? Cause I know your not suggesting we draft that loser QB from the college that has never produced a single productive QB in the NFL ever? 

I am suggesting that. We have a QB problem so if the Eagles like that loser that much they should get him. 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I am suggesting that. We have a QB problem so if the Eagles like that loser that much they should get him. 

So draft a QB that will put u back another 3-4 years? Dude is going to be a bust like every other Ohio State QB in the NFL. Maybe he can play WR after he doesnt work out as a QB. 

1 minute ago, DeathByEagle said:

So draft a QB that will put u back another 3-4 years? Dude is going to be a bust like every other Ohio State QB in the NFL. Maybe he can play WR after he doesnt work out as a QB. 

And that's fine that's your opinion. What would you do out of interest?

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I tell you a trade that could, could, happen... Wentz + #6 for #2. Hell maybe even add Ertz.

Good god no man.  We need to add as many young talented prospects to this team as possible, preferably from the higher rounds.  Use pick 6 to hopefully add an elite player then should we trade both Wentz and Ertz, use those picks to add 2 more players.  Using all 3 on a single player is ridiculous.  

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And that's fine that's your opinion. What would you do out of interest?

I would have fired Doug, bring in a real HC that can create a productive offense and give Wentz a year with that real OC. 

At #6 Im taking the best player avail which could be WR Smith or CB Surtain. If Sewell slips past #3, could try and move up to get that type of talent. After Lawerance there is no first round QBs on my board. So unless they are going to go get the top dog, QB is not even a consideration. Only 2 players I would trade up for would be Lawerance or Sewell. No one else is worth it.

If they pick at 6, and the pick isn't Smith, Chase, or Surtain, then this draft is an instant failure in my opinion.  I'd argue Surtain isn't worth that spot, considering the track record of corners drafted in the top 10 (minus Ramsey).