1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Soooo basically Howie is being judge that he can’t draft WRs because Jmatt was good here then we got rid of him and Huff was a bust(though Chipper clearly wanted him)

JJaw bad first year needs to show something but no clue if he was a bad pick or not yet.

I can’t say in good faith Howie can’t draft WRs because I don’t know yet he not good at finding guys late at WR but really would be interested in seeing how many day 3 picks at WR actually pan out for every AB how many are busts...

 

Hard to know what he would have done the Chip years.I will re-state it this way.We need SOMEONE who knows WR talent and WHEN we need to move up to take them,better? 

2 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Welcome to the board! I'll take one of those beers please.

Me 3

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I do,he is playing vs others who are slower than the top guys,so he would look faster.I will wait and see what happens.

Speed doesn’t lie Reagor clocked in running over 20 mph only college player that ran faster then him Ruggs lmao 

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

not every player is good at running a 40 yard dash

I thought thats why we drafted him? his Speed?? Or is it just when he feels like it?.I will chalk it up to a "bad day",still it's concerning to me.Add in his 13.9% drop rate and we have another Nelly lol

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Speed doesn’t lie Reagor clocked in running over 20 mph only college player that ran faster then him Ruggs lmao 

I will wait and see as I said if he can do it consistently

8 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Speed doesn’t lie Reagor clocked in running over 20 mph only college player that ran faster then him Ruggs lmao 

Then by god we should have moved up for Ruggs if speed was the only attribute needed

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then by god we should have moved up for Ruggs if speed was the only attribute needed

You can teach players to catch but can’t coach speed. Either have it or you don’t 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dallas lost Byron Jones but receive the third round comp pick for him. Actually loaded up with one comp pick from each round as the team expected to receive the most compensatory compensation. Most all you talked about with us last offseason. They lost Cobb that you identified as overpaid. Got the top WR in the draft. Without trading up mind you. The Andy Dalton part shows your agenda. He gets three million. Just a bit more for a starting QB(experience wise at the least)than we paid Suds ...the forever third stringer.

 Eagles: we had a weakness for missing speed. We addressed it with older Wallace. Got hurt. Did nothing. The next season we trade for the older DJax. Got hurt did nothing. Then addressed it three years after the fact.

 Eagles: addressed the need at DT with an older Malik. Got hurt. Did nothing. Now banking industry year two with him. But spent big bucks on The Gravedigger. So tried to cover up the mistake a year later. 
  Eagles: had a need for good corners. Made mistake after mistake. Draft, Free Agency....even in keeping Darby after trading for him and him hitting FA. Been going on for years. Had a chance to address it by trade for Slay last year. Could of been a huge difference maker. Got cheap and saved a nickel by trading for him this year instead. Loaded up on slot guys otherwise.

  The logic in success between us and the Cowboys is coaching. Pedey is much better than Coach Clap.  You are pointing towards all this GM crap. But Jerry has been the better GM recently. They trade for Amari and all you do is pine after him. We lost out on him for being cheap. Got Tate instead. Woohoo! Draft Jerry has been out picking Rosie. They have more cap room and flexibility also. We aren’t out GMing them. We are out coaching and culturing them. Big difference than the point you be appearing to make.

It's funny... when I specifically bring up one thing.. like one offseason.  So it's easy for the rest of the world to look at comparison. You have to alter the criteria. 

The idea is Dallas won the offseason.  They dominated it. Jerry schooled Howie.  Jerry is the man.  It's this draft that will put Dallas over the top this year.  They are the better team than the Eagles now.   They weren't last year... but they are now due to their offseason moves... which I gave ...one by one.  This in comparison to their team last year. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is the Water is Wet post of the week. Congrats!

Sometimes people need to be reminded that water is wet.

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You can teach players to catch but can’t coach speed. Either have it or you don’t 

So in the best interest of the team we should have moved for Ruggs.He is faster with better hands

Interesting.  JJAW on with an interview with a Spanish station... said he had to be helped to the bathroom during the season.  As in reference he couldn't walk.  Foot injury on report the week before GB game... wonder how that played out during the season?

Is it an excuse....IDK.   

45 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Welcome to the board! I'll take one of those beers please.

AAAHHHHH you just reminded me I have beer in the fridge

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No the facts are JJ has 2 years of stats to Reagors 3.Those are the facts.I'm not starting this BS again

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The facts are Jefferson benefited from the best offense in the history of college football and a number one overall draft pick QB. That offense produced stats all over the place. Sure got their OC a nice cushy NFL upgrade also.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Ummmmm what or he just ran a bad 40 at the combine lol not every player is good at running a 40 yard dash.... Game speed is what matter most and watching his tape you don’t have any doubts on the mans speed 

The film don’t lie! Dude has wheels!

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

JJ didnt play in his fresh or soph year(well he played 3 games I think lol) .Please state the facts as they really are,not spin them into what you believe

You’re wrong. Jefferson played outside his Sophomore year. Moved inside to the slot his Junior year. Declared for the draft after that. Those ARE the facts.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I do,he is playing vs others who are slower than the top guys,so he would look faster.I will wait and see what happens.

But you wanted a WR that couldn’t outrun S

43 minutes ago, matchew88 said:

AAAHHHHH you just reminded me I have beer in the fridge

Well grab us some

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The facts are Jefferson benefited from the best offense in the history of college football and a number one overall draft pick QB. That offense produced stats all over the place. Sure got their OC a nice cushy NFL upgrade also.

Lmao how can he benefit the 2 years he didn't play when you claimed Reagor had better stats the 2 years he didnt play? Of course you have better stats if you are playing lol 

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You’re wrong. Jefferson played outside his Sophomore year. Moved inside to the slot his Junior year. Declared for the draft after that. Those ARE the facts.

yep he played TWO years-TWO

29 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You’re wrong. Jefferson played outside his Sophomore year. Moved inside to the slot his Junior year. Declared for the draft after that. Those ARE the facts.

						Receiving				Rushing				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	LSU					165	2415	14.6	24	6	30	5.0
*2017	LSU	SEC	FR	WR	2	0	0		0	1	4	4.0	0	1	4	4.0	0
*2018	LSU	SEC	SO	WR	13	54	875	16.2	6	5	26	5.2	0	59	901	15.3	6
*2019	LSU	SEC	JR	WR	15	111	1540	13.9	18	0	0		0	111	1540	13.9	18

Yeah like I said he played TWO WHOLE GAMES as a frosh(I said 3 so I lied) THOSE ARE THE FACTS.he played TWO seasons.Of course you get more stats playing 3-4 years

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

						Receiving				Rushing				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	LSU					165	2415	14.6	24	6	30	5.0
*2017	LSU	SEC	FR	WR	2	0	0		0	1	4	4.0	0	1	4	4.0	0
*2018	LSU	SEC	SO	WR	13	54	875	16.2	6	5	26	5.2	0	59	901	15.3	6
*2019	LSU	SEC	JR	WR	15	111	1540	13.9	18	0	0		0	111	1540	13.9	18

Yeah like I said he played TWO WHOLE GAMES as a frosh(I said 3 so I lied) THOSE ARE THE FACTS.he played TWO seasons.Of course you get more stats playing 3-4 years

						Receiving				Rushing				Scrimmage
Year	School	Conf	Class	Pos	G	Rec	Yds	Avg	TD	Att	Yds	Avg	TD	Plays	Yds	Avg	TD
Career	Texas Christian					148	2248	15.2	22	35	324	9.3
*2017	Texas Christian	Big 12	FR	WR	14	33	576	17.5	8	8	65	8.1	0	41	641	15.6	8
*2018	Texas Christian	Big 12	SO	WR	13	72	1061	14.7	9	13	170	13.1	2	85	1231	14.5	11
2019	Texas Christian	Big 12	JR	WR	12	43	611	14.2	5	14	89	6.4	0	57	700	12.3	5

Reagor played 3

OH and BTW JJ surpassed reagors stats in 2 years as opposed to his 3.More yards in 2 years than reagors 3,more TD's in 2 years than reagors 3.

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But you wanted a WR that couldn’t outrun S

SO tell me who the top WR's are.Name the top 10 and then tell me out of all those who ran a 4.27 40.

Coop? Thomas? Evans? pick your top 10,then tell me their 40 times

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But you wanted a WR that couldn’t outrun S

1500 yards and 18TD's he must have outrun quite a few!!!!!

54 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The facts are Jefferson benefited from the best offense in the history of college football and a number one overall draft pick QB. That offense produced stats all over the place. Sure got their OC a nice cushy NFL upgrade also.

yeah there were SOOO many guys to throw too and he STILL got 875 yards OUTSIDE even forgetting his slot stats

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lmao how can he benefit the 2 years he didn't play when you claimed Reagor had better stats the 2 years he didnt play? Of course you have better stats if you are playing lol 

yep he played TWO years-TWO

Reagor and Jefferson both declared after their Junior season. They had exactly the same number of TDs playing offense. But Reagor produced more yards of offense.