4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie is the GM,he's not going to trade a player he picked in round 2. it makes him look worse than he already is 

Sure he would cuz he could spin it as Hurts was a Doug pick and that he and the organization are fully committed to Wentz. 
 

But again if your not at least listening to offers your not doing your job as a GM you don’t have to take the offers for players but you at least have to know what’s going on 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sure he would cuz he could spin it as Hurts was a Doug pick and that he and the organization are fully committed to Wentz. 
 

But again if your not at least listening to offers your not doing your job as a GM you don’t have to take the offers for players but you at least have to know what’s going on 

It would need to be a rather insane offer. The "fully committed" to a QB who led the league in sacks and picks bothers me too much to take that risk.I need to see Wentz perform before I trade Hurts away and BTW it's pretty obvious now the Ped had no say in the Hurts pick

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

to a QB who led the league in sacks and picks bothers me too much to take that risk.I need to see Wentz perfrom before I trade Hurts away

The picks you can put on Wentz not sacks lol that not just on Wentz. As seen with Hurts as well OL played a massive role on those sacks being let up 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The picks you can put on Wentz not sacks lol that not just on Wentz. As seen with Hurts as well OL played a massive role on those sacks being let up 

Hurts threw the ball away no??? Wentz held it and took sacks. Hurts picks were due to his lack of experience, Wentz should have known better,so once again I'm not losing Hurts until I see Wentz hit his numbers. Hurts isn't costing me ZIP, in fact Suds costs me more

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Taking Thomas as a UDFA QB also means Suds hits the bricks, no loss there in my view. Saves a little cap

Actually saves no cap since Suds is a UFA after this season (so he doesn't count against the 2021 cap).  

1 minute ago, time2rock said:

Actually saves no cap since Suds is a UFA after this season (so he doesn't count against the 2021 cap).  

OK technicality if we DONT re-sign him we SAVE money same difference.Put the microscope away

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts threw the ball away no??? Wentz held it and took sacks. Hurts picks were due to his lack of experience, Wentz should have known better,so once again I'm not losing Hurts until I see Wentz hit his numbers. Hurts isn't costing me ZIP, in fact Suds costs me more

Hurts was also sacked 13 times in what 4 1/2 games played.

project that over the course of a 16 game season that’s still 46 sacks he is taking.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Hurts was also sacked 13 times in what 4 1/2 games played.

project that over the course of a 16 game season that’s still 46 sacks he is taking.

LOL a tad different when your rook does it and your "million dollar baby" who should know better does it.You can't expect a rook QB to play like a 5 year pro,you SHOULD expect a 5 year pro to play like a 5 year pro and that didn't happen

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL a tad different when your rook does it and your "million dollar baby" who should know better does it.You can't expect a rook QB to play like a 5 year pro,you SHOULD expect a 5 year pro to play like a 5 year pro and that didn't happen

Not at all if the OL can’t protect you your going to get sacked that simple. There was probably some sacks Wentz could have avoided but he was still going to be sacked a ton regardless 

I mean hell Russell Wilson was sacked 52 times led the nfl in sacks taken is he some bad QB??? 

Hurts still has to get used to the speed of the NFL.That takes time. Not getting that in 4 games. He has an excuse,Wentz does not

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean hell Russell Wilson was sacked 52 times led the nfl in sacks taken is he some bad QB??? 

So at 46 Hurts is a bad QB as well???(that's 6 less) You just proved my point 

Matty ice has been near the top of sacks, Aaron Rodgers, Russ is in the top 5 yearly. 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts still has to get used to the speed of the NFL.That takes time. Not getting that in 4 games. He has an excuse,Wentz does not

So at 46 Hurts is a bad QB as well???

Lmao 😂 I don’t blame sacks solely on the QB your the one trying to make it out Wentz is terrible for being sacked 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Matty ice has been near the top of sacks, Aaron Rodgers, Russ is in the top 5 yearly. 

Lmao 😂 I don’t blame sacks solely on the QB your the one trying to make it out Wentz is terrible for being sacked 

So according to you 46 is a "bad QB" but those others are not? You are making no sense at all.IDK care if you take 85 sacks,if you can come back and win games(which those you mention DO and Wentz did NOT)

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Matty ice has been near the top of sacks, Aaron Rodgers, Russ is in the top 5 yearly. 

Lmao 😂 I don’t blame sacks solely on the QB your the one trying to make it out Wentz is terrible for being sacked 

You bet,he refused to throw the ball away. he should be smarter than that 5 years in 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Matty ice has been near the top of sacks, Aaron Rodgers, Russ is in the top 5 yearly

But these guys come back and win games. That is the bottom line no?

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So according to you 46 is a "bad QB" but those others are not? You are making no sense at all.IDK care if you take 85 sacks,if you can come back and win games(which those you mention DO and Wentz did NOT)

You bet,he refused to throw the ball away. he should be smarter than that 5 years in 

So all those other top QBs that got sacked  should be smarter why are they leading the leagues in sacks then????

Why is Russell at the top yearly, why was Rodgers, matty ice are they all bad QBs then??? It’s there faults they are sacked so much. Just none of them are smart enough to know how to throw the ball away.

By your logic they are all bad because they were sacked so much it’s there faults 

https://247sports.com/ContentGallery/2021-NFL-Mock-Draft-145681526/#145681526_16 This seems accurate to me

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So according to you 46 is a "bad QB" but those others are not? You are making no sense at all.IDK care if you take 85 sacks,if you can come back and win games(which those you mention DO and Wentz did NOT)

This is your logic lmao no mine don’t your the one trying to blame QBs for sacks it’s all there fault Wentz is terrible because he was one of the most sacked QBs so that means Matty ice, Rodgers, Wilson must then in turn also be terrible

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why is Russell at the top yearly, why was Rodgers, matty ice are they all bad QBs then

So Hurts is a bad QB when by your own stats he takes LESS sacks?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Matty ice, Rodgers, Wilson must then in turn also be terrible

They come back and win games, Wentz did not. I have no clue why this fact goes over your head

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So Hurts is a bad QB when by your own stats he takes LESS sacks?

They come back and win games, Wentz did not. I have no clue why this fact goes over your head

You mean the 4-12 falcons yup great job coming back and winning Matt Ryan.

I have no clue how having a bad OL leads to being one of the most sacked QBs goes over your head. 

So then all those QB's O line suck as bad or worse than ours eh?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So then all those QB's O line suck as bad as ours eh?

Those OLs didn’t have a different combination each week. Those OLs didn’t lose 8 guys to injury. 
So sorry if I don’t place all the sacks on our QBs clearly no QB should ever get sacked 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Those OLs didn’t have a different combination each week. Those OLs didn’t lose 8 guys to injury. 
So sorry if I don’t place all the sacks on our QBs clearly no QB should ever get sacked 

yeah thats even MORE pathetic lol. So their O lines must be ALOT worse than ours

Also,those QB's you mentioned didn't lead the league in Picks either

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/nfl-who-thrown-interceptions-2020

So O line aside, this is an AWFUL QB.and once again I am not losing Hurts until I see him make the numbers we pay HUGE money for