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3 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

We need everything and this is a two draft hole we have to climb out of, I want blue chips. BPA’s for once in our lives for two straight drafts please.

We'll get a stud at 6 (I don't think you can F this up), unless we screw up and draft a punter

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I will put it this way. The last Eagles receiver with 1,000 yards was Maclin in 2014 

27 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think we need a linebacker. As far as WR, I would rather see what our young kids can do with better playcalling and qb play. We have a gaping hole at CB, and I think we would be crazy not to trade back and fill that need while picking up an extra third round pick.

Our LBs aren’t good so disagree here Singleton is alright but that it’s Edwards is at best a 2 down guy. 
WR- I tend to agree want to see what our young guys can do 

CB- though I want to address as well think you can make a case for what can these guys do with a coach that aids them. We have seen numerous CBS leave us and find success elsewhere. 
 

At 6 if Parsons is there he is just by far the best player available find it hard to pass on him. 
If he is gone trading back and snagging a CB/WR isn’t a bad alternative. 

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think we need a linebacker. As far as WR, I would rather see what our young kids can do with better playcalling and qb play. We have a gaping hole at CB, and I think we would be crazy not to trade back and fill that need while picking up an extra third round pick.

Sure we need a LB,we always DO because we ignore this all the time. "seeing what our young kids can do " doesn't help us much, especially if we have no QB. Most were PS players,who performed over their heads. I think they are fine as BACKUPS,but once again I am not settling for mediocrity like everyone else seems to be. last 1K WR was Maclin in 2014(THIS should SHOCK YOU!!!), mediocre is not a solution for me. new coach now, give me Smith and lets try to put some damn POINTS on the board. We had to "see what our young kids can do" because we had ZERO options and this is mediocrity.  Reagor could work out,who knows? But our Wr's don't scare anyone and noone game plans for it because face it,we have minimal threats there. I see no reason to trade back and let a Stud get away at any position and while drafts are a crapshoot,you play the best odds of finding an eilte talent and I think a Heisman winner is a pretty good shot at him being successful.it's SAD that we are even drafting 6th. I would rather draft 32nd. Other than Reagor, who we still have no clue about, the rest of our WR's are "average". If we manage to fix Wentz,or trade him or whatever,I want the QB to have a full slate of weaponry on offense. The D always needs fixed,we can help it alot in this draft. Not gonna be dominating,but we can make it better. The key in my view is having an O that can drive down the field and score while taking time off the clock. This will make the D better even as it is because they can't play 40 minutes a game due to lack of offense. Wentz was a freaking turnover machine. I personally want the WR's in place for the next 4 years. I would not trade down from 6, but If I can trade Ertz for more picks I would. I have no clue what Goodwin can do,or even if we renew his covid contract. Fulgham looked ok to me, Ward is ok, those are decent BU's. We have Reagor (I hope he pans out) but we need that other bookend if we are going to make defenses game plan because we have deep threats. We're not going to win games with 8 yard passes. Of course all this hinges on a QB and a decent(doesn't have to be stellar) O line. Get another Basher RB to add to Sanders and Scott. We were rebuilding the offense before Wentz Fd that all up,let's finish the job. Get me a STUD WR,add a RBBC RB(any round doesnt have to be early) maybe grab an O lineman if he is the BPA,  use the rest on defense. This would be my personal plan.I'm sure yours differs 

Press Taylor gone b-bye

37 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Press Taylor gone b-bye

YAY!!!!. Wonder if Wentz wants traded(again) now that his buddy is gone

Oh well, there are 5,000 draft scenarios. I think we covered them all lol. Have zero clue what direction we go in, or how much influence Siri will have, or if Howie remains a dck, so we just have to wait and see what happens. I'm fairly confident it can't get much worse(famous last words)

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Get me a STUD WR, add a RBBC RB(any round doesnt have to be early) maybe grab an O lineman if he is the BPA,  use the rest on defense. This would be my personal plan. 

I would have no problem with drafting a WR at 6. But I would rather see them trade back and grab a corner, since I see that as filling a need while also picking up a free third round pick.

I know people are down on the offense and think it was a talent issue, but I don't agree. I think there were several problems, namely:

1. Our QB play wasn't great. The fact that a second round rookie could come in and immediately get the offense moving much better than it did with Wentz in there shows how bad he was playing.

2. Our offense was extremely young. We had 19 players play more than 25 percent of the snaps. Of those, eight - Hurts, Reagor, Fulgham, Mailata, Herbig, Pryor, Hightower and Driscoll - were either rookies or had no significant starting experience. As a comparison, on defense we had 17 players on defense play at least 25 percent of the snaps. Of those, only Epps, Singleton and Edwards could be considered first-time starters, and Singleton has pro experience from the CFL and Edwards played 11 percent of the snaps last year.

3. Our playcalling was bad. There have been stats posted how our routes took longer to develop than any other team in the league despite having receivers like Watkins and Reagor who showed that they are better with the ball in their hands. It was noted numerous times during the season that we didn't scheme to get them open.

4. We were hampered by injuries, especially on the oline.

Going into next year, we won't be playing nine first-time starters. If we draft a wr at 6, he will likely be the only rookie starter. Our playcalling will be better (I hope.) The QB play will be better (I hope.) We won't have as many oline injuries (I hope.)

So the offense should be much better next year, regardless of what we do at 6.

But the defense isn't going to get better without a major infusion of talent. If anything, it's going to get worse. LB is the least of our worries. Our dline is older. We need young talent there. We have no CB2. Slay is another year older. Our safeties are question marks. There is a pretty good chance Mills won't be back.

To me, it is pretty obvious what we should do. Trade back to get an extra third round pick, grab the best corner out of the top three, and then continue to add talent for the defense. A TE and a RB would be nice, and I think even essential, but the defense needs better players.    

I'm with you jsb. I could understand grabbing Chase or Smith at 6. Would be happier with Farley @ CB.

Know we'll be w/o DJax, prolly Alshon. With Siri's penchant to get the ball out fast, we're not in as bad of shape as peeps are making it out to be.

The notion that we need a complete rebuild is dumb. We have 90% of the pieces, a young pair of tackles, RB, WR (including Marquise Goodwin). Defense, we might need a little help in the secondary, but thats really it.

And when you have a patchwork injured line during 2020 but you keep calling plays that don't develop until 3 seconds, you're going to make your QB look bad. Do it for 12 games, and he starts to lose spirit, mechanics, and going through the progressions. With Siri's quicker "get the ball out and let them YAC" philosophy, Wentz will be fine.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

I would have no problem with drafting a WR at 6. But I would rather see them trade back and grab a corner, since I see that as filling a need while also picking up a free third round pick.

I know people are down on the offense and think it was a talent issue, but I don't agree. I think there were several problems, namely:

1. Our QB play wasn't great. The fact that a second round rookie could come in and immediately get the offense moving much better than it did with Wentz in there shows how bad he was playing.

2. Our offense was extremely young. We had 19 players play more than 25 percent of the snaps. Of those, eight - Hurts, Reagor, Fulgham, Mailata, Herbig, Pryor, Hightower and Driscoll - were either rookies or had no significant starting experience. As a comparison, on defense we had 17 players on defense play at least 25 percent of the snaps. Of those, only Epps, Singleton and Edwards could be considered first-time starters, and Singleton has pro experience from the CFL and Edwards played 11 percent of the snaps last year.

3. Our playcalling was bad. There have been stats posted how our routes took longer to develop than any other team in the league despite having receivers like Watkins and Reagor who showed that they are better with the ball in their hands. It was noted numerous times during the season that we didn't scheme to get them open.

4. We were hampered by injuries, especially on the oline.

Going into next year, we won't be playing nine first-time starters. If we draft a wr at 6, he will likely be the only rookie starter. Our playcalling will be better (I hope.) The QB play will be better (I hope.) We won't have as many oline injuries (I hope.)

So the offense should be much better next year, regardless of what we do at 6.

But the defense isn't going to get better without a major infusion of talent. If anything, it's going to get worse. LB is the least of our worries. Our dline is older. We need young talent there. We have no CB2. Slay is another year older. Our safeties are question marks. There is a pretty good chance Mills won't be back.

To me, it is pretty obvious what we should do. Trade back to get an extra third round pick, grab the best corner out of the top three, and then continue to add talent for the defense. A TE and a RB would be nice, and I think even essential, but the defense needs better players.    

Why not trade some guys for these picks instead of "lowering" your percent of success ratio?

BTW JSB how many DECENT DB's have we lost that play well somewhere else? Why waste a pick if you can't keep/ develop them? Now perhaps that changes with the staff overhaul, that remains to be seen. Was Hurts a wasted pick? Doesn't matter of you have 5 firsts if you blow them. I am NOT avoiding drafting D players (see most of my mocks),but a Heisman WR doesn't come along often and we're going to need someone to pair with Reagor. Why not get the best?. Only O I am adding is a WR and RB late. I would be ok spending the rest on D unless there is a "can't pass him up" guy for the O line. As I said I would have NP trading Ertz for more picks rather than trade back. We don't usually pick this high, so why blow this chance when at 6 it's very difficult to BOTCH it? I can't say we WONT do it, by I would not depending on who is sitting at 6. So we view this differently. NP everyone has an op, none are wrong. We also have to consider this is an *asterisk draft. We didn't get alot of vids this year,so I will go with the Heisman winner who beat out all the QB's and who I saw play all year. Plenty of good CB's and S's in 2,3, but the WR's drop off after mid 2,at least from what my research has shown me. We could even consider trading Barnett or Dillard. I suppose that depends on the new staff. The fact we have not had a 1,000 yard receiver (let's forget about 1,000 yard rushers) since 2014 tells me we NEED offense. So,I would stand at 6, then maybe use some of those 6 picks to move up a little in 2,3 for the D guys we want  

2 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

I'm with you jsb. I could understand grabbing Chase or Smith at 6. Would be happier with Farley @ CB.

Know we'll be w/o DJax, prolly Alshon. With Siri's penchant to get the ball out fast, we're not in as bad of shape as peeps are making it out to be.

Getting the ball out fast to WHO? You need receivers to get the ball to we have Reagor and a few overachieving PS players. Not that they won't improve, I suspect they all will, all fine as BU's but really we need a bookend for Reagor or he will just be DT'd for 60 minutes

Oh well IDk what we do. It's such a mess with holes everywhere

We have so many young WRs as it is i want to see these new coaches develop them.

Can Siri find ways to use Jjaw he seems to like those bigger WRs

Can he get Fulgham back on track playing near his 5 week stretch?

Reagor/Watkins- honestly can we find creative ways to get the ball in these guys hands just explosive players that can be used more then just vert routes 

Hightower- seemed like a good route runner can he add to his frame get stronger.

We can add to this unit but unless we can start to develop guys and use them correctly we will keep ending with mediocre results.

Here are some guys I like.No clue where they go   S-Nasirildeen,LeCounte,Stevens   CB-Campbell,Samuel,Wade,Stokes All these should be round 2,3 although campbell may be a late 1

Also won’t matter who we have at WR if our QBs(whether it Wentz or Hurts) can’t hit open WRs. Our QBs were dreadful last year 

Whooooo Press is gone lol.... Not a real shocker but definitely needed a new QB coach 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Also won’t matter who we have at WR if our QBs(whether it Wentz or Hurts) can’t hit open WRs. Our QBs were dreadful last year 

Nope, but we have to draft on a the assumption we will have a coherent QB. If Wentz still sucks,at least his replacement will have decent weapons

Wonder if we could convince Jim Caldwell to be our QB coach. 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Wonder if we could convince Jim Caldwell to be our QB coach. 

I'm sure Siri has someone in mind. I'm wondering since Press was canned if Wentz wants to be traded(again). Such a wuss lol

Sooooo we officially have the youngest coaching staff in the nfl in regards to HC/OC/DC at an avg. age of 37... Rams are #2 at 38(they are pretty good)

Can we finally get our roster younger as well. #youthmovement 

If Wentz doesn't take to this coaching, doesn't want to battle to lead this team and still wants out, let him redo his contract and let him go. Then it's QB 1st rd.

Hearing whispers of Dak to the Colts lol

16 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

If Wentz doesn't take to this coaching, doesn't want to battle to lead this team and still wants out, let him redo his contract and let him go. Then it's QB 1st rd.

You bet

OK try this mock on for size  1-6 Smith-WR-Bama    2-38-Tyson Campbell or Asante Samuel-CB 3-70- LeCounte-S-Georgia  5-134- Rashad Weaver-Edge-Pitt 5-140- Sadarius Hutcherson-OG- S. Carolina  6-165- Tommy Togai- DT-Ohio St  7-198- Al Blades-CB-Miami(FL)    As most say we're not fixing this thing overnight, but these are some solid guys. This would give us a little POP on offense,shore up our weak secondary, address the aging D line and add a nice OG who can come up. There are 3 UDFA's I would like to have. Caleb Huntley-RB-Ball St-nice way to add a basher/relief RBBC back. He may be drafted,but if he isn't I'll take him. Zac Thomas-QB- App. St and we can tell Suds to "hit the bricks".Matt Bushman-TE-BYU. As a UDFA this guy is under the radar.WOuld be a nice addition especially if we peel Ertz off.  If we need a LB we would have to seek one out in FA/or through a trade for an additional pick. That is the drawback to this mock. I suppose you could also replace my 140 pick with a LB( we need both, so pick your poison). If we go Campbell or even his teammate Stokes at CB and paired them with Lecounte,they have already played together(at Georgia) which would accelerate the transition time to the NFL since they know how each other play(just an added bonus lol).The last pick has lots of ceiling and I feel he is a tad better than the UDFA's later,so IMO nothing wrong with adding another CB to compete for a spot

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