4 hours ago, 1wrangler said:

I think there is one thing a couple of folks on this board embellish and that is being "HOMERS". Yep those rose colored glasses will do that to you! We had so many injuries last year we just couldn't compete but who brought the old men in here to begin with?  It must have been Lynch. LMAO

Lynch is the best... SF about to go on historic run.  Ham called it first.  I can back him up. 

2 hours ago, 1wrangler said:

Lane Johnson missed 4 games. The Eagles won 3 of them. I don't show Brandon Brooks missing any regular season games last year. He missed the playoff game against Seattle which the Eagles lost but he played in the regular season game against Seattle when they lost as well. Until the Eagles figure out a way to beat Russel Wilson it makes no difference to me who is in the game against them. Jones played in 12 games last year but only missed a half of football against the Packers with his hamstring and the Eagles won that game. He had 3 healthy scratches last year and started 4 games. Howard missed 6 games and the Eagles were 4 -2 in the games he missed. The Eagles were 1-1 in the two games backup Ridgeway missed. Looks like the Eagles missed Barnett the most. They lost both games that Barnett was out of the lineup against the Vikings and Cowboys. I can't be bothered to look up the stats on Agholor, Clement and Mills. Agholor has been irrelevant every year of his rookie contract except for one year. I don't even know if Clement will make the roster this year and Mills has been playing out of position for his whole rookie contract.  

Wow...that is a good record missing those players... must have been good backups signed by Lynch. Wish Howie could learn from that.  

59 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mills, Darby, Barnett, Sweat, Semaulo, Howard, Lane, Ertz, Perkins, Jernigan, Ridgeway, Alshon, Ajayi, KGH, Hicks, Jones, Hollins, AG, Maddox, Leblanc, Wentz injuries the last 2 years of guys under 30

Yup though only the old guys getting hurt that was the issue 

Wow...Clement gets no love at all here. To me a big injury in both years with the effect of how Doug used the running game...or lack of usage.  Shouldn't be that big when your #3 RB gets hurt... except for when the other 2 also go down too. 

Homers make me laugh!

58 minutes ago, 1wrangler said:

Homers make me laugh!

Sounds like your the biggest homer just bringing up the real facts not twisting them to fit my agenda 

10 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sounds like your the biggest homer just bringing up the real facts not twisting them to fit my agenda 

Okay, here are the real facts, 2019 record 9-7

Here is the list of players who lost games due to injuries last year: Agholor, Barnett,Bradham, Clement, Darby, Ford, Hill, Howard, Jackson, Malik Jackson, Jeffery, Jernigan, Johnson, Jones, Maddox, Ostman,, LeBlanc, Peters, Ridgeway, Rodgers and Shittu, Sproles and Sudfeld.  23 players in all missed games.

Here is the list of players from the Super Bowl winning season who lost games due to injuries:  Allen, Burton, Cox, Darby, Ertz, Goforth, Graham, Hicks, Jones, Kendricks, Maragos, McLeod, Peters, Pumphrey, Shittu, Sturgis, Sproles, Vaeao, Walker, Watkins, Wisniewski, Wentz, Smallwood. 23 players in all missed games. record 13-3 and Super Bowl Winner.  Now what I extrapolate from this is that you might be a homer if you were bragging about winning a Super Bowl with all the injuries you had that season and even losing your starting QB but in 2019 you are bemoaning your injuries for causing your 9-7 season.

19 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I think an opening game should always be vs division opponent.   You build up for that game... plenty of time to prepare ...etc.   Game 1, start the season with important game.   don;t over think things... it's how you get in trouble in life.    If you aren't prepared.... it's your fault.   Things are even, nobody has an advantage... injuries are no excuse either... I refuse to allow any other NFL team to use that anymore... since it didn't matter for the Eagles... and everything was the GM's fault.   No excuses... play ball.   

As a Philly fan .... game 1 vs the Cowboys..... Mets ... Penguins ... or Celtics would be awesome.   Get the season started with a rivalry and get into it right from the start.   Builds the anticipation even more.  It's what sports is all about.  

Nah...the NBA, NHL and MLB all have a sh17 ton of games. Not the same as the NFL. Teams having been needing it more and more with less real practice time. Give that first game of the season lesser importance.

IDK in my view, the 2017 team was "different". When Wentz went down, the balance of the players ALL upped their game. They got scrapier and more determined. The guys knew they had to make up for the difference between Wentz and Foles. All gave that down deep extra 1% effort. We also got lucky. Giving Brady time to come back on you, is usually a recipe for disaster.Without that strip sack, things could have been different. All the stops were pulled out, all the risks were taken. The Philly special was a thing of beauty, and especially so because these were team BU's and undrafted players that pulled this off. I will never forget that night at the nest. When we gave the pats the ball back with over a minute, the entire packed room stood in total silence, and we were all thinking the same thing "Oh man we will lose this in the end". When the strip sack happened ,the whole place just turned their heads and we looked at each other. Finally a guy gets on a stool and yells "We're gonna WIN THIS" and the party began. Amazing night

On 5/8/2020 at 2:26 AM, cunninghamtheman said:

These rumors of us being in the bidding for Clowney just piss me off. Yes, I’ve always thought he took a late cheap shot on Wentz deliberately. Looked to me like a very gifted athlete dropped his helmet to spear Carson late after he was already down. Complete menace in the move. And I do think Clowney is talented enough to make that decision and make that happen in the fly. The next thing that pisses me off is he hasn’t been all that productive. Definitely feels like an underachiever. The talent is there so....it just feels like he doesn’t care that much about football. Not a great teammate. Isn’t going to put himself on the line for our team. His durability has its question marks. His price isn’t going to be representative of production. And we can’t afford him anyway. The fans hate him. The team seemed to do everything to turn this into Wentz team and then undercut him once this offseason after that fact already(drafting Hurts). Bad for the fans. Bad for the culture. Bad for the city. Bad for the team leader. Bad for the wallet.

Whether this move happens or not, it will tell you more about your GM. Apparently he asked Wentz if he cared if they brought him on board and Wentz said he didn't have a problem with it. Of course what do you think Wentz would say if he didn't want to make waves? I am now looking at both Clowney and Jeffery. One player they are suppose to want to get rid of for team unity sake and the other player tried to murder both Eagles starting QB's in consecutive years and they are contemplating bringing him in. If I was a betting man, I would bet that Wentz sincerely has no problem playing with either one or he does have a problem playing with both. There is no one or the other for me. Human Nature dictates otherwise.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK in my view, the 2017 team was "different". When Wentz went down, the balance of the players ALL upped their game. They got scrapier and more determined. The guys knew they had to make up for the difference between Wentz and Foles. All gave that down deep extra 1% effort. 

Yep, each season speaks for itself. And so does each roster. And who is ultimately in charge of putting each seasons roster together? If you are going to give the man credit for winning a Superbowl with 23 players injured during the course of the year, he also gets the criticism for going 9-7 with 23 players injured last year. His roster in both cases. Just the way I look at things, fan or not, but I come from a generation where the buck stops here. No excuses.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nah...the NBA, NHL and MLB all have a sh17 ton of games. Not the same as the NFL. Teams having been needing it more and more with less real practice time. Give that first game of the season lesser importance.

Nah... start it with importance... because all teams have it even.   You follow.   Imagine week 1 always being divisional game... right off the bat we start with important... that is the difference between football and every other sport... and why it's great.   But of course... you want more playoff teams and more games... so we can get it more like the other 3 sports.  Pretty soon you will get your wish... 18 games with 16 playoff teams... it's coming.  

5 hours ago, 1wrangler said:

Okay, here are the real facts, 2019 record 9-7

Here is the list of players who lost games due to injuries last year: Agholor, Barnett,Bradham, Clement, Darby, Ford, Hill, Howard, Jackson, Malik Jackson, Jeffery, Jernigan, Johnson, Jones, Maddox, Ostman,, LeBlanc, Peters, Ridgeway, Rodgers and Shittu, Sproles and Sudfeld.  23 players in all missed games.

Here is the list of players from the Super Bowl winning season who lost games due to injuries:  Allen, Burton, Cox, Darby, Ertz, Goforth, Graham, Hicks, Jones, Kendricks, Maragos, McLeod, Peters, Pumphrey, Shittu, Sturgis, Sproles, Vaeao, Walker, Watkins, Wisniewski, Wentz, Smallwood. 23 players in all missed games. record 13-3 and Super Bowl Winner.  Now what I extrapolate from this is that you might be a homer if you were bragging about winning a Super Bowl with all the injuries you had that season and even losing your starting QB but in 2019 you are bemoaning your injuries for causing your 9-7 season.

Context of injuries matter.... multiple injuries at the same positions at once matter.    If you don't get that and simply put it aside... it's not very intelligent.   But hey... Burton, Vaeoe, Walker, Watkins, Shittu, Pumphry and whoever Goforth is???   ... absolutely huge injuries....lol    In 2017 ... are 2nd string guys that filled in for the few starters that were missing at times... did great.   We never really had to get guys off the street or go to 4th and 5th string.    If you compare the RB injuries...  2017 .. Sproles, Pumphry and Smallwood.    The #2 RB and numbers 5 and 6 ... The last 2 years we lost RBs that were in the top 3 in the rotation... at the same time.  It's just different.    WRs, none listed in 2017 ... 2019 we lost the top 3, with the top guy playing hurt all year until he finally got seriously injured and was done.   

No disrespect to studs such as Goforth, Vaeo, Walker and Watkins.... but when you get multiple injuries at multiple positions... it's just different.  I'd be curious to see SF play if they lose 4 DL, ... curious to see Dallas if they lose their top 3 WRs?    But yeah.. the GM should know which players are going to miss 12 or more games....lol   

2 hours ago, 1wrangler said:

Yep, each season speaks for itself. And so does each roster. And who is ultimately in charge of putting each seasons roster together? If you are going to give the man credit for winning a Superbowl with 23 players injured during the course of the year, he also gets the criticism for going 9-7 with 23 players injured last year. His roster in both cases. Just the way I look at things, fan or not, but I come from a generation where the buck stops here. No excuses.

Again.. teh actual players matter.... not just the #23.     No disrespect to Mr. Goforth.   

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Context of injuries matter.... multiple injuries at the same positions at once matter.    If you don't get that and simply put it aside... it's not very intelligent.   But hey... Burton, Vaeoe, Walker, Watkins, Shittu, Pumphry and whoever Goforth is???   ... absolutely huge injuries....lol    In 2017 ... are 2nd string guys that filled in for the few starters that were missing at times... did great.   We never really had to get guys off the street or go to 4th and 5th string.    If you compare the RB injuries...  2017 .. Sproles, Pumphry and Smallwood.    The #2 RB and numbers 5 and 6 ... The last 2 years we lost RBs that were in the top 3 in the rotation... at the same time.  It's just different.    WRs, none listed in 2017 ... 2019 we lost the top 3, with the top guy playing hurt all year until he finally got seriously injured and was done.   

No disrespect to studs such as Goforth, Vaeo, Walker and Watkins.... but when you get multiple injuries at multiple positions... it's just different.  I'd be curious to see SF play if they lose 4 DL, ... curious to see Dallas if they lose their top 3 WRs?    But yeah.. the GM should know which players are going to miss 12 or more games....lol   

I stated my case and I am standing by it. 

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22 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2018_injuries.htm
 

Look at 18 as well aren’t the old guys just getting hurt it’s everyone how many of these injuries were over 30 

——Agholor was sucking. We were better without him at that point he was injured. 
——Corey Clement is an undrafted backup. Can’t complain but so much about him.

——-Rudy Ford not much of a big deal he went to IR.

———Darby....just utterly predictable.

——Jernigan and LeBlanc made it back for the end.

—-/Mailata, Ridgeway and Ostman you can’t really complain much about. Like to think they could be good contributors....but it’s an optimistic view point.

—-That leaves you with Howard. 

 ——Then the main injuries that worked us were Sproles, Jackson, Jackson Jeffrey.

If we play Seattle... and we have 2 injuries.... Nate Herbig and Sydney Jones .... but they have one injury.... Russell Wilson.    i'm going to say ... " hey, we have double the injuries... no excuses for Seattle."  Bad job by their GM.     

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

——Agholor was sucking. We were better without him at that point he was injured. 
——Corey Clement is an undrafted backup. Can’t complain but so much about him.

——-Rudy Ford not much of a big deal he went to IR.

———Darby....just utterly predictable.

——Jernigan and LeBlanc made it back for the end.

—-/Mailata, Ridgeway and Ostman you can’t really complain much about. Like to think they could be good contributors....but it’s an optimistic view point.

—-That leaves you with Howard. 

 ——Then the main injuries that worked us were Sproles, Jackson, Jackson Jeffrey.

Was Howard on the Eagles in 2018?   

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Nah... start it with importance... because all teams have it even.   You follow.   Imagine week 1 always being divisional game... right off the bat we start with important... that is the difference between football and every other sport... and why it's great.   But of course... you want more playoff teams and more games... so we can get it more like the other 3 sports.  Pretty soon you will get your wish... 18 games with 16 playoff teams... it's coming.  

I’m just observing padded practices disappear. Got rid of a PS game. NFL has always been sloppy and unpredictable week one. It’s getting nothing but worse. 

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m just observing padded practices disappear. Got rid of a PS game. NFL has always been sloppy and unpredictable week one. It’s getting nothing but worse. 

And maybe it wouldn't be as sloppy if the games were all division????   

43 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

——Agholor was sucking. We were better without him at that point he was injured. 
——Corey Clement is an undrafted backup. Can’t complain but so much about him.

——-Rudy Ford not much of a big deal he went to IR.

———Darby....just utterly predictable.

——Jernigan and LeBlanc made it back for the end.

—-/Mailata, Ridgeway and Ostman you can’t really complain much about. Like to think they could be good contributors....but it’s an optimistic view point.

—-That leaves you with Howard. 

 ——Then the main injuries that worked us were Sproles, Jackson, Jackson Jeffrey.

You mean ridgeway who was playing well, Jerngin who again was still hurt missed time as was Leblanc, Mills, Darby...Point was never when they missed time or if they made it back the pint was wasn’t just old guys getting hurt 

Really to call Sproles a main injury nah do t think so Malik sure when you consider Jernigan also got hurt then so did Ridgeeay missing Malik hurts a lot more when you are on DT 5... Sam with CB when your playing guys you just signed off the street because Jones is hurt, Darby is hurt, Mills is hurt, Leblanc is hurt, Maddox is hurt again not old guys going to be some ripple effects....Again WR is Alshon even considered old by most standards we got him at what 27-30 are prime years for WRs missed time...

My talk was never about who got hurt and the impact but the fact it wasn’t just old guys that missed time lot of young guys missed time 

If you want to call out the medical staff or even calling Howie our for taking guys with injury track records though not sure how many of them had injury concerns when we got them... I could under stand... Bit the sheer cop out that it was because we signed old guys all these youngster got hurt really 

21 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If you want to call out the medical staff or even calling Howie our for taking guys with injury track records though not sure how many of them had injury concerns when we got them... I could under stand... Bit the sheer cop out that it was because we signed old guys all these youngster got hurt really 

If DeSean played 12 games... which one could easily predict he should have been able to play looking at his injury history.     That's 11 more games... wonder if people think that could have made a difference???   I think Detroit was an easy win with any help at all at WR.  We could probably make the case for ATL too... without even looking into any other games.   IDK if one could predict Malik to not play at all???    It doesn't really matter though... it is what it is.  It's 2020 now.