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So right now I got CB round 2 looking at Asante jr with the thinking we stick with a more man coverage approach. 

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Been saying that for yrs GB - except for speed receivers, they're all weapons. Would like another big RB who can shed tackles, not an aging FA who can't play much either. Someone to line up w/ Slay and lines need to be addressed. Siri says he wants to simplify things, get the ball out fast to playmakers and get a big back. Sounds like a good plan, what Howie does, well that's usually a different story. Know I work better and faster when I have the tools I need, not making due with makeshift stuff - although I'm pretty good at MacGyvering!

Have to drive through the heart of the storm tomorrow, later.

MJK, safe trip!

Not bad here. Only 3"-4" so far. 

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So right now I got CB round 2 looking at Asante jr with the thinking we stick with a more man coverage approach. 

Samuel was my pick at CB in 2 also. Just think a tight S would be more useful. I'm sure we can get CB's later. Check out Moehrig and adding Cox in 3 would square up our middle field defense nicely

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Been saying that for yrs GB - except for speed receivers, they're all weapons. Would like another big RB who can shed tackles, not an aging FA who can't play much either. Someone to line up w/ Slay and lines need to be addressed. Siri says he wants to simplify things, get the ball out fast to playmakers and get a big back. Sounds like a good plan, what Howie does, well that's usually a different story. Know I work better and faster when I have the tools I need, not making due with makeshift stuff - although I'm pretty good at MacGyvering!

Have to drive through the heart of the storm tomorrow, later.

Getting the ball out fast just SCREAMS TE to me (what Jjaw was supposedly for)  Pitts is a stud. Paired with Geodert we'd have that Gronk/Henandez types, and being up in NE, you know the damage those 2 caused.I also like 93's idea of snagging Marlon  Mack. Even as a 1-2 year stop gap like we did with Blount/Ajayi and our new coach already knows what he can do.

I'll take Pitts,then the Thorpe award winner all day, then add Jabril Cox(LB LSU).I found nice CB's WAY later that would be fine. Check out Bynum(Cal) and Blades(Canes). guy owns the middle of the field. Another guy that may not last until. round 2 however

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10 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

If it were my pick and this cat is still there I'd be taking LB - Parsons at #6

You’d be happy with that? I’m all about getting a stud. But I just don’t see that. I have higher expectations at 6

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

1) who cares? His salary is OFF the books(finally)    2) Right, so lets save more money down the line and get some decent QB prospects in here, we have 57 WR's in camp to sort through, but somehow we are limited to 3 QB's 3) Noone said he would be jobless 4) Not sending a message, I am planning ahead. Don't see an issue with that 5) "Bradford is our QB" right until the day we traded him"

You are doing EXACTLY what the Eagles did with Dream Team and post Superbowl.  You are focusing on one position and getting backups or insurance policy...while letting actual obvious holes remain.  Then you complain about the LBs etc.   We need starters, you don't pay a franchise QB,  then use TWO early picks for the same position and pass up 2 players that could help....then say, we gave our QB and team every chance to succeed.   

The only way you draft a QB early on a bad team, is if you know you need one.  Wentz would be out now and you decide Hurts is a backup.  Otherwise get one of the guys that you mocked. This draft needs to hit with multiple players. 

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's business, not personal. Get the competition going,best mans starts. IDK why QB has to be a "coddled" position. We make other positions compete and play to see who starts,why is a QB just "handed the job"?

Because one guy needs to max out his ability with reps,  one guy needs to be the leader.  One guys plays.  The other positions are multiple so you need more guys there.  3 QBs does nothing to help during a game when only one plays.

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You’d be happy with that? I’m all about getting a stud. But I just don’t see that. I have higher expectations at 6

You don't think Parsons is a stud? Please keep in mind that I'm not familiar with the college prospects. Haven't had time to watch college ball the past 2 seasons. It's an empty feeling not being up to date. I enjoy the draft a lot more when I know who's who. I'll be able to get somewhat informed if I can find time to catch the combine. 

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just going by what "they"said. Joe if you have 3 QB's on rook deals you are NOT paying out 34 million a year like Wentz. That buys you 2-3 years of NOT paying out a huge amount to a QB. Eventually you will sign/pay the best guy, meantime you have 34 extra million a year to spend on whatever FA you need. Once you sign the "best guy" your search should continue for the next guy. That the problem, we sign a guy long term,then STOP for that duration,we should NOT,we should always keep looking for his replacement

You should do what they did in 2016 and 2017... build a team to win a title and stop overthinking everything like they did before and since.  Get all your starters then get backups.  

If they truly self evaluate themselves... this should be the thing they see they did differently to win as compared to the nonsense they did before and after.  

10 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

The Wentz situation is strange. We took this young, religious, humble kid from a nothing school. He does well, says and does all the right things, he gets paid early. Then there's smoke in the locker room - players and coaches. We coddle him, give him buddy coaches and he whithers from competition? Thought you competed in football just as you do in life. Wentz is young, does he really think he's earned the type of recognition guys who have been in the league and earned respect have? Those guys have fought, competed, never backed down from a fight and do it ye in and yr out. They understand the business, that new players are there to compete for their jobs. They didn't get to where they are by whining and stamping their feet. Wentz needs a good dose of reality. He can still become the leader of this team, but only if he earns it - this and every year.

Why would he want to lead any team that he has been surrounded with the last 2 seasons?  

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are so off base. The problem is the owner and GM trumping the coaches .....leading to the coddled franchise QB. Didn’t give him squat? They gave him everything. His buddy as a coach. He went above the coaches heads straight to talk to the FO and owner. He got a mega contract...really paid. Not sure what else a team can do for one player?

You pay me and put all my friends around me..   ain't gonna help me win or perform.  They helped him in 2016 -17.   Jesus couldn't win playing QB fir this team.   That I agree is the GMs fault.  Players win...you want to coddle a player ...do what Tampa did for Brady.  Be nice if our team did that for a change. I want to see if my QB can fail when things are good around him.  The one year it was.... 2 QBs succeeded... one was MVP level...the other figured it out in time to win.   Let's " coddle" that way instead of money and the other BS.

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You are doing EXACTLY what the Eagles did with Dream Team and post Superbowl.  You are focusing on one position and getting backups or insurance policy...while letting actual obvious holes remain.  Then you complain about the LBs etc.   We need starters, you don't pay a franchise QB,  then use TWO early picks for the same position and pass up 2 players that could help....then say, we gave our QB and team every chance to succeed.   

The only way you draft a QB early on a bad team, is if you know you need one.  Wentz would be out now and you decide Hurts is a backup.  Otherwise get one of the guys that you mocked. This draft needs to hit with multiple players. 

SO you are GUARANTEEING Wentz will play lights out. I am NOT drafting his BU, I and drafting his replacement. You should Always draft QB's replacement. Have too many GREAT QB's? Then you trade one off. I don't see whats so hard about this lol. If I wanted a BU QB I would take UDFA's and bring them up to less than STAR quality.If my QB blows donkey Ds,it wont matter who I get, Wentz put the big question mark over his head,noone else did that. I can trade a nice/decent coherent QB for about ANY other position I want. I don't want to wait for him to sucks TWP years in a row,before I decide it's time to move on because now you already lost a year getting them up to speed. Hurts should be better since he got a taste of what starting is like,so why should I stop bringing competiton in? How many CB's do we have in camp WR? 6,7,8 of each? Why should I limit myself to 3 QB's? get 6 in here like we do WR's and let's sort through them. And this is NOTHING like the :dream team" we PAID for those in FA,you DONT pay for rook QB's .If It's me,I'm drafting a QB every 2-3 years

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Because one guy needs to max out his ability with reps,  one guy needs to be the leader.  One guys plays.  The other positions are multiple so you need more guys there.  3 QBs does nothing to help during a game when only one plays.

Except that ONE DIDNT play, the million dollar man. How bad would have been to put Suds in instead of Hurts because we DIDNT have hurts?.If Wentz got hurt week 1,you think we're playoff bound with Suds?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO you are GUARANTEEING Wentz will play lights out. I am NOT drafting his BU, I and drafting his replacement. You should Always draft QB's replacement. Have too many GREAT QB's? Then you trade one off. I don't see whats so hard about this lol. If I wanted a BU QB I would take UDFA's and bring them up to less than STAR quality.If my QB blows donkey Ds,it wont matter who I get, Wentz put the big question mark over his head,noone else did that. I can trade a nice/decent coherent QB for about ANY other position I want. I don't want to wait for him to sucks TWP years in a row,before I decide it's time to move on because now you already lost a year getting them up to speed. Hurts should be better since he got a taste of what starting is like,so why should I stop bringing competiton in? How many CB's do we have in camp WR? 6,7,8 of each? Why should I limit myself to 3 QB's? get 6 in here like we do WR's and let's sort through them. And this is NOTHING like the :dream team" we PAID for those in FA,you DONT pay for rook QB's .If It's me,I'm drafting a QB every 2-3 years

Then you trade Wentz.  How you like Green Bay vs Tampa. . One drafted the replacement and is going to be watching next week.   Hurts is here, he was the " replacement"  you drafted...you don't draft the replacement for the replacement... and allow multiple holes elsewhere.  You can draft a QB next year, give that guy a better team to step into .

20 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

You don't think Parsons is a stud? Please keep in mind that I'm not familiar with the college prospects. Haven't had time to watch college ball the past 2 seasons. It's an empty feeling not being up to date. I enjoy the draft a lot more when I know who's who. I'll be able to get somewhat informed if I can find time to catch the combine. 

I would say he is a stud.I just want to finish the "get weapons on offense" we started.So we have a stud TE or a Stud LB or a STUD WR,fact is we will get a stud. and in my view the most impact would be to get the QB a pass catcher on the order of a Kelce. he just is SOOOO mushy better than TE2. I will take my LB (COX) in 3, he will still make an impact,but I doubt a round 3 TE would

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Except that ONE DIDNT play, the million dollar man. How bad would have been to put Suds in instead of Hurts because we DIDNT have hurts?.If Wentz got hurt week 1,you think we're playoff bound with Suds?

If Joe Montana and Tom Brady biologically combined their genes and created the ultimate genetically modified QB ... I don't think we win a playoff game.     Our team stinks! 

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You should do what they did in 2016 and 2017... build a team to win a title and stop overthinking everything like they did before and since.  Get all your starters then get backups.  

If they truly self evaluate themselves... this should be the thing they see they did differently to win as compared to the nonsense they did before and after.  

We did have starters,they all got hurt and right now I have ZERO clue who my starting QB is. Even Siri is not committing to Wentz

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Then you trade Wentz.  How you like Green Bay vs Tampa. . One drafted the replacement and is going to be watching next week.   Hurts is here, he was the " replacement"  you drafted...you don't draft the replacement for the replacement... and allow multiple holes elsewhere.  You can draft a QB next year, give that guy a better team to step into .

Once again,if you have 2 guys that suck,you are postponing getting a good prospective QB in here by waiting. Thats what we always do,wait until someone becomes a liability we pay instead of having his planned replacement already here. JP ring a bell??? Any C"s in here that are OG's for when Kelce hangs it up? bad planning like that is why we  have to hit panic mode in FA,because we didnt plan ahead

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29 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

You don't think Parsons is a stud? Please keep in mind that I'm not familiar with the college prospects. Haven't had time to watch college ball the past 2 seasons. It's an empty feeling not being up to date. I enjoy the draft a lot more when I know who's who. I'll be able to get somewhat informed if I can find time to catch the combine. 

I’m not really against him...but at 6! My big board says gotta take a pass catcher 

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

If Joe Montana and Tom Brady biologically combined their genes and created the ultimate genetically modified QB ... I don't think we win a playoff game.     Our team stinks! 

Won't matter because you have no BU for that entity either. Just the other guy can suck for 100k a year while the other sucks at 34 million. If they both suck then gimme the suck mguy for 100k and I will spend the 34 million somewhere else

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3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Once again,if you have 2 guys that suck,you are postponing getting a good prospective QB in here by waiting. Thats what we always do,wait until someone becomes a liability we pay instead of having his planned replacement already here. JP ring a bell??? Any C"s in here that are OG's for when Kelce hangs it up?

That’s not fair. They drafted Dillard in the first. But the idea of the pipeline of training guys to be ready is a great idea. 

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We did have starters,they all got hurt and right now I have ZERO clue who my starting QB is. Even Siri is not committing to Wentz

I agree... I prefer to trade Wentz to Indy... then commit to Hurts or the draft pick.  2 guys is enough one way or the other. Getting 3 while the team has 348 other needs doesn't work for me.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s not fair. They drafted Dillard in the first. But the idea of the pipeline of training guys to be ready is a great idea. 

Hammer,it's something never achieved, it's fluid,but it should always be the goal you work for. Someone said we should be a QB factory,but noone wants to draft QB's so that was a load of hooey(aka lies)

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