1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They hired a puppet for a HC

Aren't all coaches "puppets" to the machine?

56 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

My 2 cents is Jeff and Howie feel it will be easier to control a new HC and have him obey their commands than it would be to control an established HC.

I don't see this at all. I think they want to find the guy who can win, so they can sit back and have Maragaritas on the beach in Honolulu, pat each other on the back and say "well done" If they wanted a yes man, they woulda hired Duce. When we were winning who was here(hint his last name starts with "R") So it would be nice "payback" to have success with his understudy, because we had Ped under contract and Reich was poached. BTW when Reich was poached what was his position here? OH OC just like the guy we hired? lmao

Why I want an O player at pick 6----- Despite Wentz's "antics", the fact our O line was "iffy at best" and the fact we had PS WR's playing the skill positions, in most games we lost last season by a few points (say 10 or less) MANY times. SO I look at it like this. If our QB(whomever that may be) plays only 25% better and we add a serious O threat(Pitts or Smith) we can win those games we lost last year. SO, I want that piece to get over that hump,then add to the D in round 2,3. Pick up Mack in FA. I know looking at 4-11-1 sucks, but with a few added points per game we could easily have gone 10-6

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

but with a few added points per game we could easily have gone 10-6

I think this team had the talent to be over .500, but the coaching staff made a cascading amount of errors that sunk out season.

First, our defensive system makes our corners look bad. Every corner struggles here, regardless of who it is. Darius Slay had a pff rating of 62, which was lower than two of the people he replaced - Ronald Darby and Sidney Jones - and about the same as the third, Rasul Douglas. So changing our system should help our secondary, especially if we can add some talent. Maybe Maddox is actually a good corner who has been stuck in a bad system?

Second, we played the wrong linebackers for the first part of the season. Singleton and Edwards should have been the day 1 starters.

Third, we failed with the oline rotation. Our lineup week one should have been Mailata-Seumalo-Kelce-Herbig-Driscoll. Lane should have been allowed to heal fully (he is apparently in good shape now, which is a huge relief.) Peters shouldn't have been brought back. Opeta, Juriga and Pryor should have been the backups. This was a tough spot for the coaches, but we rushed Lane back, and badly misjudged how good Mailata and Herbig were.

Fourth, our scheme didn't match our talent. We didn't scheme our receivers open and had them run routes that played to the strength of the defense. That, combined with Ertz's regression and injuries to Jeffery and DJax put us in a bad position. Hopefully this year we utilize our talent in a more reasonable manner.

The bottom line is that you can't make this many mistakes and compete in the NFL, which is why our season ended up like it did. But we have taken a lot of positive steps. We have changed the coaching staff, so hopefully our schemes will fit our players rather than trying to get players to fit our scheme. We should add a dynamic player at #6. Our oline should be light years better, and the depth chart should be more clearly defined. Hopefully this will get Wentz back on track. 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2929649-raiders-jon-gruden-accused-of-tampering-by-gm-after-richard-sherman-comments

Gruden just doesn’t seem to have any situational awareness. You can’t blatantly tamper on air.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

I think this team had the talent to be over .500, but the coaching staff made a cascading amount of errors that sunk out season.

First, our defensive system makes our corners look bad. Every corner struggles here, regardless of who it is. Darius Slay had a pff rating of 62, which was lower than two of the people he replaced - Ronald Darby and Sidney Jones - and about the same as the third, Rasul Douglas. So changing our system should help our secondary, especially if we can add some talent. Maybe Maddox is actually a good corner who has been stuck in a bad system?

Second, we played the wrong linebackers for the first part of the season. Singleton and Edwards should have been the day 1 starters.

Third, we failed with the oline rotation. Our lineup week one should have been Mailata-Seumalo-Kelce-Herbig-Driscoll. Lane should have been allowed to heal fully (he is apparently in good shape now, which is a huge relief.) Peters shouldn't have been brought back. Opeta, Juriga and Pryor should have been the backups. This was a tough spot for the coaches, but we rushed Lane back, and badly misjudged how good Mailata and Herbig were.

Fourth, our scheme didn't match our talent. We didn't scheme our receivers open and had them run routes that played to the strength of the defense. That, combined with Ertz's regression and injuries to Jeffery and DJax put us in a bad position. Hopefully this year we utilize our talent in a more reasonable manner.

The bottom line is that you can't make this many mistakes and compete in the NFL, which is why our season ended up like it did. But we have taken a lot of positive steps. We have changed the coaching staff, so hopefully our schemes will fit our players rather than trying to get players to fit our scheme. We should add a dynamic player at #6. Our oline should be light years better, and the depth chart should be more clearly defined. Hopefully this will get Wentz back on track. 

By over .500 I’ll take that as this team could have achieved a 9-7 record in the worst division. Not good. But I feel your blame us very misplaced on the coaches. Like you said ...if the coaching was great...maybe they could have been 9-7. So something else was very wrong. You blame the coaches for Lanes misdiagnosis? That’s a medical issue. They rushed him back? He was injured the season before. How much longer should they have waited?  He clearly wasn’t going to just heal naturally. I just don’t see the Peters situation as a coaching fault. Lurie’s best bud was going to start once we brought him back. Wasn’t a coach going to stop that. So you ‘re barking up the wrong tree there. Definitely wasn’t the coaches fault Dillard and Brooks were hurt before the season began.

  How is it the coaches fault that he was setup with Alshon and DJax as his top weapons receiving weapons? That is after the top receiver for Wentz has been Ertz. I’m sure it was all the coaches fault about the Ertz contract situation plummeting his production. So the offense had to rely on inexperienced players at WR. Somehow you don’t think that was a factor in the simplification of what was asked of them?

 Rosie controlled the 53. So it was him that didn’t have Singleton on the squad ALL last season. I thought he clearly deserved a shot by his play that last Preseason. But he was put on the Practice Squad. So it more feels like the theme here is the coaches trying to overcome the FO.

 But sure... nothing but positive steps by removing our only SB winning coach. Making sure to hire a Yes Man coach. Everything is beautiful going ahead with the non football guys running the show even more. No! The destruction came from upstairs. Stupid guarantee on Alshon for absolutely no reason. Stupid to hang on to....let alone bring back Peters. Stupid to cut your coach’s balls off by letting the QB come whining upstairs behind his back. All setup by backloading contracts so you are playing with one arm tied behind your back even to begin. It was the FO that forced the coaching structure on the team this season to even begin with. Fail! All fails. Blaming coaches? Also fail.

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

I think this team had the talent to be over .500, but the coaching staff made a cascading amount of errors that sunk out season.

First, our defensive system makes our corners look bad. Every corner struggles here, regardless of who it is. Darius Slay had a pff rating of 62, which was lower than two of the people he replaced - Ronald Darby and Sidney Jones - and about the same as the third, Rasul Douglas. So changing our system should help our secondary, especially if we can add some talent. Maybe Maddox is actually a good corner who has been stuck in a bad system?

Second, we played the wrong linebackers for the first part of the season. Singleton and Edwards should have been the day 1 starters.

Third, we failed with the oline rotation. Our lineup week one should have been Mailata-Seumalo-Kelce-Herbig-Driscoll. Lane should have been allowed to heal fully (he is apparently in good shape now, which is a huge relief.) Peters shouldn't have been brought back. Opeta, Juriga and Pryor should have been the backups. This was a tough spot for the coaches, but we rushed Lane back, and badly misjudged how good Mailata and Herbig were.

Fourth, our scheme didn't match our talent. We didn't scheme our receivers open and had them run routes that played to the strength of the defense. That, combined with Ertz's regression and injuries to Jeffery and DJax put us in a bad position. Hopefully this year we utilize our talent in a more reasonable manner.

The bottom line is that you can't make this many mistakes and compete in the NFL, which is why our season ended up like it did. But we have taken a lot of positive steps. We have changed the coaching staff, so hopefully our schemes will fit our players rather than trying to get players to fit our scheme. We should add a dynamic player at #6. Our oline should be light years better, and the depth chart should be more clearly defined. Hopefully this will get Wentz back on track. 

Amen bro

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

By over .500 I’ll take that as this team could have achieved a 9-7 record in the worst division. Not good. But I feel your blame us very misplaced on the coaches. Like you said ...if the coaching was great...maybe they could have been 9-7. So something else was very wrong. You blame the coaches for Lanes misdiagnosis? That’s a medical issue. They rushed him back? He was injured the season before. How much longer should they have waited?  He clearly wasn’t going to just heal naturally. I just don’t see the Peters situation as a coaching fault. Lurie’s best bud was going to start once we brought him back. Wasn’t a coach going to stop that. So you ‘re barking up the wrong tree there. Definitely wasn’t the coaches fault Dillard and Brooks were hurt before the season began.

  How is it the coaches fault that he was setup with Alshon and DJax as his top weapons receiving weapons? That is after the top receiver for Wentz has been Ertz. I’m sure it was all the coaches fault about the Ertz contract situation plummeting his production. So the offense had to rely on inexperienced players at WR. Somehow you don’t think that was a factor in the simplification of what was asked of them?

 Rosie controlled the 53. So it was him that didn’t have Singleton on the squad ALL last season. I thought he clearly deserved a shot by his play that last Preseason. But he was put on the Practice Squad. So it more feels like the theme here is the coaches trying to overcome the FO.

 But sure... nothing but positive steps by removing our only SB winning coach. Making sure to hire a Yes Man coach. Everything is beautiful going ahead with the non football guys running the show even more. No! The destruction came from upstairs. Stupid guarantee on Alshon for absolutely no reason. Stupid to hang on to....let alone bring back Peters. Stupid to cut your coach’s balls off by letting the QB come whining upstairs behind his back. All setup by backloading contracts so you are playing with one arm tied behind your back even to begin. It was the FO that forced the coaching structure on the team this season to even begin with. Fail! All fails. Blaming coaches? Also fail.

IDK Ham was Reich a "yes man"? If he was WHY did the Colts take him from us? B y the same token Reich held the same position as Siri 

A capped out team that you think could have achieved over .500. Coaching is your answer to those problems?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK Ham was Reich a "yes man"? If he was WHY did the Colts take him from us? B y the same token Reich held the same position as Siri 

Reich has done what? Won one playoff game against dysfunctional Houston. Oh yeah....every team’s dream! He’s a miracle man. Or probably....a great fit as an OC.....where he won a SB.

Maybe over .500 talent...that isn’t great. Being capped out to be that....really not great. Old to be that...sucks.

LMAo so everyone is a yes man everywhere? Amaziing anyone gets hired

Not having three starting Oline the whole season. Not having your top two receivers the whole season. That alone takes your maybe achieving 9-7 team down to 7-9...6-10 from the get go. Just seems like expectations were out of whack for many fans. 

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Reich has done what? Won one playoff game against dysfunctional Houston. Oh yeah....every team’s dream! He’s a miracle man. Or probably....a great fit as an OC.....where he won a SB.

So why did we tank AFTER Reich left?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAo so everyone is a yes man everywhere? Amaziing anyone gets hired

Is AR a yes man? You think Arians is a yes man?

Then Luck just up and QUIT!!!!

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why did we tank AFTER Reich left?

We won just as many playoff games as he has

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is AR a yes man? You think Arians is a yes man?

I have no idea how their FO works

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We won just as many playoff games as he has

Yeah when he was HERE lol

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is AR a yes man? You think Arians is a yes man?

But you already know Siri IS a yes man? amazing

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have no idea how their FO works

Yeah when he was HERE lol

We beat the Bears. Did you forget? We would have beat the Hawks the next season also if it wasn’t for the dirty hit. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We beat the Bears. Did you forget? We would have beat the Hawks the next season also if it wasn’t for the dirty hit. 

On a lucky fingertip,yeah the coach had that planned in the game strategy lol

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

But you already know Siri IS a yes man? amazing

Very obvious. So many ways I wouldn’t know where to begin. If you can’t see what’s going on in Lurie 🌎 by now how could I convince you otherwise? 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Very obvious. So many ways I wouldn’t know where to begin. If you can’t see what’s going on in Lurie 🌎 by now how could I convince you otherwise? 

So then Reich was also a yes man and anyone we ever hire will all be "yes men" So why hire anyone, just let Howie be HC

19 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't see this at all. I think they want to find the guy who can win, so they can sit back and have Maragaritas on the beach in Honolulu, pat each other on the back and say "well done" If they wanted a yes man, they woulda hired Duce. When we were winning who was here(hint his last name starts with "R") So it would be nice "payback" to have success with his understudy, because we had Ped under contract and Reich was poached. BTW when Reich was poached what was his position here? OH OC just like the guy we hired? lmao

We were winning with a coach last name of R....Andy Reid obviously. How you think Siri is the anti yes man....and Duce would be the puppet is beyond me. Watch Duce speak sometime. You butchered his character there. The guy would have been that stern coach. Something Rosie couldn’t have for Wentz around. Duce would have been running the show. So clearly that couldn’t happen.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

On a lucky fingertip,yeah the coach had that planned in the game strategy lol

The Bears were the better team

Got us in position that the terrible kicking game of the Bears became the deciding factor. Fantastic coaching!