2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We were winning with a coach last name of R....Andy Reid obviously. How you think Siri is the anti yes man....and Duce would be the puppet is beyond me. Watch Duce speak sometime. You butchered his character there. The guy would have been that stern coach. Something Rosie couldn’t have for Wentz around. Duce would have been running the show. So clearly that couldn’t happen.

LOL ,after Reich left this team has deteriorated every single year

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Bears were the better team

Who said?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LOL ,after Reich left this team has deteriorated every single year

 

Our big free agent signings of DJax and Malik Jackson were clearly home runs that Reich would have guided to the SB you’re saying?

Drafting of JJAW Reich takes to the Pro Bowl I’m sure.

Reich wasn’t the only offensive mind lost. DeFelippo might have been bigger. He was the one that coached Wentz hard last.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Our big free agent signings of DJax and Malik Jackson were clearly home runs that Reich would have guided to the SB you’re saying?

Drafting of JJAW Reich takes to the Pro Bowl I’m sure.

Reich was a yes man just like you say siri is. I doubt Reich signed those guys lol

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Reich wasn’t the only offensive mind lost. DeFelippo might have been bigger. He was the one that coached Wentz hard last.

Idk it;s like forgetting how to ride a bike after being away a year. How can a QB disgress THAT much no matter WHO his coach is? I may stop riding a bike for a year and I may be rusty for 5 minutes,but you can bet I didn't forget how to ride it

IDK Ham, I still say the best thing we could do is hire a REAL GM, but we never will

So now really go back through things and put together why the team has gone downhill. To me it’s obviously mostly because what’s happening upstairs. The same guys that are here. To create that SB we did it on the back of future money. Unfortunately the piper must be paid at some point. He was GM of the year for our SB victory. Grade out as terrible since though, no? 

Hanging on to aging vets. Killing the cap space with non production. Forcing the coach to fire his staff. Forcing on non welcome voices in their stead. All killing any chance a HC could have at power. Your directly shoving different points of view in the QB’s ear. You also encourage the QB to come whining up to the GMand owner when that player doesn’t like what the HC is saying.

  But you think it was all the HC?

Results: old overpaid 4-11-1 team that’s totally capped out.

But I can see where you think that’s all because of coaching.

56 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

By over .500 I’ll take that as this team could have achieved a 9-7 record in the worst division. Not good. But I feel your blame us very misplaced on the coaches. Like you said ...if the coaching was great...maybe they could have been 9-7. So something else was very wrong. You blame the coaches for Lanes misdiagnosis? That’s a medical issue. They rushed him back? He was injured the season before. How much longer should they have waited?  He clearly wasn’t going to just heal naturally. I just don’t see the Peters situation as a coaching fault. Lurie’s best bud was going to start once we brought him back. Wasn’t a coach going to stop that. So you ‘re barking up the wrong tree there. Definitely wasn’t the coaches fault Dillard and Brooks were hurt before the season began.

  How is it the coaches fault that he was setup with Alshon and DJax as his top weapons receiving weapons? That is after the top receiver for Wentz has been Ertz. I’m sure it was all the coaches fault about the Ertz contract situation plummeting his production. So the offense had to rely on inexperienced players at WR. Somehow you don’t think that was a factor in the simplification of what was asked of them?

 Rosie controlled the 53. So it was him that didn’t have Singleton on the squad ALL last season. I thought he clearly deserved a shot by his play that last Preseason. But he was put on the Practice Squad. So it more feels like the theme here is the coaches trying to overcome the FO.

 But sure... nothing but positive steps by removing our only SB winning coach. Making sure to hire a Yes Man coach. Everything is beautiful going ahead with the non football guys running the show even more. No! The destruction came from upstairs. Stupid guarantee on Alshon for absolutely no reason. Stupid to hang on to....let alone bring back Peters. Stupid to cut your coach’s balls off by letting the QB come whining upstairs behind his back. All setup by backloading contracts so you are playing with one arm tied behind your back even to begin. It was the FO that forced the coaching structure on the team this season to even begin with. Fail! All fails. Blaming coaches? Also fail.

Another thing that made no sense to me was the Marty hire 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Results: old overpaid 4-11-1 team that’s totally capped out.

But I can see where you think that’s all because of coaching.

If it wasn’t for Pederson we’d be playing this weekend I’m sure. That coach just screwed it all up!

9 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Another thing that made no sense to me was the Marty hire 

Makes total sense. It was a power struggle. Pedey wanted guys he trusted so he could run things. Rosie was going to force his guys down the teams throat to subvert the HC power. Because....you know....Rosie being master with a calculator...and Lurie having film success...clearly makes them the wisest football minds around!

Clearly worked out for a career season for our QB. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

By over .500 I’ll take that as this team could have achieved a 9-7 record in the worst division. Not good.

I can't say what their record would have been. But I don't see a reason to cap it at 9 wins.

But I feel your blame us very misplaced on the coaches.

Howie deserves blame, and I am not doing any backflips that he is still here, but you have to play the hand you are dealt.

Like you said ...if the coaching was great...maybe they could have been 9-7. So something else was very wrong. You blame the coaches for Lanes misdiagnosis? That’s a medical issue. They rushed him back? He was injured the season before. How much longer should they have waited?  He clearly wasn’t going to just heal naturally.

This has been contradicted by reporting that he was told to wait a few more weeks before playing. The coaches should have kept him out. I put the blame on them.

I just don’t see the Peters situation as a coaching fault. Lurie’s best bud was going to start once we brought him back. Wasn’t a coach going to stop that. So you ‘re barking up the wrong tree there. Definitely wasn’t the coaches fault Dillard and Brooks were hurt before the season began.

It is crystal clear that the coaching staff didn't think Mailata was ready. That is a mistake that is on them.  

How is it the coaches fault that he was setup with Alshon and DJax as his top weapons receiving weapons?

Other teams have had great success with rookie receivers. Reagor and JJAW ran decidedly different routes in college than they were asked to run in this offense, and many people have commented that the team did nothing to scheme to their strengths. I don't accept the "we just have bad receivers" argument when every receiver looks bad in our offense.

That is after the top receiver for Wentz has been Ertz. I’m sure it was all the coaches fault about the Ertz contract situation plummeting his production.

There's a place you can put players who are struggling. It's called the bench.

So the offense had to rely on inexperienced players at WR. Somehow you don’t think that was a factor in the simplification of what was asked of them?

I do know that nothing was done to make their jobs any easy from a scheme standpoint, and it's pretty easy to see that from the tape. 

 Rosie controlled the 53. So it was him that didn’t have Singleton on the squad ALL last season. I thought he clearly deserved a shot by his play that last Preseason. But he was put on the Practice Squad. So it more feels like the theme here is the coaches trying to overcome the FO.

Fort was on the 53 and he never played. Schwartz didn't want to play Singleton. I can't blame Howie for this.

 But sure... nothing but positive steps by removing our only SB winning coach. Making sure to hire a Yes Man coach. Everything is beautiful going ahead with the non football guys running the show even more.

No one said everything is beautiful. I think it is good Schwartz is gone since I think he made a ton of mistakes as a coach both in terms of his scheme and the depth chart. I think Pederson should have stayed and been allowed to have greater control of his staff. I am not at all excited about a lot of the new hires. But this is what we have, so get used to it.

No! The destruction came from upstairs. Stupid guarantee on Alshon for absolutely no reason. Stupid to hang on to....let alone bring back Peters. Stupid to cut your coach’s balls off by letting the QB come whining upstairs behind his back. All setup by backloading contracts so you are playing with one arm tied behind your back even to begin. It was the FO that forced the coaching structure on the team this season to even begin with. Fail! All fails. Blaming coaches? Also fail.

I am not excusing mistakes made by the front office. I would have fired Howie if I owned the team. The last few drafts have been a disaster.  But he's not going anywhere, so it is what it is. But blaming the FO for every one of the team's problems is ridiculous. There were a ton of mistakes made by the coaching staff. And I think one thing that was lacking last year was accountability. Pederson took little accountability. Schwartz took little accountability. Wentz took little accountability. Roseman apparently did enough to keep his job. Two of the other three are out the door, and Wentz might be as well. My only point is that the team does have the talent to be a playoff contender, and that bad decisions by the coaching staff make our situation seem worse than it is. Every front office makes mistakes in the draft and in handing out bad contracts. But not every coach starts Gerry over Singleton and constantly calls vertical routes when their qb is getting killed. 

 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So now really go back through things and put together why the team has gone downhill. To me it’s obviously mostly because what’s happening upstairs. The same guys that are here. To create that SB we did it on the back of future money. Unfortunately the piper must be paid at some point. He was GM of the year for our SB victory. Grade out as terrible since though, no? 

SO, it's hopeless. Maybe we can become Squeeler fans

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

To me it’s obviously mostly because what’s happening upstairs.

Yeah, I am TOTALLY convinced Howie calls down and says do NOT execute these plays!!!! Or "lets go for it on 4th and 3" on our own 30!!!! Or " if you see a wide open receiver,I want you to miss him by 6 yards minimum"

9 wins was the dream scenario

Other teams having success with rookie receivers isn’t the same as having bum vet receivers that are all injured and relying completely on inexperienced receivers. All inexperienced WR limits an offensive playbook. Them being of the more developmental players hampering that even more.

Wasn’t that the key word from the scouts on our WRs we drafted....more developmental than capped out developmentally. More potential than NFL ready. Maybe not as bad as our third round LB. But consistently along those lines.

I like Hightower, Reagor and Watkins. Ready to take over the NFL week one with the Zoom only offseason...wasn’t ever going to happen.

Of coarse Reagor got hurt in the preseason...and then again at the beginning of the season. Was it game two?

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Of coarse Reagor got hurt in the preseason...and then again at the beginning of the season. Was it game two?

This is why we need 57 WR's because we can't keep 3 on the field

But how do we know what Pederson was calling? Have to go through the whole season to see all what happened. It’s been confirmed Wentz was just killing plays for no reason other than dislike. The QB had audible capabilities also. So hard to drop the ax on any playcaller in that situation.

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t that the key word from the scouts on our WRs we drafted....more developmental than capped out developmentally. More potential than NFL ready. Maybe not as bad as our third round LB. But consistently along those lines.

Well,you should know how long I have preached about "pipelines". Once you have those you are never really low on WR's. They will have varying degrees of experience,but NONE are inexperienced except for your draftees.I think WR and RB should be "pipelines" and everyone should get a chance to play at SOME point in the season. garbage time snaps > than any practice snaps. In practice you only go against who WE have,that causes lack of experience when faced with someone with different skills. Other than the last game with Duds in there,did we see any RB's play in garbage time? We couldn't at WR because we didn't have any more lol 

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But how do we know what Pederson was calling? Have to go through the whole season to see all what happened. It’s been confirmed Wentz was just killing plays for no reason other than dislike. The QB had audible capabilities also. So hard to drop the ax on any playcaller in that situation.

Yeah,for me I don't need a QB like that. The plays calls should be such that the QB agrees with them,although there are times the QB is on the field and the coach is not and has a "feel". Audibles should be used sparingly. If the QB calls one and it WORKS,the coach needs to pick up on that and say "ok my QB is on to something" We need to have that communication/trust. IDK if Wentz's ego is up to that