2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But when you get new furniture from IKEA you still have to put it together

Yep, but when it's done I have  whole new room!!!

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Always our "standard" How has that worked out? Maybe let the kids run this show, it can't get any worse. Loved our "vet WR's we paid huge money for and although coaches don't play,it's those same LOSING principles that keep us at .500. I'm old I love old school football. But that why we are OLD and it's time to stop replicating the past. Anyone know the definition of stupidity? So let's STOP doing it. We have a fresh start here. There WILL BE MISTAKES MADE, but maybe from this we get a different view as to how this team works. So REBUILD,let the mistakes happen YEAR ONE and lets grow from that (as my daughter aptly pointed out) We gave Ped passes for 2 years because he was "new" yet NOW we demand perfection day one that has not even arrived yet? Seems hypocritical

You were talking about a pipeline. Best part of the pipeline is the young kids learning the ropes from a vet.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yep, but when it's done I have  whole new room!!!

But the family grew up and left the house before you got any other roomsdone

56 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

This is ideal scenario.   If you want Howie gone.

Think about it.

1. You make all these moves trading up to get your franchise QB.

2. He delivers huge when you surround him with a good group of players.

3. You pay him

4. You surround him with crap,  he gets you to the playoffs, franchise record in yards, first to throw for 4000k without a 500 yard WR.

5. You put a worse group around him the year later 

6 You draft a QB round 2

7. You trade him, giving another team a franchise QB, but you take on the financial burden, making him a bargain.

8. You draft another QB at the top of the draft.

When neither of your QBs pan out, and the one you had, paid, then traded kicks ass elsewhere...  combined with the fact that you are the only GM in league history to hire 3 different coaches... lol.     Oh Mr. Lurie... you could make a movie out of this, a comedy, and you could play yourself.  Lol.

True,I'm wondering if Howie has nude pics of Lurie at a FL massage parlor. I don't understand this,like why we can't have a GM FOOTBALL guy 

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Teddy Bridgewater, Garrapolo, Fitzpatrick, Winston....heck the backup in LA Wofford(?) Darnold, Alex Smith....I’m sure I’m forgetting somebody. There are options out there. Garrapolo likes porn stars and has injury issues but....Wentz has injury issues and is an uncoachable Primma Donna that players don’t want to follow. 

FItz, bash him all you want, but he gets put in ridiculous positions and always plays well. Past his prime now, but always wondered what he would have been had a team kept him awhile. Wofford as a BU interests me, even if he is QB3

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What are the options? I don’t want to force a QB pick. It feels like Wilson is going before our pick. Do we want to actually spill all our ammo to move up and get him? I don’t think so. We have an early second round pick. Seems like somebody would fall out of the first. But I’d maybe be willing to trade back into the end of the first for Trask. Get him for five years under his college OC. I really have no problem going with Hurts. If he sucks then we should be in good shape to get a QB next draft. I’m not making some freak out move because of Wentz.

Agreed. What I would like to see is what we can get for Ertz. if I can snag Pitts and Trask in round 1, you bet I pull that trigger. Here's a  better scenario- So here is my question.Of course the Jets would want to do this. Trade Wentz and Ertz to the Jets for their 2? We could get Fields and Pitts in round 1 lol Personally I would make this deal,but that's just me. By dangling Ertz in their faces with Wentz, instead of them taking Fields and nothing else,they may trade to get both. Now we'd have Fields,Hurts,Pitts. I know everyone is touting Wilson,but Fields is better in my view. Either would be fine, but Fields has played the MUCH better teams. Thoughts? if I could trade wentz and Ertz for the jets 2 pick and a round 4, I do that all day.

The messed up move would be a Wentz for Tua trade

I’m not taking an Ohio St QB at two. Just disaster. Also you’re dreaming to think Ertz and Wentz gets us the second overall. I’d take a Darnold for Wentz trade though.

Actually....I’m not taking an Ohio St QB in the first round. Just can’t do it.

• Round 1, 1st overall
• Round 1, 26th overall (from Seattle)
• Round 2, 33rd overall
• Round 3, 65th overall
• Round 3, 90th overall (from Seattle)
• Round 4, 97th overall
• Round 5, 129th overall
• Round 5, 132nd overall (from New York)
• Round 7, 218th overall (from Seattle)

Jets picks Obviously before they tanked(by winning)l for the 2 pick,but close enough

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not taking an Ohio St QB at two. Just disaster. Also you’re dreaming to think Ertz and Wentz gets us the second overall. I’d take a Darnold for Wentz trade though.

But Stafford gets 2 firsts? and without Ertz? I dont want Darnold at all

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not taking an Ohio St QB at two. Just disaster. Also you’re dreaming to think Ertz and Wentz gets us the second overall. I’d take a Darnold for Wentz trade though.

I said I would be fine with Wilson if you READ the post

Darnold could be pretty good

"We don't take OSU QB's","we don't draft LB's" "we rarely draft CB's". Maybe all these are the problem??????

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Darnold could be pretty good

Just trading our problem(Wentz) for their problem. See no advantage to it. We may as well keep Wentz. if they did Darnold for Ertz I would do that,if I thought Hurts was my #1 which at this point I can't say

Oh well,tired of all the scenarios. Doesn't matter what we think, but if I know this FO they will have most of us doing the annual SMH

https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/14/the-history-of-ohio-state-quarterbacks-in-the-nfl/

31 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You were talking about a pipeline. Best part of the pipeline is the young kids learning the ropes from a vet.

Define "vet" Guys like JJ didn't perform year 1 without a vet? Nope,he stepped right in and put up the numbers,but of course that can't happen here. What is you definition of Veteran? Is Hurts now a veteran?

Go ahead and be the GM that tried to keep a job bucking this trend. One did become a punter....it wasn’t all terrible.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/14/the-history-of-ohio-state-quarterbacks-in-the-nfl/

yes I know,I can read. So let's judge everyone by the past. So how is it that OSU is annually one of the top teams?  Obviously he has a coach who can coach him

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Define "vet" Guys like JJ didn't perform year 1 without a vet? Nope,he stepped right in and put up the numbers,but of course that can't happen here. What is you definition of Veteran? Is Hurts now a veteran?

He did have Thielen next to him.

If we want a QB  here's another guy to look at Mac Jones 

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

yes I know,I can read. So let's judge everyone by the past. So how is it that OSU is annually one of the top teams?  Obviously he has a coach who can coach him

Oh lord you want me to get into all this about Ohio St.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He did have Thielen next to him.

And we had Djax and Alshon in the locker room. Did they teach them anything? So far that is a NOPE

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

If we want a QB  here's another guy to look at Mac Jones 

Got issues with him also. He checks some boxes. But I worry about his arm. Also he was sitting back there with a bunch of time. Great receiver, great RB....massive Oline....bunch of red flags there. Second round pick? Maybe there.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh lord you want me to get into all this about Ohio St.

SO if "everyone knows" OSU QB's stink,why do they rank him in the top 5??? Maybe they are all stupid? Why not put him in round 3 where he belongs?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Got issues with him also. He checks some boxes. But I worry about his arm. Also he was sitting back there with a bunch of time. Great receiver, great RB....massive Oline....bunch of red flags there. Second round pick? Maybe there.

Well he threw to 2/3 WR's that will go first,but he must suck too lol